Dad beats daughter’s alleged molester to death

[Omicron]

What did the meters report when truth-sensors were put on the daughter and she was asked the questions?

What did the daughter say when hooked to truth-sensors?

Aside from the fact that that rats soul gets tossed off to Lucifer as scrap while you guys keep getting seduced through Wall Street to donait more... are so desperate for justice... it's absofuclinglutely incredible how you will lay there on the ground jerking off under anti-evolution demon-control without actually reading the Bible.

Plus you've obviously never really prayed.

To keep an economy going money must circulate. To keep it circulation it must be spend (versus re-investing it leading to Lucifer economic-breakdown major feeding for that fungus spirit)

Ever read the part about how the Father's House has Many Rooms?

You guys are stunning about your lack of understanding of quantum relativity. That means you never went to school in Alberta after church-going farmers read their Bible after the dustbowl.

So here's the issue.

I got taught in Alberta after all hard times... yet still somehow, regardless of the hardness like the leacher-demons taking down the economy in 2008 the deal is still this.

It needs to be sorted out to a couple levels.

Some were hard, but they were just fat femal grabbing me and scrubbing me under cold water until I want insane and now I can go into the Itoyopi cafe in the Standoff Mall and act normal.

 

[TenPenny]

Kids that age are innocent and aren't into deceit beyond getting their fingers in the cookie jar.

That's completely untrue, and believing that has caused innocent people to be charged with crimes.

 

[Walter]

Kids that age are innocent and aren't into deceit beyond getting their fingers in the cookie jar.

Talk to any ECE and you'll have your eyes opened.

 

[JLM]

That's completely untrue, and believing that has caused innocent people to be charged with crimes.

Generally in cases like that someone with nefarious intentions has corrupted the kid. :smile:

 

[TenPenny]

I remember when my nephew was in grade 1; he told his teacher that his parents made him and his sister live in cardboard boxes in the basement (which is something my sister and I used to tease my mother about, claiming I was spoiled because my box had windows cut into it).

Of course, this resulted in a social worker coming for a home visit, she was completely confused as to why such an innocent child would make up a story like that. Oh, I dunno, maybe becuase it's funny?

Maybe because, at that age, everything kids are taught is fiction, fairy tales, nursery rhymes, santa claus and the tooth fairy, and then we somehow think kids can't invent stories? Isn't that what we teach them to do, from the time they're born?

 

[earth_as_one]

Yes I know something about rape cases. I'm no expert, but a close friend of mine worked as a court translator during a rape case in Canada. The victim was a young teenaged Mexican girl. The accused was a Canadian man his 20's. The guy dragged the girl into the woods, tied her up and raped her. After the attack the girl went home, took a shower, washed her clothes, told her family about the attack, who then called the police. The girl was closely examined and found to have some physical evidence of rape (bruising in the vaginal area, other signs of trauma and a recently perforated hymen), but no physical evidence linking the accused to the attack. I believe the girl's testimony, but ultimately a lack of conclusive evidence linking the accused to the attack resulted in no conviction. So yes I know something about how hard it is to prove rape.

If any women are reading this, take a lesson from this case. If you are raped, do not shower or wash your clothes. You may feel like you just want to forget that it happened and move on, but that won't happen. Your first actions immediately following the rape will have a huge impact on whether or not you will get justice. Do not disturb the crime scene. Leave everything exactly the way it is and call the police right away, before doing anything else. Most likely a women police officer trained in dealing with rape cases will be assigned to your case. She will take your testimony and give you guidance. You can clean up after a medical person (usually a female nurse) collects the evidence with a rape kit. Everyone handling your case will be sensitive to the fact that you are a victim in shock. They will be thinking more clearly than you are. You must trust that the trained professionals will be sensitive to your mental state and do their best to make sure your attacker is held accountable for their actions. Rapists who face no consequences for their action will likely repeat their heinous crime.

Back to the opening post. If I understand what he claims happened, the guy heard his daughter scream, ran over to her, saw a guy molesting his daughter, pulled the guy off his daughter and then beat him to death. Based on the alleged chain of events, I doubt they will find any more evidence that the above case, which did not result in a conviction. By the sounds of it, the father was the first person to witness the crime. Likely all the other witnesses saw an angry man beating another man to death.

Back to my point about vigilante justice. If we allow people to take justice into their own hands, then everyone becomes a judge, jury and executioner. Victims, family and close friends are not objective. People are falsely accused of crimes all the time. People misinterpret what they believe they saw. People lie for many reasons. If we let emotions rule our behavior, innocent people will be attacked and even killed along with the guilty. Once this cycle of vigilante violence starts, it grows until the criminal justice system breaks down. The Eaton Center shooting is an example of one possible result of vigilante justice.

My point is that we must not interfere in the criminal justice system. We must trust that the trained professionals will do their best to find justice.

The guy in the opening post who killed the man he believes molested his daughter should be charged. I hope he gets a fair trial. If the evidence supports his allegations, then I hope the court is lenient. I trust judges to use judgement, but I also know that the criminal system is not perfect. Sometimes guilty people will avoid justice and innocent people will be convicted. But the sooner we involve the trained professionals, the more likely justice will be the result. We must never take the law into our own hands.

BTW, I come here less and less frequently because of the rampant trolling on this forum. Personnel attacks and character assassinations have become the norm here. Not only do the trolls get away with their bad behavior, they usually give each other a thumbs up. Look at Goober's and CB's posts in this thread and ask yourself, what do their posts have to do with the topic? Do their posts respect forum rules regarding personnel attacks? Even TP's initial post in this thread is off the wall.The decline of this forum is evident to anyone who has been here for any length of time. The degradation of this forum is a direct consequence of trolling behavior. Once I leave, the trolls will turn on other people. Eventually after the trolls have chased everyone else off, they will turn on each other. As this forum will become less and less popular until even the moderators move on.

 

[Nuggler]

..................:lol::lol::lol:

 

[lone wolf]

Why? Working on something?

I doubt if the intent was to kill. Never been a father, eh?

Where is the snide EAO? You read what you wanted to read....

 

[TenPenny]

The guy in the opening post who killed the man he believes molested his daughter should be charged.

I never claimed he shouldn't be charged, or that there shouldn't be a trial.

I still don't understand why you equated sexually assaulting a child to two adults having consensual sex.

Do you have an explanation for that, or did I hurt your feelings?

 

[lone wolf]

I never claimed he shouldn't be charged, or that there shouldn't be a trial.

I still don't understand why you equated sexually assaulting a child to two adults having consensual sex.

Do you have an explanation for that, or did I hurt your feelings?

I still can't get over a father - whose first instinct, if only for reasons of survival, would be: "Save my child!" - would worry about covering his own arse and waiting on witnesses.

Most human parents see nothing else, hear nothing else, know nothing else, but that cry for help. Like it or not, there is still a lot of animal stuff in people. Can I be held responsible if some diddler's head just happened to be between me and my kid ... in That state?

...with all due respect and polite as can be....

 

[TenPenny]

I still can't get over a father - whose first instinct, if only for reasons of survival, would be: "Save my child!" - would worry about covering his own arse and waiting on witnesses.

that's the difference between someone who has been there, and someone who knows a guy who was a translator for someone else who had this thing happen to his uncle's friend's cousin's next-door neighbor, and heard about it at a party 76 years later.

 

[earth_as_one]

I never claimed he shouldn't be charged, or that there shouldn't be a trial.

I still don't understand why you equated sexually assaulting a child to two adults having consensual sex.

Do you have an explanation for that, or did I hurt your feelings?

I never claimed that molesting a child is the same as consenting sex between two adults. Your misrepresentation of my posts are a form of trolling behavior.

Your post that hinted that since I know so much about rape, I must be a child molester crosses many lines. I could have flamed you right back but behaving like a troll is not going to improve this forum. Complaining to the mods about these constant personal attacks and character assassinations is ineffective. The trolls get a time out maybe and then they come right back. Instead the trolls should be banned permanently... IMO.

I figured I'd come back and see how many people wanted to change the way this forum works and clean this place up. I see that my poll on that issue was divided. About 50% of the people here recognized the problem and the other 50% are either part of the problem or they don't see a problem. That means that I probably should not come here. I don't need to be accused of being a pedophile, planning to kill someone, and all the other irrelevant BS that some people here believe passes for intelligent debate.

 

[spaminator]

was that ever done in real life?

 

[earth_as_one]

I still can't get over a father - whose first instinct, if only for reasons of survival, would be: "Save my child!" - would worry about covering his own arse and waiting on witnesses.

Most human parents see nothing else, hear nothing else, know nothing else, but that cry for help. Like it or not, there is still a lot of animal stuff in people. Can I be held responsible if some diddler's head just happened to be between me and my kid ... in That state?

...with all due respect and polite as can be....

More BS.

I never said that and you know it. What I said is the father should be charged for killing the alleged child molester. I said that people should not attempt to take justice into their own hands. I said I understand the father's anger. I would expect that the father would intervene. I would expect the father would use whatever force necessary to protect their daughter.

But what happened is that the the father beat the alleged molester to death. I doubt that happened just by pulling the guy off his daughter. Most likely he started beating the alleged molester after his daughter was no longer in danger. I don't know this for certain, but since he beat this guy to death, the beating probably continued after the molester was unconscious and no longer a threat. If that's the way this went down, then yes I have a problem with the father's actions. In any event, the father killed a man and he should be charged. I said that the courts should treat the father with leniency if the evidence supports the father's allegation about the victim's actions.

Nowhere did I say the father should be concerned about covering his own arse and waiting on witnesses.

I won't defend statements I never made. Falsely attributing statements to me is a straw man type of argument.

I am against vigilante justice, even if I understand it or even sympathize with it. Anyone who assaults and kills someone should be charged. Its up to the courts to decide if the assault was justified or that the circumstances warrant leniency.

 

[Goober]

BTW, I come here less and less frequently because of the rampant trolling on this forum. Personnel attacks and character assassinations have become the norm here. Not only do the trolls get away with their bad behavior, they usually give each other a thumbs up. Look at Goober's and CB's posts in this thread and ask yourself, what do their posts have to do with the topic? Do their posts respect forum rules regarding personnel attacks? Even TP's initial post in this thread is off the wall.The decline of this forum is evident to anyone who has been here for any length of time. The degradation of this forum is a direct consequence of trolling behavior. Once I leave, the trolls will turn on other people. Eventually after the trolls have chased everyone else off, they will turn on each other. As this forum will become less and less popular until even the moderators move on.

Reason you do not visit more often is people know what you are - next- i stand by what i say- I pity any child fathered by you- but you have told enough lies that who can tell what is fact or fiction in your life.
Other things are fact - A jew hater - A hard on for Mods-
You are a scared little boy dressed up as a man- perhaps a man-
TTFN

 

[earth_as_one]

You and CB are two main reasons why this forum will never grow beyond more than about a dozen regular contributors. Neither of you add anything of value to this forum. Your main focus is to figure out new ways to insult and personally attack people. The above post being yet another example of your troll like behavior.

Debate is about attacking a person's ideas, rather than them personally. That doesn't happen that much on this forum anymore. Its become mostly a forum for insults and taunts.

 

[lone wolf]

More BS.

I never said that and you know it. What I said is the father should be charged for killing the alleged child molester. I said that people should not attempt to take justice into their own hands. I said I understand the father's anger. I would expect that the father would intervene. I would expect the father would use whatever force necessary to protect their daughter.

But what happened is that the the father beat the alleged molester to death. I doubt that happened just by pulling the guy off his daughter. Most likely he started beating the alleged molester after his daughter was no longer in danger. I don't know this for certain, but since he beat this guy to death, the beating probably continued after the molester was unconscious and no longer a threat. If that's the way this went down, then yes I have a problem with the father's actions. In any event, the father killed a man and he should be charged. I said that the courts should treat the father with leniency if the evidence supports the father's allegation about the victim's actions.

Nowhere did I say the father should be concerned about covering his own arse and waiting on witnesses.

I won't defend statements I never made. Falsely attributing statements to me is a straw man type of argument.

I am against vigilante justice, even if I understand it or even sympathize with it. Anyone who assaults and kills someone should be charged. Its up to the courts to decide if the assault was justified or that the circumstances warrant leniency.

Doncha just hate half-truth when it bytes your ass?

 

[Goober]

You and CB are two main reasons why this forum will never grow beyond more than about a dozen regular contributors. Neither of you add anything of value to this forum. Your main focus is to figure out new ways to insult and personally attack people. The above post being yet another example of your troll like behavior.

Debate is about attacking a person's ideas, rather than them personally. That doesn't happen that much on this forum anymore. Its become mostly a forum for insults and taunts.

Oh we all have debated your ideas- Some call it hate- some like myself call it jew hating- You are known for running away when confroonted with facts- You ask someone to prove a point - they do- And off you go. So TTFN

And that does not stand for Ta ta for now

 

[TenPenny]

I could have flamed you right back but behaving like a troll is not going to improve this forum.

When did you come to this sudden and very recent understanding? Certainly, you've never exhibited any indication that you felt this way before.

I never claimed that molesting a child is the same as consenting sex between two adults. Your misrepresentation of my posts are a form of trolling behavior.

You are the one who brought it up; if you don't like the smell of ****, don't carry it around.

 

[lone wolf]

I never claimed that molesting a child is the same as consenting sex between two adults. Your misrepresentation of my posts are a form of trolling behavior.

Your post that hinted that since I know so much about rape, I must be a child molester crosses many lines. I could have flamed you right back but behaving like a troll is not going to improve this forum. Complaining to the mods about these constant personal attacks and character assassinations is ineffective. The trolls get a time out maybe and then they come right back. Instead the trolls should be banned permanently... IMO.

I figured I'd come back and see how many people wanted to change the way this forum works and clean this place up. I see that my poll on that issue was divided. About 50% of the people here recognized the problem and the other 50% are either part of the problem or they don't see a problem. That means that I probably should not come here. I don't need to be accused of being a pedophile, planning to kill someone, and all the other irrelevant BS that some people here believe passes for intelligent debate.

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