This summer may see first ice-free North Pole

Kakato

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You are a fukkin hero; no question.!!




Send $25,967,550.29 immediately, and I'll return the ice,.

Gonna have to buy another freezer to hold the goddam stuff so hurry TF up!!

Damn I hates cats ass trophys.:pain10:

Whoa mule!!

I'm a hero because I told Tonn. to go look at a map?

Ok,whatever,works for me.
Good to see he has a fanboi behind him though.

How much money should we give to stop this catastrophe?
Enough for Tonn. and friends to make a living.
This is what this all about.

Follow the money and you will always find someone fear mongering with their hand out for more taxpayers hard earned dollars.

Sigh,
 

BaalsTears

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Less access,you can only drill when it is frozen.Theres no roads in the Arctic longer then 110 kliks that are not ice roads.

Longest all weather road in Nunavut(yes Tonn.that is the arctic) is the one from baker lake to the meadowbank gold mine owned by agnico eagle.

I have over 30 youtube vids of this road when I was maintaining it and building it.

Canada can use offshore oil drilling platforms year round. America invented the technology. We'll license it to the Canadians.
 

Locutus

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Are you retarded?



You best check a map retard.


I know you kids are having a slap fight and such but really...name-calling already? :lol:

Man, before ya know it the dads, moms and girlfriends could be introduced. Even the dig bicks.
 

DaSleeper

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I know you kids are having a slap fight and such but really...name-calling already? :lol:

Man, before ya know it the dads, moms and girlfriends could be introduced. Even the dig bicks.
To be fair......somebody's been walking around with a chip on his shoulder for a while now....:roll:
I even followed his posts, not to stalk him but because he used to post nice photographs......
It get's childish when it comes down to ...."You can't be my friend if you're his friend" or "You have to agree with me all the time".
Outside this forum, I have friend "A" that can't stand friend "B"....I regularly have coffee with both...(separately of course)....but neither of them has ever asked me, to not associate with the other.......
 

Kakato

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To be fair......somebody's been walking around with a chip on his shoulder for a while now....:roll:
I even followed his posts, not to stalk him but because he used to post nice photographs......
It get's childish when it comes down to ...."You can't be my friend if you're his friend" or "You have to agree with me all the time".
Outside this forum, I have friend "A" that can't stand friend "B"....I regularly have coffee with both...(separately of course)....but neither of them has ever asked me, to not associate with the other.......

They follow me,not the other way around.
 

JLM

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To be fair......somebody's been walking around with a chip on his shoulder for a while now....:roll:
I even followed his posts, not to stalk him but because he used to post nice photographs......
It get's childish when it comes down to ...."You can't be my friend if you're his friend" or "You have to agree with me all the time".
Outside this forum, I have friend "A" that can't stand friend "B"....I regularly have coffee with both...(separately of course)....but neither of them has ever asked me, to not associate with the other.......

It's in the genes, DaSleeper, from prehistoric times when even the most intelligent human beings under the right conditions revert back to acting like morons. It's a built in "protection" mode! :lol:
 

darkbeaver

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what does this neat picture mean?, I found it on the interweb, I like the colours, it said kitchen wall paper
 

CDNBear

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At any rate....back to the topic,everythings normal in the arctic,I get that from the Inuit I lived with,they have no agenda and we chat everyday.
Wrong...

Representatives from Nunavut Tunngavik, Kitikmeot Inuit Association, Kivalliq Inuit
Association, Qikiqtani Inuit Association, Inuit Tapirasat of Canada, Nunavut Planning
Commission, Nunavut Impact Review Board, Department of Indian and Northern Development
and Government of Nunavut also participated in the conference.

· Winters are getting shorter, summers are getting longer.

· We are losing the ice in our glaciers and fiords. Permafrost is melting. We see
vegetation growing where ice used to be.

· The sun’s rays are increasing, Inuit need stronger suntan lotion.

· We now see birds and wildlife that we have never seen here before. Ravens are
everywhere, Snow Geese are too numerous.

· Heavier winds can be dangerous, be cautious. Because of Global Warming we could
become subject to catastrophes like hurricanes.

· Caribou meat tastes different now and there are concerns about contaminants and
diseases. We send samples out to labs but never get results back. Caribou hides are
thinner.

· More Inuit are dying from cancers, including skin cancers. We have to find out if this is
from mining or contaminants or from climate change.

· Fall ice forms later and may not be safe to travel on until Christmas

· If trends continue, Hudson Bay (and other areas) may never freeze over. The impact on
wildlife will be tremendous.

· Inuit have to be prepared for the impacts of Global Warming.

· Water levels are getting lower

· Isostatic rebounding

· The floe edge is receding faster

· More ships are traveling through the Northwest Passage, due to the lower ice coverage in
recent years.

From the 'peeps' that live there...

http://www.tunngavik.com/files/2011/03/elders.pdf

Enough for Tonn. and friends to make a living.
This is what this all about.

Follow the money and you will always find someone fear mongering with their hand out for more taxpayers hard earned dollars.

Sigh,
How dare you slander the Inuit Elders.

Geeze, not that long ago you were singing their praises, now you denigrate them, call them liars and thieves?

You should be ashamed.
 

DaSleeper

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Wrong...

Representatives from Nunavut Tunngavik, Kitikmeot Inuit Association, Kivalliq Inuit
Association, Qikiqtani Inuit Association, Inuit Tapirasat of Canada, Nunavut Planning
Commission, Nunavut Impact Review Board, Department of Indian and Northern Development
and Government of Nunavut also participated in the conference.

· Winters are getting shorter, summers are getting longer.

· We are losing the ice in our glaciers and fiords. Permafrost is melting. We see
vegetation growing where ice used to be.

· The sun’s rays are increasing, Inuit need stronger suntan lotion.

· We now see birds and wildlife that we have never seen here before. Ravens are
everywhere, Snow Geese are too numerous.

· Heavier winds can be dangerous, be cautious. Because of Global Warming we could
become subject to catastrophes like hurricanes.

· Caribou meat tastes different now and there are concerns about contaminants and
diseases. We send samples out to labs but never get results back. Caribou hides are
thinner.

· More Inuit are dying from cancers, including skin cancers. We have to find out if this is
from mining or contaminants or from climate change.

· Fall ice forms later and may not be safe to travel on until Christmas

· If trends continue, Hudson Bay (and other areas) may never freeze over. The impact on
wildlife will be tremendous.

· Inuit have to be prepared for the impacts of Global Warming.

· Water levels are getting lower

· Isostatic rebounding

· The floe edge is receding faster

· More ships are traveling through the Northwest Passage, due to the lower ice coverage in
recent years.

From the 'peeps' that live there...

http://www.tunngavik.com/files/2011/03/elders.pdf

How dare you slander the Inuit Elders.

Geeze, not that long ago you were singing their praises, now you denigrate them, call them liars and thieves?

You should be ashamed.
I'm still not convinced that this climate change is man made, to the degree that the "Global warming crowd" is making it out to be.
It could just as well be part of the natural evolutionary cycle.
I'm all for cleaning the air we breathe, but I don't want people to starve, in order to do it :smile:
 

CDNBear

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I'm still not convinced that this climate change is man made, to the degree that the "Global warming crowd" is making it out to be.
I agree.

It could just as well be part of the natural evolutionary cycle.
Again, agreed.

I'm all for cleaning the air we breathe, but I don't want people to starve, in order to do it :smile:
Same here.

I'd like to see serious effort made to eradicate all pollutants, and clean up the pollution that is already plaguing us.

But I won't sit idly by and allow someone to completely slander the good Elders of Nunavut, while he promotes a delusional image of the Arctic.
 

L Gilbert

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At any rate....back to the topic,everythings normal in the arctic,I get that from the Inuit I lived with,they have no agenda and we chat everyday.
Perhaps he should stray out of his home for a look at the real world.

http://www.nationtalk.ca/modules/news/print.php?storyid=17430

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/inuit-hunter-takes-climate-change-message-to-durban-conference/article4180093/

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/arts/film/new-documentary-recounts-bizarre-climate-changes-seen-by-inuit-elders/article1215305/

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/05/070515-inuit-arctic.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2003/dec/11/weather.climatechange

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5557634

I'm still not convinced that this climate change is man made, to the degree that the "Global warming crowd" is making it out to be.
Me either, but I'm not idiotic enough to say we haven't added significantly to it.
It could just as well be part of the natural evolutionary cycle.
I have no doubt, but I'm also convinced human activities have changed the natural course.
I'm all for cleaning the air we breathe, but I don't want people to starve, in order to do it :smile:
Ditto.

But I won't sit idly by and allow someone to completely slander the good Elders of Nunavut, while he promotes a delusional image of the Arctic.
Ditto. I don't really care much what he says, but when I see him spew BS, I'm gonna post that it is BS and with evidence, not anecdote.
 

CDNBear

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Ditto. I don't really care much what he says, but when I see him spew BS, I'm gonna post that it is BS and with evidence, not anecdote.
Nothing says evidence, like the testimony of Inuit Elders.

And given how many claims he's made about being one with the Inuit, and how we should listen to the people who live there...

I'm rather surprised how he would turn on not only the Inuit, but their revered and honoured Elders.

Shameful.
 

L Gilbert

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Nothing says evidence, like the testimony of Inuit Elders.
Yep.

And given how many claims he's made about being one with the Inuit, and how we should listen to the people who live there...
I'm thinking he's been listening to them with his mouth fully engaged at warp speed. IOW, mouth open - ears shut.

I'm rather surprised how he would turn on not only the Inuit, but their revered and honoured Elders.

Shameful.
Quite.
 

bunnyhug

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I'm still not convinced that this climate change is man made, to the degree that the "Global warming crowd" is making it out to be.
It could just as well be part of the natural evolutionary cycle.
I'm all for cleaning the air we breathe, but I don't want people to starve, in order to do it :smile:


Clearly the Earth’s climate is changing. Here are the facts:
  • Average global temperatures have risen about 0.5°C in the past century.
  • Glaciers have melted and retreated dramatically.
  • Ecosystems around the world are being altered.
Here are some of the dire warnings:
The world has already entered a state of dangerous climate change. If the current pace of change continues, a catastrophic sea level rise of 13 feet could occur in this century.
Recent studies suggest climate change is rapidly leading to genetic impacts. Tiny shifts in average temperature are effecting genetic changes in living organisms.
Increases in hurricane intensity are due to humanity’s greenhouse gas emissions. Scientists calculate that two-thirds of the rise in sea temperatures is due to human emissions.
Siberia is melting. Vast tracts of Russian tundra, frozen for tens of thousands of years, are starting to thaw. Some experts say the process is taking place so fast, they can only attribute it to the effects of global warming.
The amount of Arctic sea ice is shrinking not only in the summer but in the winter as well, linked directly to global warming. In 2005 and 2006, the extent of winter ice was about 6% smaller than the average amount over the past 26 years. This is much faster than the previously observed long-term decrease of 1.5% to 2% per decade.
But, this is not new news. These changes started 18,000 years ago as the earth emerged from the Ice Age. Glaciers have alternately retreated and advanced as Earth has warmed and cooled, in cycles spanning hundreds, thousands, and millions of years.
Historical data from ocean sediments and ice cores indicate warm interglacial periods of 15,000 to 20,000 years separate each major ice age. We currently are in an interglacial period, and are due (some say overdue) for the next 100,000-year Ice Age.
There are many sources for the million-year history of the variations of temperature. Perhaps our human ego makes us think we are the primary cause and we can control nature and stop the changes. Over the past centuries, data indicates the Earth is indeed warming, but most of the warming (about 95%) is due to natural causes and beyond our control.
Global warming should continue, perhaps as high as medieval times. Then, there will be a sharp drop, to a small “ice age,” which will take about another 600 years. Perhaps at that time, human-generated global warming may even have a positive effect.