Fed up with Religions Yet?

[Praxius]

And Naziism was Pagan, not Christian.

Nice spin on the facts.

Nazism and the whole deal during Hitler's rule was to make a whole new Christianity with omissions in the bible that related to Judaism.... Replacing those with Nordic tales and mythologies, for one, Jesus wasn't Jewish, he was Nordic, etc.

But nice attempt to try and distance Christianity from Nazism.... Speaking of fails.

 

[Colpy]

Funny... One of the main reasons for WWII starting was the attack on Jews being the problem (religion)

There was also the whole Afghanistan/Iraq/911 crap based on Islam vs. Bush's "Crusade against the Evil Doers"

Look up Crusade in the dictionary.
"often Crusade Any of the military expeditions undertaken by European Christians in the 11th, 12th, and 13th centuries to recover the Holy Land from the Muslims."

or

"A holy war undertaken with papal sanction."

Kill rates between Hitler and Stalin?

Maybe you need to brush up on your history and learn a bit more about their backgrounds & why they had such kill rates.

Rwandan Genocide


Hitler's religious views:


Clearly you don't know much about the history that you speak of. :roll:

Noooo....you don't know much about history.

The Germans invaded Poland in September of 1939......that set off World War Two. The policy of Final Solution for the Jews did not even exist until 1941.

Stalin killed many, many more people....he was an atheist.

Naziism was pagan.......OF COURSE Hitler claimed Christianity, Germany was a Christian country. Are you going to take the man at his word?? The symbolism, the mysticism, the glorification of the super race, all pagan views.....as well:

"The Fuhrer is deeply religous, though completely anti-Christian. He views Christianity as a symptom of decay. Rightly so. It is a branch of the Jewish race... Both [Judaism and Christianity] have no point of contact to the animal element, and thus, in the end, they will be destroyed."


Goebbels, Nazi Minister of Propaganda





"...under the leadership of Rosenberg, Bormann and Himmler, who were backed by Hitler, the Nazi regime intended eventually to destroy Christianity in Germany, if it could, and substitute the old paganism of the early tribal Germanic gods and the new paganism of the Nazi extremists. As Bormann, one of the men closest to Hitler, said publicly in 1941, 'National Socialism and Christianity are irreconcilable.'

William L.Shirer in The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich



As for the Crusades....you need to go back 1,000 years??? Then Islam was relatively enlightened........


The tables have flipped. Big Time.







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[PoliticalNick]

Noooo....you don't know much about history.

The Germans invaded Poland in September of 1939......that set off World War Two. The policy of Final Solution for the Jews did not even exist until 1941.

Stalin killed many, many more people....he was an atheist.

Naziism was pagan.......OF COURSE Hitler claimed Christianity, Germany was a Christian country. Are you going to take the man at his word?? The symbolism, the mysticism, the glorification of the super race, all pagan views.....as well:

"The Fuhrer is deeply religous, though completely anti-Christian. He views Christianity as a symptom of decay. Rightly so. It is a branch of the Jewish race... Both [Judaism and Christianity] have no point of contact to the animal element, and thus, in the end, they will be destroyed."


Goebbels, Nazi Minister of Propaganda





"...under the leadership of Rosenberg, Bormann and Himmler, who were backed by Hitler, the Nazi regime intended eventually to destroy Christianity in Germany, if it could, and substitute the old paganism of the early tribal Germanic gods and the new paganism of the Nazi extremists. As Bormann, one of the men closest to Hitler, said publicly in 1941, 'National Socialism and Christianity are irreconcilable.'

William L.Shirer in The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich



As for the Crusades....you need to go back 1,000 years??? Then Islam was relatively enlightened........


The tables have flipped. Big Time.







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you can post all of this crap you want. I still don't see Hitler, Himler, Goebells et al holding some ritualistic orgy with pentagrams and goats blood and such.

 

[TenPenny]

I believe in this being but have no desire to go out andkill anyone. As a matter of fact, unlike the majority of atheists I know, I follow Christs teachings and the commandment that says thou shalt not kill.

Why would an atheist follow Christ's teachings? That's illogical to the extreme.

As for not killing, I know lots of atheists who don't kill, and I know several Catholics who have had abortions. Did you have a point?

 

[JLM]

Why would an atheist follow Christ's teachings? That's illogical to the extreme.

A lot of Christ's teachings are just plain common sense.

 

[TenPenny]

Nice in practice & in a perfect world... and you can tell religious extremists this all you want, but Reality proves that this doesn't work most times.

You calling them a backwards, stone-aged, ignorant nut bag who should keep their temper in check won't stop them from dragging you from the back of their pick-up down a dirt road, or taking a knife to your neck & filleting you.

And you agree that if they take a knife to your neck and fillet you, it's your own fault, right?

A lot of Christ's teachings are just plain common sense.

Why would someone follow the teachings of a person they don't believe existed? Is that common sense?

 

[JLM]

Why would someone follow the teachings of a person they don't believe existed? Is that common sense?

By coincidence? Did Christ teach anything that no one else has taught?

 

[PoliticalNick]

By coincidence? Did Christ teach anything that no one else has taught?

Not really! He kept all the good secrets, like walking on water and feeding 1000's with a loaf and a fish, to himself. Selfish bastard! :lol:

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Catholic official worried about Israel attacks
Catholic official worried about Israel attacks



Well, looks like all the major religions are getting their fair share of intolerance, hatred and violence.

You have Christians in Canada spray painting swastikas on synagogues, you have christians purposely trashing the beliefs of Muslims knowing exactly how they'd react, Muslims going on the war path to make examples out of the infidels, and we have the Jews attacking and burning christian churches and the sort.....

But they're all religions of peace they say.... With their own versions of what peace is.

If they're all left with their own devices long enough with little control, everybody will be screwed.... But that's what they all want anyways... One big Holy World War III to figure out which religion has the biggest balls to show off to their version of the same God they all worship, ala Judgement Day / Rapture.

What would life be without God / Religion?

Well we wouldn't have to deal with all this crap in the world, that's for sure.

All these religious groups who all think they know best & they have it right, which justifies them in using their religion to attack the other religions.... When in reality, they're all a bunch of crack pots dragging humanity down from progression & unity until we're right back to where we came from in the stone ages so we can do it all over again.

Heathen.

 

[Goober]

Let's also keep in mind that the majority of racial attacks and discrimination are usually based on a premise that those being attacked are a lesser human being than the attacker.

That the race of the attacker is the "Pure" race or "Superior"

And where do they derive this mentality from?[/i]

Just remember that the creator Loves you.

 

[gerryh]

Why would an atheist follow Christ's teachings? That's illogical to the extreme.

As for not killing, I know lots of atheists who don't kill, and I know several Catholics who have had abortions. Did you have a point?

I'm done. Dense or purposely obtuse, I'm tired of the bullshyte.

 

[JLM]

Let's also keep in mind that the majority of racial attacks and discrimination are usually based on a premise that those being attacked are a lesser human being than the attacker.

That the race of the attacker is the "Pure" race or "Superior"

And where do they derive this mentality from?

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BUT "The meek shall inherit the earth"........................so who gets the last laugh? :lol:

 

[Goober]

Why would an atheist follow Christ's teachings? That's illogical to the extreme.

As for not killing, I know lots of atheists who don't kill, and I know several Catholics who have had abortions. Did you have a point?

When it come down to it look upon his teaching as a Philosophy- one point he mentioned over and over again was caring for the poor.

I wonder how many well known Philosophers have taken certain religious teachings and incorporated those into their own philosophy.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

Why would an atheist follow Christ's teachings? That's illogical to the extreme.

I think you might have mis-parsed gerryh's sentence a bit, but more to the point, a lot of the things Jesus is reported as having said make good sense as a proper way to behave, and to that extent I'd have to say that I follow them too, but it's not a matter of following his teachings as such. A lot of other thinkers have said similar things, the ethical franchise isn't exclusive to him.

 

[Goober]

I think you might have mis-parsed gerryh's sentence a bit, but more to the point, a lot of the things Jesus is reported as having said make good sense as a proper way to behave, and to that extent I'd have to say that I follow them too, but it's not a matter of following his teachings as such. A lot of other thinkers have said similar things, the ethical franchise isn't exclusive to him.

So some of the 10 Commandments would also qualify.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Taylor_(philosopher)

 

[Colpy]

you can post all of this crap you want. I still don't see Hitler, Himler, Goebells et al holding some ritualistic orgy with pentagrams and goats blood and such.

In other words, your mind's made up, and you would prefer I not confuse you with the facts

 

[Goober]

you can post all of this crap you want. I still don't see Hitler, Himler, Goebells et al holding some ritualistic orgy with pentagrams and goats blood and such.

Well if the 3rd Reich had survived they would indeed have had rituals- And you can be assured they would not be sitting around a campfire singing What a friend we have in Jesus.

 

[JLM]

Well if the 3rd Reich had survived they would indeed have had rituals- And you can be assured they would not be sitting around a campfire singing What a friend we have in Jesus.

No, it's a good thing those ck skers are gone.

 

[Goober]

No, it's a good thing those ck skers are gone.

But they are still around- The Nazi movement is alive and well in many European countries. Same as in Canada and the US- Aryan Nation for one example.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

But they are still around- .

Yeah, it seems you can't kill an idea, no matter how bad it is. Really though, the problem with communism, Nazism, fascism, etc., isn't that they're irreligious, or critical of religion, but that they're too much like religion. They're thoroughly dogmatic, don't allow criticism, often give rise to personality cults that look a lot like religious hero worship in the Jim Jones style, and they often have writings, like Mao's Little Red Book, Hitler's Mein Kampf, Marx's Das Kapital, and so on, that achieve a status similar to scripture. The excesses of such extremism are not due to an absence of belief, they're racial, political, and nationalist dogma take to lunatic levels. Extremism in all forms plays to the same weaknesses in human nature, it's not so much an absence of religion as an attempt to supplant it with a different set of ill-founded beliefs.