Jewish MP: Israel acting like Nazis in Gaza

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More BS. I roasted you in that debate and I just roasted you again. I'm getting tired of bear ham, bear chops, bear tenderloin...

Beam me up Scotty....
 

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More BS. I roasted you in that debate and I just roasted you again. I'm getting tired of bear ham, bear chops, bear tenderloin...

Beam me up Scotty....
You aren't helping to build any credibility for your poor perception skills, lol.

In fact, that lame and delusional post, only lends credence to my observations.
 

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More BS. I roasted you in that debate and I just roasted you again. I'm getting tired of bear ham, bear chops, bear tenderloin...

Beam me up Scotty....

No sense in beaming you up- you are there- Everyone on this Forum has roasted you excepting Einrich and Dancing Loony Tunes- birds of a feather as they say- taken you to school- shown what your inner beliefs really are- that you lack morals. Shown that you twist and ignore facts- Otherwise a por excuse of humanity- I have met and still do meet your type all the time.

You are found to be severely lacking - this forum is the only place you have to show your true self- What a pitiful little, very little man you are.
 

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sorry Colpy, I missed your post as a result of an overwhelming deluge of BS posted by Goober and CB. I really should put them on my ignore list.

Regarding this post
First of all, 1000 dead civilians in Gaza, plus 400 dead militants WAS great restraint by the Israelis.....if you do the research, you'll find the usual ratio of civilians to combatant deaths in modern war is 10:1. Moreover, turns out it was more like 650 dead militants and 650 dead civilians, a 1:1 ratio.....in the most densely packed population on earth. That requires incredible care and caution by the Israelis, as the militants were hiding among the civilian population. Accusations of "war crimes" in the light of that are irresponsible at best.......the Israelis must ask themselves "Why bother being Mr Nice Guy if we are to be labeled War Criminals no matter WHAT we do???"

Secondly, I don't think I said 17,000 civilians had died in Syria, I said 17,000 ARABS had died in Syria. Yes, many of them would be combatants from both sides....but many many more are civilians. The Sunni rebels use suicide bombers and terror, and Assad's scum military fires on civilian areas with artillery and tanks and habitually attacks funerals as a terror tactic. Indeed, according to an radio interview I heard this week, gov't troops attacked a funeral procession with helicopters, killing over 100 and wounding God knows how many.

Now THAT is a war crime.

Let's play "Name that War Crime". Its simple. You name a war crime and I search the internet looking for Israeli examples. Its pretty easy since Israelis have committed pretty much every war crime I can imagine and quite a few I would never have thought anyone could commit.

War Crime #1: Government troops attacking a funeral procession

...According to the New York Times of 1 January 1989, Israeli troops, on 16 December 1988, shot and killed eight Palestinians during a funeral procession in Nablus for a 16-year-old Palestinian who had been killed a day earlier.
A/43/992-S/20372 of 5 January 1989

...the besieged residents of the Tel El-Sultan neighbourhood continued to suffer from lack of water and electricity owing to the extensive damage caused by the occupying forces to water networks and power lines, and mourners were even subject to Israeli gunfire during the mass funeral procession held on 24 May 2004 for 16 of the people who had been killed by the occupying forces and whose families were unable to reach them for burial during the siege.
A/ES-10/270-S/2004/485 of 10 June 2004

Nov 20, 2011: ...A Jewish settler opened fire randomly at a Palestinian funeral in Beit Ummar, north of Hebron. The Palestinian mourners responded by throwing stones. Israeli forces arrived at the scene and fired tear gas at the Palestinians, causing many to suffer from suffocation. (WAFA)
Chronological Review of Events/November 2011 - DPR review (30 November 2011)
(OK that one doesn't count as it was an Israeli settler, but I think that since the Israeli government doesn't consider killing Palestinians to be a serious crime its worth posting).

GAZA, March 10, 2012 – Israeli forces Saturday opened fire at a funeral held in Jabalia, north of Gaza City, for six Palestinians killed during the recent Israeli shelling injuring five, according to local sources. They said Israeli tanks stationed at the eastern borders of Gaza opened fire at the funeral when mourners reached the cemetery to bury the six Palestinians. One of the injured, who were transferred to hospital for treatment, was reported in serious condition.
Israeli Forces Open Fire at Gaza Funeral, Injure Five | Occupied Palestine |

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During the Gaza massacre, Gaza militants only killed 3 Israeli civilians for every 10 Israeli soldiers during their defense of Gaza. (Actually their actions weren't exactly defensive and would be more accurately described as going into hiding to emerge periodically to fire rockets in the general direction of Israel - a war crime... and the occasional sniper attack.) Surprisingly the few rockets that actually killed anyone tended to hit IDF soldiers rather than civilians. I suspect this had more to do with luck than skill. Based on this kill ratio, would you care to praise the armed militants for showing an even greater level of restraint than the IDF?

A war crime is not defined by kill ratios but by the violent acts. Bombing hospitals, schools, universities, UN supply depots, ambulances, blocking the ICRC from evacuating wounded civilians... are war crimes.

I referenced the Syrian opposition which claims that 17,000 people (I count ARABs as people, how about you?) have died in the Syrian uprising. Based on the source, the number is likely inflated. My impression of the Syrian conflict is similar to yours regarding violent deaths. I suspect that substantial number dead aren't innocent civilians.... much better than 10:1 because it appears to mostly street fighting up to this point. Most people on the streets during these battles are likely armed and involved in the conflict, although when the Syrian military calls in the heavy artillery, their innocent civilian to armed militant kill ratio likely drops to levels similar to the ratio the IDF achieved during the Gaza massacre.

Looking to the future, I'd say this conflict is about to get a lot bloodier. As the Assad regime becomes more desperate I expect the Syrian military will increase their use of airstrikes and heavy artillery... inevitably leading to increased innocent civilian deaths.

You're an idiot...."
Please try to respect forum rules.
 

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sorry Colpy, I missed your post as a result of an overwhelming deluge of BS posted by Goober and CB. I really should put them on my ignore list.

Regarding this post

Let's play "Name that War Crime". Its simple. You name a war crime and I search the internet looking for Israeli examples. Its pretty easy since Israelis have committed pretty much every war crime I can imagine and quite a few I would never have thought anyone could commit.

War Crime #1: Government troops attacking a funeral procession

...According to the New York Times of 1 January 1989, Israeli troops, on 16 December 1988, shot and killed eight Palestinians during a funeral procession in Nablus for a 16-year-old Palestinian who had been killed a day earlier.
A/43/992-S/20372 of 5 January 1989

...the besieged residents of the Tel El-Sultan neighbourhood continued to suffer from lack of water and electricity owing to the extensive damage caused by the occupying forces to water networks and power lines, and mourners were even subject to Israeli gunfire during the mass funeral procession held on 24 May 2004 for 16 of the people who had been killed by the occupying forces and whose families were unable to reach them for burial during the siege.
A/ES-10/270-S/2004/485 of 10 June 2004

Nov 20, 2011: ...A Jewish settler opened fire randomly at a Palestinian funeral in Beit Ummar, north of Hebron. The Palestinian mourners responded by throwing stones. Israeli forces arrived at the scene and fired tear gas at the Palestinians, causing many to suffer from suffocation. (WAFA)
Chronological Review of Events/November 2011 - DPR review (30 November 2011)
(OK that one doesn't count as it was an Israeli settler, but I think that since the Israeli government doesn't consider killing Palestinians to be a serious crime its worth posting).

GAZA, March 10, 2012 – Israeli forces Saturday opened fire at a funeral held in Jabalia, north of Gaza City, for six Palestinians killed during the recent Israeli shelling injuring five, according to local sources. They said Israeli tanks stationed at the eastern borders of Gaza opened fire at the funeral when mourners reached the cemetery to bury the six Palestinians. One of the injured, who were transferred to hospital for treatment, was reported in serious condition.
Israeli Forces Open Fire at Gaza Funeral, Injure Five | Occupied Palestine |

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During the Gaza massacre, Gaza militants only killed 3 Israeli civilians for every 10 Israeli soldiers during their defense of Gaza. (Actually their actions weren't exactly defensive and would be more accurately described as going into hiding to emerge periodically to fire rockets in the general direction of Israel - a war crime... and the occasional sniper attack.) Surprisingly the few rockets that actually killed anyone tended to hit IDF soldiers rather than civilians. I suspect this had more to do with luck than skill. Based on this kill ratio, would you care to praise the armed militants for showing an even greater level of restraint than the IDF?

A war crime is not defined by kill ratios but by the violent acts. Bombing hospitals, schools, universities, UN supply depots, ambulances, blocking the ICRC from evacuating wounded civilians... are war crimes.

I referenced the Syrian opposition which claims that 17,000 people (I count ARABs as people, how about you?) have died in the Syrian uprising. Based on the source, the number is likely inflated. My impression of the Syrian conflict is similar to yours regarding violent deaths. I suspect that substantial number dead aren't innocent civilians.... much better than 10:1 because it appears to mostly street fighting up to this point. Most people on the streets during these battles are likely armed and involved in the conflict, although when the Syrian military calls in the heavy artillery, their innocent civilian to armed militant kill ratio likely drops to levels similar to the ratio the IDF achieved during the Gaza massacre.

Looking to the future, I'd say this conflict is about to get a lot bloodier. As the Assad regime becomes more desperate I expect the Syrian military will increase their use of airstrikes and heavy artillery... inevitably leading to increased innocent civilian deaths.


Please try to respect forum rules.

Why respect forum rules when you slander another Forum member- Please note that your sources have proven bias.
 

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sorry Colpy, I missed your post as a result of an overwhelming deluge of BS posted by Goober and CB. I really should put them on my ignore list.
You could, but I'd still tear apart your posts and prove them to be nothing more than a formulated attempt to deomize Israel. Whether you read and/or reply to them anyways.

Just like I did in the flotilla thread.

Let's play "Name that War Crime". Its simple. You name a war crime and I search the internet looking for Israeli examples. Its pretty easy since Israelis have committed pretty much every war crime I can imagine and quite a few I would never have thought anyone could commit.
That's an excellent example of what I'm talking about.

Absolutely no attempt at all whatsoever to differentiate between all Israelis and specific acts by the IDF/Gov't.

This is where and how you separate yourself from Colpy.

Please try to respect forum rules.
An excellent example of hypocrisy.
 

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You could, but I'd still tear apart your posts and prove them to be nothing more than a formulated attempt to deomize Israel. Whether you read and/or reply to them anyways.

Just like I did in the flotilla thread.

That's an excellent example of what I'm talking about.

Absolutely no attempt at all whatsoever to differentiate between all Israelis and specific acts by the IDF/Gov't.

This is where and how you separate yourself from Colpy.

An excellent example of hypocrisy.

Enjoy your 3 day weekend.
 

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Prove it.

It seems like it could be wasted effort. EAO regularly has posted thorough and concise information damning to all the beliefs of Israeli supporters but you still all sit with your fingers in your ears or maybe a hand over your eyes would be a more appropriate expression in this case

You could, but I'd still tear apart your posts and prove them to be nothing more than a formulated attempt to deomize Israel. Whether you read and/or reply to them anyways.

Just like I did in the flotilla thread.

That's an excellent example of what I'm talking about.

Absolutely no attempt at all whatsoever to differentiate between all Israelis and specific acts by the IDF/Gov't.

This is where and how you separate yourself from Colpy.

An excellent example of hypocrisy.
No one here attempts to demonize Israel, they do it themselves by their actions. Please for your own sake of not looking like a complete imbecile do some research on the matter or don't comment at all. It's blatant the Israel supporters here are all blindly supporting the country out of hatred of Muslim people.
 

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It seems like it could be wasted effort. EAO regularly has posted thorough and concise information damning to all the beliefs of Israeli supporters but you still all sit with your fingers in your ears or maybe a hand over your eyes would be a more appropriate expression in this case


No one here attempts to demonize Israel, they do it themselves by their actions. Please for your own sake of not looking like a complete imbecile do some research on the matter or don't comment at all. It's blatant the Israel supporters here are all blindly supporting the country out of hatred of Muslim people.

EAO considers Iran a democracy, expresses support for the gov'ts of Syria and North Korea, and expresses great admiration for China.

And you think WE have our ears stuffed and our eyes covered.

It is to laugh.
 

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It seems like it could be wasted effort. EAO regularly has posted thorough and concise information damning to all the beliefs of Israeli supporters but you still all sit with your fingers in your ears or maybe a hand over your eyes would be a more appropriate expression in this case
Says the guy that dismisses incontrovertible evidence.

No one here attempts to demonize Israel...
I've already prove several times that, that is all you and EAO do.

Please for your own sake of not looking like a complete imbecile do some research on the matter or don't comment at all.
You should take your own advice.

It's blatant the Israel supporters here are all blindly supporting the country out of hatred of Muslim people.
What an excellent example of an imbecilic comment.
 
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EAO considers Iran a democracy, expresses support for the gov'ts of Syria and North Korea, and expresses great admiration for China.

And you think WE have our ears stuffed and our eyes covered.

It is to laugh.
AND you have a deluded belief we're living in a democracy, U.S.A are great neighbours who only strive to protect the world from evil doers (what asinine childish nonsense), Israel is doing nothing wrong to the Palestinians and it's those who have their houses bulldozed by them that are the terrorists. :lol:
 

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AND you have a deluded belief we're living in a democracy, U.S.A are great neighbours who only strive to protect the world from evil doers (what asinine childish nonsense), Israel is doing nothing wrong to the Palestinians and it's those who have their houses bulldozed by them that are the terrorists. :lol:

So is there such a thing as a Muslim Terrorist?
 

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AND you have a deluded belief we're living in a democracy, U.S.A are great neighbours who only strive to protect the world from evil doers (what asinine childish nonsense), Israel is doing nothing wrong to the Palestinians and it's those who have their houses bulldozed by them that are the terrorists. :lol:

We ARE living in a democracy.

The USA are relatively good neighbours, considering the super-power alternatives.

Israel is much better to the Palestinians than the Palestinians are to Israel.

Those are the facts.