Jewish MP: Israel acting like Nazis in Gaza

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When you quote someone, they have a little arrow next to their name. click on the arrow and it takes you to that post.

But here is the long version
http://forums.canadiancontent.net/n...oportionate-response-hamas-3.html#post1047510

Please feel free to agree or disagree with Colpy.

For the record, I am against both oppressive and unjust regimes for more or less the same reasons.

Colpy did not even come close to stating what you posted.

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If I recall you are on the record as saying that only killing 1000 innocent civilians every 3 weeks shows amazing restraint and care.

You have no proof- Then a retraction is required.
 

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Colpy; Gee Whiz said:
Funny you should mention cheez whizz, like it, you are a homogeneous sandwich spread of synthetic tasteless origin intended to clog the arteries of the gullible reader. The death toll in Syria is directly attributable to the lowest mercenary scum available and paid for by the western taxpayer to destabalize that nation by murder rape and destruction.
No nation has murdered more semites than Israel.

On an unrelated lighter note, how the hell are you Colpy?


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Colpy's wrote this word for word:
1000 dead civilians after 21 days of warfare in the most densely packed population centre on earth shows amazing restraint and care taken by Israelis.

What I wrote:
If I recall you are on the record as saying that only killing 1000 innocent civilians every 3 weeks shows amazing restraint and care.

Suffice to say that after three weeks of death and destruction, Colpy thought that only killing a thousand innocent civilians showed amazing restraint and care.

Therefore it would be reasonable to assume that Colpy would describe the Syrian government as having acted with an even greater level of restraint and care for only killing 17,000 innocent civilians after 70 weeks.

BTW, the 17,000 number is likely far greater than the actual number of dead innocent civilians in the Syrian uprising. More likely the anti-Syrian activists are counting everyone (militants, soldiers, innocent civilians...) who has died so far in the Syrian uprising and inflated the numbers to some degree. Likely the actual number of innocent civilians killed during this uprising far less than 17,000.

For the record I do not support violence, oppression or injustice. I only support non-violent resistance to oppression and injustice.

Goober, CDNBear and Colpy support the current oppressive and unjust regime in Israel. The same one that the MP in the Opening Post describe as acting like Nazis. The same one which uses violence to crush armed militants and a significant number of innocent civilians. So we know what you guys support.

Colpy described the rate of innocent civilians deaths per week by an oppressive unjust regime which demonstrates an amazing level of restraint and care. Since the oppressive and unjust Syrian regime has demonstrated a significantly lower weekly innocent civilian kill rate than the oppressive and unjust Israeli regime, then I would expect him to be consistent and also describe the Syrian regime as having acted with an amazing level of restraint and care.
 
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Colpy's wrote this word for word:
1000 dead civilians after 21 days of warfare in the most densely packed population centre on earth shows amazing restraint and care taken by Israelis.

What I wrote:
If I recall you are on the record as saying that only killing 1000 innocent civilians every 3 weeks shows amazing restraint and care.

Suffice to say that after three weeks of death and destruction, Colpy thought that only killing a thousand innocent civilians showed amazing restraint and care.

Therefore it would be reasonable to assume that Colpy would describe the Syrian government as having acted with an even greater level of restraint and care for only killing 17,000 innocent civilians after 70 weeks.

BTW, the 17,000 number is likely far greater than the actual number of dead civilians in the Syrian uprising. More likely the anti-Syrian activists are counting everyone (militants, soldiers, innocent civilians...) who has died so far in the Syrian uprising and inflated the numbers to some degree. Likely the actual number of innocent civilians killed during this uprising far less than 17,000.

For the record I do not support violence, oppression or injustice. I only support non-violent resistance to oppression and injustice.

Goober, CDNBear and Colpy support the current oppressive and unjust regime in Israel. The same one that the MP in the Opening Post describe as acting like Nazis. So we know what you guys support.

Colpy described the rate of innocent civilians deaths per week by an oppressive unjust regime which demonstrates an amazing level of restraint and care. Since the oppressive and unjust Syrian regime has demonstrated a significantly lower weekly innocent civilian kill rate than the oppressive and unjust Israeli regime, then I would expect him to be consistent and also describe the Syrian regime as having acted with an amazing level of restraint and care.

Do you have a post where he stated that- If not then you have no proof- So show the evidence or retract.
 

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Colpy's wrote this word for word:
1000 dead civilians after 21 days of warfare in the most densely packed population centre on earth shows amazing restraint and care taken by Israelis.

What I wrote:
If I recall you are on the record as saying that only killing 1000 innocent civilians every 3 weeks shows amazing restraint and care.
If you can't see your error, it's likely because your lie was a conscious effort.

This post, like the rest of your posts, are simply a simple minded diversion.

Goober, CDNBear and Colpy support the current oppressive and unjust regime in Israel.
LOL. Speaking of diversionary.
 

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No, because your accusation isn't supported by it.

Nice diversionary tactics though, lol.

The negative reps, are for your continued conscious lie and diversionary BS.
 

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This is what Colpy Posted-
Yep.

Except THERE IS NO EXPANSION IN GAZA. ISRAEL FORCIBLY REMOVED JEWISH SETTLERS IN GAZA IN 2005.

Sorry to yell, but damn, you guys are deaf.

Otherwise, although I disagree in some ways with your analysis of the situation, you have got the general idea.

Gaza is not Israeli territory. Israel is being attacked from inside Gaza, by a group that appears to have significant support among the population. Therefore the population pays, because they refuse to reject those that attack Israel. Short of wholescale murder, that is all they have any right to expect.

International law is a joke.

Now show me where he stated this as you claimed
If I recall you are on the record as saying that only killing 1000 innocent civilians every 3 weeks shows amazing restraint and care.
 

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If you can't see your error, it's likely because your lie was a conscious effort.

This post, like the rest of your posts, are simply a simple minded diversion.

Colpy defined an acceptable innocent civilian killing rate which demonstrates amazing restraint and care.

You must be having trouble understanding that the same innocent civilian kill rate over a longer period of time would result in a greater number number of civilian casualties.

Please review this grade 6 math video regarding ratios and after you've grasped the concept, come back with an educated response:
Number Sense - Ratios: 6th grade math - YouTube
 

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Colpy defined an acceptable innocent civilian killing rate which demonstrates amazing restraint and care.

You must be having trouble understanding that the same innocent civilian kill rate over a longer period of time would result in a greater number number of civilian casualties.

Please review this grade 6 math video regarding ratios and after you've grasped the concept, come back with an educated response:
Number Sense - Ratios: 6th grade math - YouTube

You took Colpys post and deliberately twisted it and slandered Colpy implying that 1000 dead every 3 weeks was acceptable to him. Ain't that against the rules. You are one for quoting the rules are you not.

So again - Retract the post. Stating clearly that Colpy did not state such.
 

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Colpy defined an acceptable innocent civilian killing rate which demonstrates amazing restraint and care.
No, he stated that a toll, in a single event showed great restraint.

You must be having trouble understanding that the same innocent civilian kill rate over a longer period of time would result in a greater number number of civilian casualties.
If that is what he said, sure.

But everyone knows exactly what he was referring to.

Stop lying, your posts look foolish and absurd.

Please review this grade 6 math video regarding ratios and after you've grasped the concept, come back with an educated response:
For someone who cries like a bitch when they get what they beg for with nonsense like that, you really shouldn't post nonsense like that.

Perhaps if you tried to be honest for once, you wouldn't have to resort to such childish flame baiting.
 

earth_as_one

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This is what Colpy Posted-
Yep.

Except THERE IS NO EXPANSION IN GAZA. ISRAEL FORCIBLY REMOVED JEWISH SETTLERS IN GAZA IN 2005.

Sorry to yell, but damn, you guys are deaf.

Otherwise, although I disagree in some ways with your analysis of the situation, you have got the general idea.

Gaza is not Israeli territory. Israel is being attacked from inside Gaza, by a group that appears to have significant support among the population. Therefore the population pays, because they refuse to reject those that attack Israel. Short of wholescale murder, that is all they have any right to expect.

International law is a joke.

Now show me where he stated this as you claimed
If I recall you are on the record as saying that only killing 1000 innocent civilians every 3 weeks shows amazing restraint and care.

I see the old "Gaza isn't Israel's responsibility" and therefore the number of innocent civilians that Israel kills is beside the point argument.

Did you read Colpy's post? He referenced the Soviet siege of Berlin and the Allied bombing of Dresden as relatively high innocent civilian casualty rates. You must believe that Berlin was part of the Soviet Union and that Dresden was part of England. I guess you need a geography lesson:
Geography Of Germany Information, Videos, Pictures and News
 

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I see the old "Gaza isn't Israel's responsibility" and therefore the number of innocent civilians that Israel kills is beside the point argument.

Did you read Colpy's post? He referenced the Soviet siege of Berlin and the Allied bombing of Dresden as relatively high innocent civilian casualty rates. You must believe that Berlin was part of the Soviet Union and that Dresden was part of England. I guess you need a geography lesson:
Geography Of Germany Information, Videos, Pictures and News

No- I am well aware of what Bomber Command did in Europe- and in the Pacific- Japan in particular- Now away with the diversions-Colpy did not make that statement as you claimed.

What is the problem with admitting an error-
 

earth_as_one

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No, he stated that a toll, in a single event showed great restraint.

If that is what he said, sure.

But everyone knows exactly what he was referring to.

Stop lying, your posts look foolish and absurd.

For someone who cries like a bitch when they get what they beg for with nonsense like that, you really shouldn't post nonsense like that.

Perhaps if you tried to be honest for once, you wouldn't have to resort to such childish flame baiting.

A single event? C'mon CB, even you can't seriously believe that blatant misrepresentation. Let me remind you of some events which occurred during Israel's three week rampage in Gaza:

1) The IDF deliberately shelling densely populated urban areas with heavy artillary and white phosphorus.

2) The IDF deliberately bombing civilian targets including evacuation shelters and schools.

3) The IDF shooting up ambulances, medical workers and humanitarian aid convoys.

4) IDF soldiers preventing the Red Cross from accessing and evacuating wounded civilians.

During the previous 18 months before the above attacks, Israel blockaded Gaza and prevented 80% of international humanitarian food and medical aid from reaching Gaza civilians.

And you describe these actions as a single event?
 

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I see the old "Gaza isn't Israel's responsibility" and therefore the number of innocent civilians that Israel kills is beside the point argument.

Did you read Colpy's post? He referenced the Soviet siege of Berlin and the Allied bombing of Dresden as relatively high innocent civilian casualty rates. You must believe that Berlin was part of the Soviet Union and that Dresden was part of England. I guess you need a geography lesson:
Geography Of Germany Information, Videos, Pictures and News
Geeze, this post just smacks of angst and anger.

Perhaps having your false demonizing claims about the legality of Israels actions against the flotilla of stupidity, has made you a tad cranky.

Perhaps a little time out is in order.

Turn off your puter and go outside for a bit.

A single event? C'mon CB, even you can't serious believe that blatant misrepresentation.
His number was in direct reference to Operation Cast Lead. Full Stop.

Your dishonest and purposeful misrepresentation of his commentary, is nothing more than flame baiting and trolling.
 

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Lets recap here.

Colpy claims that only killing a 1000 innocent civilians over a three week period demonstrated an "amazing restraint and care taken by Israelis".

Therefore it would reasonable to assume that Colpy would describe only killing 17,000 innocent civilians (more likely less than 10,000) over a 70 week period as an even greater level of restraint and care taken by the Syrians.

I'm sorry you are having a hard time with grade 6 math.
 

CDNBear

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Lets recap here.

Colpy claims that only killing a 1000 innocent civilians over a three week period demonstrated an "amazing restraint and care taken by Israelis".

Therefore it would reasonable to assume that Colpy would describe only killing 17,000 innocent civilians (more likely less than 10,000) over a 70 week period as an even greater level of restraint and care taken by the Syrians.

I'm sorry you are having a hard time with grade 6 math.
I'm not.

You're having difficulty with basic comprehension, logic and honesty.

Which has been definitely caused by the anger and embarrassment you feel, after having your silly claims on legal issues well outside your understanding, being thoroughly disproved.
 

earth_as_one

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You must have flunked math.

I believe part of the problem is that you are having trouble reconciling Israel's slaughter of innocent civilians with the Syrian slaughter of innocent civilians. Certainly Goober is doing all kinds of contortions to make it seem like one oppressive and unjust regime slaughtering innocent civilians is much different than the other oppressive and unjust regime slaughtering innocent civilians, when fundamentally its the same thing.

Also, referencing Colpy's post, he describes an acceptable armed militant to civilian kill ratio. He wrote:

They killed 1300 people. Somewhere between 25 and 50 % of those were militants. they were carefully avoiding civilian casualties as much as possible while achieving their strategic ends.

I suspect that since the Syrian government isn't shelling/bombing evacuation shelters, schools, ambulances, medical workers, humanitarian aid convoys or preventing the Red Cross from accessing and evacuating wounded civilians... that the Syrian armed militant to civilian to militant kill ratio to achieve their strategic ends is probably much lower than the Israeli civilian to militant kill ratio. Probably closer to the much better ratio achieved by the Gaza militants. (77% of their casualties were Israeli soldiers, only 23% were civilians)

For the record, I oppose violence, even to gain freedom and justice... I see all violent belligerents on all sides of an armed conflict as guilty and all civilians on both sides as innocent.

In violent conflicts, I'm on the side of innocent civilians who just want to live in peace..
 
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