NDP sets up roadblocks to budget bill
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The "OAS stuff" is dictated much more by demographics and economics than on politics!
Well I don't know about that.
It seems that they realize that the Conservatives have the power to bind legislation like this together but that, as members of parliament, the NDP have powers to extend debate and make the legislation that ultimately passes known to the media and the people. I don't really like filibustering, I think it just throws sand in the gears of government, but omnibus bills just pull wool over the eyes people. Which in my opinion is worse.
This sort of behavior is the exact same thing the Conservatives criticized the Liberals for when in power, jamming all sorts of legislation into omnibus bills. History really does repeat it self...
The last time a government did what this one is doing was in the Trudeau era and
the same party doing this is the one who rejected the idea back then. Any party
wants a strong economy. Some of the government measures are fine others are
not, and I think we have to have a policy of change in digestible bites.
the same party doing this is the one who rejected the idea back then. Any party
wants a strong economy. Some of the government measures are fine others are
not, and I think we have to have a policy of change in digestible bites.
People should just be honest, "This power is really abusive, and nobody, not even me, should be trusted with it." That's the one thing that I like about Harper, he is a true rules lawyer. I imagine playing board games with him would be loss after loss.
The thing we all forget is that the House of Parliament is the greatest show on earth
when it comes to theatre. The Tories learned very well how to become an official
opposition. Now the NDP is the party in training. When you think about it they are
using the same tactics the Tories did in decades past.
The other thing about this is, a bill is proposed, and an opposition is supposed to do
it job making sure the best features of the bill are passed and the chaff is eliminated.
that is the process, we sure don't want laws enacted the way they are originally
proposed unless it is in a state of emergency.
Remember the law that gets passed we are going to have to live with for some considerable
time and it should be a law that does the job, not just one that satisfies the government in
power or the official opposition's ends.
when it comes to theatre. The Tories learned very well how to become an official
opposition. Now the NDP is the party in training. When you think about it they are
using the same tactics the Tories did in decades past.
The other thing about this is, a bill is proposed, and an opposition is supposed to do
it job making sure the best features of the bill are passed and the chaff is eliminated.
that is the process, we sure don't want laws enacted the way they are originally
proposed unless it is in a state of emergency.
Remember the law that gets passed we are going to have to live with for some considerable
time and it should be a law that does the job, not just one that satisfies the government in
power or the official opposition's ends.
Has anybody else noticed that lately....the threads.......... since Harper got a majority....... have been full of................
Has anybody else noticed that lately....the threads.......... since Harper got a majority....... have been full of................
Yes, since Harper came to power people have really pretended not to care about things that they care about. I can tell because of how much they actually complain about things that they care about.
Please brush up on your Aesop. It is a shame to see this once noble idea abused so.
Most things are sustainable as long as you are willing to give up something else. Paying OAS to people for 25-30 years is very poor economics. First of all people are not "old" 30 years prior to their death. It's also not fair to the small percentage who are working!
Yeah ... many by Harper yes people who don't like questionable practice being questioned
How long would it take you t0 read a 400+ page of legalese? Ten, to analyse and prepare commentary on top of that.? To assess the implications for almost 60 affected laws and prior Bills. And then how hey fare when interacting.
Perhaps six months. That is what a team of lawyers would require.
This is one of the most outrageous actions ever taken by any government.
An average of 3-5 threads a day started on Harper and his government, makes me think so....
Even "Global Warming" seems to have been put on the "back burner" (pun intended) by the usual suspect...
Yeah.... Ya just gotta love costs going up at ten times the income increases while Ottawa behaves like Romper Room
Did'nt the same thing arise in the early 80's - where the Conservatives refused to attend Parliament.
Perhaps the combined Opposition should refuse to answer the bell.
Yep! It's amazing how many people just keep buying into the whole 'they're working for us' message though, isn't it?