Not of a single one of those are facts. Tell me why your view on the world is very child like.
Jewish MP: Israel acting like Nazis in Gaza
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I consider Iran to be a Theocracy... a version of democracy skewed by religion..
I consider the US to be a Plutocracy... another version of democracy. skewed by money
But neither of these systems are truly democratic. Under the Harper Conservatives, Canada has become more plutocratic... which I think is a bad direction..
The belligerents on both sides commit war crimes. But I challenge Colpy's belief that the Israelis are better to Palestinians than the other way around. Israeli war criminals kill far more innocent Palestinians than the other way around. Its not that the Palestinian war criminals are kinder than the Israeli war criminals. They just don't have the means. I'm sure if the Palestinian war criminals were as well armed as the Israeli war criminals, they'd be just as cruel.
BTW, I disagree with the OP. Only the Nazis truly acted like Nazis. The Israeli war criminals have their unique brand of oppression and injustice and so do the Palestinian war criminals.
IN case anyone is picking up this thread now, I'll recap my main point. When the MP referenced in the OP made his statement about the Israelis acting like Nazis, the Israeli war criminals had killed about 1500 people in three weeks, most of which were innocent civilians. Colpy estimated about a 1000 innocent civilians, which sounded about right... and he said a low rate of innocent civilian deaths (only a 1000 in three weeks to 500 militants) proved the Israelis attacked Gaza with an "amazing amount of restraint and care." So I challenged him to comment regarding the even lower rate of civilian deaths in the Syria uprising (I estimate about 10,000 over 70 weeks - a number I admit I pulled out of my ass, but its probably ball park-ish).
Israel crushing Gaza: 333 innocent civilians a week (about 33% belligerent to 67% innocent civilians)
Syria crushing a revolt: 143 innocent civilians a week (about 67% belligerents to 33% innocent civilians)
US Invading Iraq: 2137 innocent civilians a week (about a 10% belligerent to 90% innocent civilians)
assuming 1,000,000 innocent civilians over 9 years
Which country's belligerents/war criminals has demonstrated the greatest level of restraint and care?... so far...
Can you show me the actual words where Colpy defined an acceptable rate?
That isn't it....
Nor is that....
Remember ragging on me for twisting your words?
That isn't it....
Nor is that....
Remember ragging on me for twisting your words?
That's a silly generalization.
Oh that's easy. Israel has a rule of the law that includes a set of human rights.
Palestine doesn't.
Hence why you see immigration to Israel from Palestine, not the other way around.
Another easy one (After I edited out the nonsense), Israel.
Because they don't actually target civilians as a matter of policy. Like Syria does.
Colpy's exact post word for word:
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Yep.
The Israelis fought in the most densely populated area on earth for 21 days, using the most sophisticated conventional air, sea, and land power known.
They killed 1300 people. Somewhere between 25 and 50 % of those were militants.
they were carefully avoiding civilian casualties as much as possible while achieving their strategic ends.
In comparison, Allied Bomber command, using only air power, killed 80,000 people in the city of Dresden in a single night.........65 years ago.
THAT is targeting civilians.
The Americans killed considerably more than 100,000 in a single night raid on Tokyo.
THAT is targeting civilians.
At the very outside, 1000 dead civilians after 21 days of warfare in the most densely packed population centre on earth shows amazing restraint and care taken by Israelis.
Despite several incidents such as those above. Start tossing tons of explosives around, and Shyte happens.
As Colpy correctly pointed out, a modern well equipped military deliberately targeting civilians, would have killed more people than the Israelis did in 2008/2009.
Since the Syrians have killed civilians at a lower rate than the Israelis, I'd like to hear Colpy similarly praise the Syrians.
The Palestinian war criminals have crude unguided missiles... but they still get lucky every once in a while. I judge someone to be a war criminal based on their actions and intent.
Where is the word "acceptable"?
Try practicing as you preach. Propaganda is the same thing as bullshyte.
You've made mention of that in the past when you were defending terrorists with the asinine notion of proportional response.
And whether or not they're Jewish dictates the energy and focus.
Good luck with that.
Colpy wrote, " 1000 dead civilians after 21 days of warfare in the most densely packed population centre on earth shows amazing restraint and care taken by Israelis.".
Since the Syrians have killed less innocent civilians per week than the Israelis in GAza (2008/2009) and the Americans (Iraq 2003-2012) and LW is pretending like he doesn't understand my point, I'd like Lone Wolf and Colpy to rate the level of Syrian brutality relative to the Israeli and American level of brutality and explain their viewpoint.
The US and Israel have criticized the Syrian for killing less innocent civilians than the Americans and at a lower rate than the Israelis. I criticize all the war criminals... But Colpy supports some and criticizes others. I think he's a hypocrite, but I'd like to see him defend his opinion rather than attack me personally with insults..
Since the Syrians have killed less innocent civilians per week than the Israelis in GAza (2008/2009) and the Americans (Iraq 2003-2012) and LW is pretending like he doesn't understand my point, I'd like Lone Wolf and Colpy to rate the level of Syrian brutality relative to the Israeli and American level of brutality and explain their viewpoint.
The US and Israel have criticized the Syrian for killing less innocent civilians than the Americans and at a lower rate than the Israelis. I criticize all the war criminals... But Colpy supports some and criticizes others. I think he's a hypocrite, but I'd like to see him defend his opinion rather than attack me personally with insults..
You took that and twisted it to suit your purposes. Rather scummy to say the least. I asked you a question- Do you know what the average kill rate is to civilian innocent deaths to Soldiers and or Hamas or Hezbollah- Iranian Terrorists. Well do you.
I think Colpy would disagree with you. He gave the bombing of Dresden and Tokyo as examples of what targeting civilians looks like and Syria hasn't come close to that level of carnage... yet.
I doubt it, he's not prone to posting stupidity.
Only because Syria doesn't have nukes or fleets of bombers.
But don't let that stop you from posting the most idiotic commentary the board has ever seen.
During the 2008/2009 Gaza massacre, Palestinian militants killed only 3 civilians for every 10 Israeli soldiers.
You state your bias clearly- Should Israel have done nothing. Oh yes - how many civilians and how many Terrorists were killed.