There seems to be altogether too much discussion about this S.O.B. He's admitted guilt, everyone knows he's guilty.............stand the S.O.B. up against a wall and shoot the pr*ck!
Is the Breivik right regarding the growing Muslim threat?
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26 He who overcomes, and he who keeps My deeds until the end, TO HIM I WILL GIVE AUTHORITY OVER THE [a]NATIONS; 27 AND HE SHALL RULE THEM WITH A ROD OF IRON, AS THE VESSELS OF THE POTTER ARE BROKEN TO PIECES, as I also have received authority from My Father;
Along with the people who support the extinction of the State of Israel - But that would include you would it not?
Flights late We are already at #18 and Israel hasn't been blamed yet for the the actions of islamic terrorists.
I guess I'm getting forgetful, it would be terrible to have Breivik shoulder all the blame when for a mere few $million we can pass some of it off on someone else. We just can't having one guy take the responsiblity for 77 murders, who knows..... someone may have pissed him off! :lol:
There are still calls from the islamic community to allow sharia law in Canada.
I figure if that is what they want they should move to a repressive country that already has it. Oh poop they just came from there.
Canadian Muslims demanding Sharia law should be deported to Islamastan immediately.
CBC news reported on Breivik's trial today. Most of today's testimony was about Breivik's influences and motivations. Yet the CBC never once mentioned his irrational fear and hate towards Muslims. Curiously absent... Sort of like Breiviks irrational fear and hatred towards Muslims was a secret. I wonder how long Canada's MSM can keep Canadians from knowing why Breivik went on a murderous rampage.
Well if not the patience than at least the looks and feeding habits.
CBC news reported on Breivik's trial today. Most of today's testimony was about Breivik's influences and motivations. Yet the CBC never once mentioned his irrational fear and hate towards Muslims. Curiously absent... Sort of like Breiviks irrational fear and hatred towards Muslims was a secret. I wonder how long Canada's MSM can keep Canadians from knowing why Breivik went on a murderous rampage.
Breivik will get the maximum sentence. But identifying the sources of Breivik's irrational hate and fear of Muslims might help stop the next massacre.
Well if not the patience than at least the looks and feeding habits.
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Like Ted Bundy's mass murders prevented further incidents, or Clifford Olson's or Saddam Hussein's or Idi Amin's, like what I'm saying is DON' T HOLD YOUR BREATH! :lol:
What, you think he frightened Muslims enough to make them give up terrorism???
(sarcasm alert)
Seriously, how do you expect rationality to prevent insanity?
You really aren't dealing with reality, are you?
West silent on Muslim atrocities
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"SHUT UP. Go back to Auschwitz": That was the response from the "peace flotilla" when the Israeli broadcast a radio message warning the Turkish flotilla it was about to enter an area under naval blockade.
In another response, someone on board the "humanitarian aid convoy" replied: "We're helping the Arabs go against the US. Don't forget 9/11, guys."
After these exchanges, Israeli commandos landed on the ships. On the Mavi Marmara, they were attacked by pro-Palestinian activists wielding iron bars.
Eventually, the commandos shot back in self-defence - nine activists were killed.
It was a disaster for Israel and a triumph for those who hate Israel, Jews and the West. Bulent Yildirim, the head of the Turkish Islamist organisation IHH, which organised the flotilla, exulted in a speech to an audience he called "people of paradise": "Last night, everything in the world has changed, and everything is progressing towards Islam.
That is the reality today. Consider these words from Sheik Hussein bin Mahmud, a pseudonymous, but apparently popular commentator, in the global jihadist community.
"Everyone who has had contact with the Jews and lived alongside them, in the East and in the West, has spurned them, loathed them, and detested them, to the point where Hitler said, 'I could kill all the Jews in the world, but I left a few alive so that the entire world will know why I killed the Jews'."
Such raw hatred of Jews, let alone Israel, is commonplace in the Middle East - even without an excuse such as last week's deadly incident. The peace flotilla was no such thing. It had peaceful people aboard but its organiser, IHH, is a part of the Muslim Brotherhood, an openly terrorist organisation pledged to the destruction of Israel and the triumph of sharia law everywhere.
Scores of the "peace passengers" were Islamic militants pledged to kill Jews and secure martyrdom for themselves. Hence the confrontation with the Israeli commandos and the tragedy of the deaths on board.
That was not enough for Sheik Hussein. He declared that the Turks should, "kill every Jew in Turkey". Moreover, "Gaza does not want freedom ships bearing blonde women with Muslim, Christian, Jewish and atheist men; it wants a naval fleet and a land army bearing black Islamic banners. Gaza will not agree to a ceasefire with the Jews. On the contrary, it is thirsty and wanted to drink the blood of the sons of apes and pigs, and it is hungry and longs to devour the body parts of these cowards."
Western critics of Israel often say that they are not anti-Semitic, merely anti-Zionist. No such distinction occurs to commentators such as Sheik Hussein - Jews, Israelis, they are all "the sons of apes and pigs".
It is not surprising that such racist loathing creates a siege mentality in Israel. Worse is the fact that Israelis know that it's not just "the black Islamic banners" with which they have to contend, but also the irrational hatred of much of the rest of the world.
The realities of Gaza, Israel and the West Bank - where, with Israel's assistance, the Palestinian economy is booming - are deemed irrelevant to the conventional narrative. Israel is a cartoon villain, beyond sympathy, beyond even redemption.
What is deeply shocking - and frightening - is that the narrative the world accepts is always that of Israel the evil-doer. It was true with the so-called "Jenin Massacre" allegedly committed by the Israelis in 2002. There was no such massacre. It was a lie that was widely and uncritically propagated by the UN, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch and the BBC. It is true today.
The hatred that Israel arouses is absurd, even obscene.
One senior military source was quoted last week as saying that it did not matter what his country did; however carefully it responded to such events as the peace flotilla, it would always be condemned in the UN, on the BBC and almost everywhere else. The "bien pensants" of the West are never prepared to give Israel any benefit of any doubt.
In regard to Israel, the UN has become more of a lynch mob than a constructive debating chamber. Israel's right to defend itself is ignored. So is the fact that Iran has threatened to obliterate Israel and that the Hamas rulers of Gaza are Iranian agents also pledged to Israel's destruction.
Last week, the UN, as always, jumped instantly to the conclusions most damaging to Israel. The UN Human Rights Council, of which Iran is a member, denounced Israel for its "attacks on the flotilla of ships carrying humanitarian assistance".
Similarly, the Israeli ambassador to the EU was harangued and abused in the European parliament's foreign affairs committee. No one was interested in his explanation and when he showed images of Israeli soldiers being beaten with iron bars on the Mavi Marmara, MEPs asserted the film was faked propaganda. The only person to defend Israel at all was Charles Tannock, the Conservative MEP. (Unlike the Israeli ambassador, the Iranian ambassador was treated with courtesy.) Israel is an imperfect society (like any other) but it has extraordinary social, scientific and scholastic achievements. Despite living under endless threats, it is far closer to the liberal ideal of a free society than any other in the Middle East. But it gets no credit.
Europe prides itself on its tolerance of gay rights, free speech and feminism. These are all integral to Israeli society also, but Israel gets no credit for that. Radical Muslims on the other hand stone women, hang homosexuals and kill to deny free speech. Do Europeans protest that? Not many, not often.
Israel is held to a far higher standard than any other nation on Earth. Few people seem to care much about North Korean atrocities, at home and abroad, let alone its terrifying nuclear defiance of the world. No one marches or calls emergency meetings of the UN and the EU to protest the vicious Muslim brutality against other Muslims that takes place everyday throughout the Islamic world - and beyond.
No one demonstrates on behalf of Christians murdered in the Middle East, their churches burned down. Such horrors are waved away. Only Israel merits constant abuse. The Muslim world and the Western Left are in an unholy alliance; they do not want to improve the Jewish state - they want to remove it.
Israel has come to expect double standards from Europe and assault from the UN. Much more serious is the loss of support from the Obama administration. In his attempts to reach out to the Islamic world, Barack Obama has abandoned the US tradition of whole-hearted support for one of its principal allies. He has shown himself far more tolerant of abuses of power in the Muslim world than by mistakes of Israel.
Most recently, Obama backed a UN resolution that singled out Israel in calling for a nuclear-free Middle East. No other US president has ever done that and Israelis are understandably concerned. What Obama does not seem to understand is that his lack of support for Israel not only saps Israel. More frightening still, it emboldens Israel's enemies.
The Middle East and the world is now a more dangerous place as "the sons (and daughters) of apes and pigs" are delegitimised once again. On the way back to Auschwitz, if their enemies succeed.
William Shawcross is author of books including Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mother: The Official Biography; Queen and Country; Allies; The Shah's Last Ride and Murdoch
www.williamshawcross.com
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"SHUT UP. Go back to Auschwitz": That was the response from the "peace flotilla" when the Israeli broadcast a radio message warning the Turkish flotilla it was about to enter an area under naval blockade.
In another response, someone on board the "humanitarian aid convoy" replied: "We're helping the Arabs go against the US. Don't forget 9/11, guys."
After these exchanges, Israeli commandos landed on the ships. On the Mavi Marmara, they were attacked by pro-Palestinian activists wielding iron bars.
Eventually, the commandos shot back in self-defence - nine activists were killed.
It was a disaster for Israel and a triumph for those who hate Israel, Jews and the West. Bulent Yildirim, the head of the Turkish Islamist organisation IHH, which organised the flotilla, exulted in a speech to an audience he called "people of paradise": "Last night, everything in the world has changed, and everything is progressing towards Islam.
That is the reality today. Consider these words from Sheik Hussein bin Mahmud, a pseudonymous, but apparently popular commentator, in the global jihadist community.
"Everyone who has had contact with the Jews and lived alongside them, in the East and in the West, has spurned them, loathed them, and detested them, to the point where Hitler said, 'I could kill all the Jews in the world, but I left a few alive so that the entire world will know why I killed the Jews'."
Such raw hatred of Jews, let alone Israel, is commonplace in the Middle East - even without an excuse such as last week's deadly incident. The peace flotilla was no such thing. It had peaceful people aboard but its organiser, IHH, is a part of the Muslim Brotherhood, an openly terrorist organisation pledged to the destruction of Israel and the triumph of sharia law everywhere.
Scores of the "peace passengers" were Islamic militants pledged to kill Jews and secure martyrdom for themselves. Hence the confrontation with the Israeli commandos and the tragedy of the deaths on board.
That was not enough for Sheik Hussein. He declared that the Turks should, "kill every Jew in Turkey". Moreover, "Gaza does not want freedom ships bearing blonde women with Muslim, Christian, Jewish and atheist men; it wants a naval fleet and a land army bearing black Islamic banners. Gaza will not agree to a ceasefire with the Jews. On the contrary, it is thirsty and wanted to drink the blood of the sons of apes and pigs, and it is hungry and longs to devour the body parts of these cowards."
Western critics of Israel often say that they are not anti-Semitic, merely anti-Zionist. No such distinction occurs to commentators such as Sheik Hussein - Jews, Israelis, they are all "the sons of apes and pigs".
It is not surprising that such racist loathing creates a siege mentality in Israel. Worse is the fact that Israelis know that it's not just "the black Islamic banners" with which they have to contend, but also the irrational hatred of much of the rest of the world.
The realities of Gaza, Israel and the West Bank - where, with Israel's assistance, the Palestinian economy is booming - are deemed irrelevant to the conventional narrative. Israel is a cartoon villain, beyond sympathy, beyond even redemption.
What is deeply shocking - and frightening - is that the narrative the world accepts is always that of Israel the evil-doer. It was true with the so-called "Jenin Massacre" allegedly committed by the Israelis in 2002. There was no such massacre. It was a lie that was widely and uncritically propagated by the UN, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch and the BBC. It is true today.
The hatred that Israel arouses is absurd, even obscene.
One senior military source was quoted last week as saying that it did not matter what his country did; however carefully it responded to such events as the peace flotilla, it would always be condemned in the UN, on the BBC and almost everywhere else. The "bien pensants" of the West are never prepared to give Israel any benefit of any doubt.
In regard to Israel, the UN has become more of a lynch mob than a constructive debating chamber. Israel's right to defend itself is ignored. So is the fact that Iran has threatened to obliterate Israel and that the Hamas rulers of Gaza are Iranian agents also pledged to Israel's destruction.
Last week, the UN, as always, jumped instantly to the conclusions most damaging to Israel. The UN Human Rights Council, of which Iran is a member, denounced Israel for its "attacks on the flotilla of ships carrying humanitarian assistance".
Similarly, the Israeli ambassador to the EU was harangued and abused in the European parliament's foreign affairs committee. No one was interested in his explanation and when he showed images of Israeli soldiers being beaten with iron bars on the Mavi Marmara, MEPs asserted the film was faked propaganda. The only person to defend Israel at all was Charles Tannock, the Conservative MEP. (Unlike the Israeli ambassador, the Iranian ambassador was treated with courtesy.) Israel is an imperfect society (like any other) but it has extraordinary social, scientific and scholastic achievements. Despite living under endless threats, it is far closer to the liberal ideal of a free society than any other in the Middle East. But it gets no credit.
Europe prides itself on its tolerance of gay rights, free speech and feminism. These are all integral to Israeli society also, but Israel gets no credit for that. Radical Muslims on the other hand stone women, hang homosexuals and kill to deny free speech. Do Europeans protest that? Not many, not often.
Israel is held to a far higher standard than any other nation on Earth. Few people seem to care much about North Korean atrocities, at home and abroad, let alone its terrifying nuclear defiance of the world. No one marches or calls emergency meetings of the UN and the EU to protest the vicious Muslim brutality against other Muslims that takes place everyday throughout the Islamic world - and beyond.
No one demonstrates on behalf of Christians murdered in the Middle East, their churches burned down. Such horrors are waved away. Only Israel merits constant abuse. The Muslim world and the Western Left are in an unholy alliance; they do not want to improve the Jewish state - they want to remove it.
Israel has come to expect double standards from Europe and assault from the UN. Much more serious is the loss of support from the Obama administration. In his attempts to reach out to the Islamic world, Barack Obama has abandoned the US tradition of whole-hearted support for one of its principal allies. He has shown himself far more tolerant of abuses of power in the Muslim world than by mistakes of Israel.
Most recently, Obama backed a UN resolution that singled out Israel in calling for a nuclear-free Middle East. No other US president has ever done that and Israelis are understandably concerned. What Obama does not seem to understand is that his lack of support for Israel not only saps Israel. More frightening still, it emboldens Israel's enemies.
The Middle East and the world is now a more dangerous place as "the sons (and daughters) of apes and pigs" are delegitimised once again. On the way back to Auschwitz, if their enemies succeed.
William Shawcross is author of books including Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mother: The Official Biography; Queen and Country; Allies; The Shah's Last Ride and Murdoch
www.williamshawcross.com
The guy is crazy. For those who are so concerned, the feelings self fear are
more dangerous than the Muslims will ever be. Fear of others without it being
founded in fact will eat away at the individual and the society in general until
the system collapses from within.
I am not afraid of Muslims, as much as I am afraid of people in general who
have no conscience and already live amongst us. Even at that, fear is a strong
word. I am concerned that as a society we have gone from being an open
society to one that has embraced fear, and suspicion and that is eating away
the foundations of the great civilization we produced over time.
more dangerous than the Muslims will ever be. Fear of others without it being
founded in fact will eat away at the individual and the society in general until
the system collapses from within.
I am not afraid of Muslims, as much as I am afraid of people in general who
have no conscience and already live amongst us. Even at that, fear is a strong
word. I am concerned that as a society we have gone from being an open
society to one that has embraced fear, and suspicion and that is eating away
the foundations of the great civilization we produced over time.
One intelligent line that I would have given you a greenie for......but you had to keep writing.......
Beivik's sane enough for trial.
That means everyone is finding out that the Norwegian butcher is a product of Islamophobia.
Zaman Turkey opinion:
The manifesto proves that Breivik's ideological influences such as Bat Ye'or, Robert Spencer, Abdullah al-Arabi, Walid Shoebat and Serge Trifkovic are too responsible for the Norwegians who lost their lives.
Zaman: Turkish Viewpoint
Norwegian butcher a product of Islamophobia
I disagree with responsible. But I would agree a clear link exists between these people and Breivik's actions. But they were influences only. Breivik was bent, but he was bent a very specific way as influenced by Anti-Islam propaganda. Breivik shared their fears and hatred. He took their dire warnings of Muslim threats seriously and acted upon them.
As far as I can tell, none of these propagandists advocated violence or any act remotely resembling Breivik's actions. Breivik is an example of potential unintended consequences of rabid hate mongering...
By the way, I like vultures... very cool birds, excellent fliers...
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Feeding habits are slightly different - I have a special taste for Racists. Live ones. A little peck here, a little peck there, watch their hateful belief system fall apart.