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taxslave

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Maybe those natives should go back to their countries too. Why did the government let them in in the first place?
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Didn't you know we were just squatting on your land, patiently waiting for you to come and claim it? For about 6000 yrs. BTW What took you so long to get here?
 

Kakato

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Before the arrival of the European Immigrants, the continent now known as North America was made up of a variety of nations, just like the nations of Europe. Each of these nations had their own culture, economy, language, education, religion and government.

In the territory that would one day become known as Canada, there were about 250,000 inhabitants, with between 20,000 to 30,000 residing in semi-permanent towns and villages. They farmed, raised families, socialized, loved, hated, laughed and cried; and all belonged to the same
human race as the later European Immigrants. They studied astronomy and astrology, using the stars to assist in plant rotation and migratory trends.
 

Durry

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In the territory that would one day become known as Canada, there were about 250,000 inhabitants, with between 20,000 to 30,000 residing in semi-permanent towns and villages. .
What was the names of these towns, where were they located?
 

Cliffy

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Before the arrival of the European Immigrants, the continent now known as North America was made up of a variety of nations, just like the nations of Europe. Each of these nations had their own culture, economy, language, education, religion and government.

In the territory that would one day become known as Canada, there were about 250,000 inhabitants, with between 20,000 to 30,000 residing in semi-permanent towns and villages. They farmed, raised families, socialized, loved, hated, laughed and cried; and all belonged to the same
human race as the later European Immigrants. They studied astronomy and astrology, using the stars to assist in plant rotation and migratory trends.
There were a lot more than 250,000 inhabitants. More like a few million. At the time of Columbus' arrival there were 100 - 110 million inhabitants of the Americas. By the time the first European settlers arrived, there were less than half that and 100 years after Columbus, there were only about 10 million. By comparison, American aboriginal people were far more civilized than their European contemporaries. Europeans were not much more than barbarians crawling out of the Dark Ages.
 

Durry

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n. By comparison, American aboriginal people were far more civilized than their European contemporaries. Europeans were not much more than barbarians crawling out of the Dark Ages.
It's too bad they could not build a modern civilization. I guess it took the Europeans to do that.
 

Machjo

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It's too bad they could not build a modern civilization. I guess it took the Europeans to do that.

You call the Residential School system "modern civilization?

Had we simply traded with them as equals rather than colonize them, they'd have naturally learnt and advanced rather than all be screwed up via beatings, murders, and rapes, not what I call "civilization".
 

Durry

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they'd have naturally learnt and advanced
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Oh, the old "natural" explaination ...eh!! How come they didn't "naturally" know how to deal with the Europeans when they first came here? How come we have to teach them how to "naturally" advance their society ???
Pretty weak argument, but I guess when your grasping for an explaination, you'll grasp at almost anything..
 

Machjo

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Oh, the old "natural" explaination ...eh!! How come they didn't "naturally" know how to deal with the Europeans when they first came here? How come we have to teach them how to "naturally" advance their society ???
Pretty weak argument, but I guess when your grasping for an explaination, you'll grasp at almost anything..

Because we screwed them over in the forced residential school system, remember?
 

Durry

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When the white man came, we had the land and they had the bibles. Now they have the land and we have the bibles.
- Chief Dan George
The Chief always liked to make colourful statements. It's about as accurate as the article that you posted above.

Because we screwed them over in the forced residential school system, remember?
Where was their "natural" defense ?
 

Machjo

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The Chief always liked to make colourful statements. It's about as accurate as the article that you posted above.


Where was their "natural" defense ?

So you define civilization as "he who has the biggest guns"?
 

Durry

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So you define civilization as "he who has the biggest guns"?
When the Europeans came here to trade fur with the natives, I'm not aware they did it a the point of a gun.
Although they may have traded guns for fur.
But no, I define civilization as one who advances their society to have a more comfortable/easy life for its people.
 

Machjo

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When the Europeans came here to trade fur with the natives, I'm not aware they did it a the point of a gun.
Although they may have traded guns for fur.
But no, I define civilization as one who advances their society to have a more comfortable/easy life for its people.

To be fair, the natives did not know what alcohol was and the damage it caused. Just as we had no qualms about rading in Opium with China, we had no qualms about exploiting their ignorance of alcohol here.

As for civilization, I'd say spiritual civilization is defined by living up to the highest moral standards, including caring for one's fellow man. Material civilization is important too, but without spiritual civilization, it will cause more harm than good.
 

Durry

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To be fair, the natives did not know what alcohol was and the damage it caused. Just as we had no qualms about rading in Opium with China, we had no qualms about exploiting their ignorance of alcohol here.
As for civilization, I'd say spiritual civilization is defined by living up to the highest moral standards, including caring for one's fellow man. Material civilization is important too, but without spiritual civilization, it will cause more harm than good.
Ok, I'll be sure to tell someone who cares!! :lol:
 

Kakato

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When the white man discovered this country, Indians were running it. No taxes, no debt, women did all the work. White man thought he could improve on a system like this
 

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The people who first came to NA and build this great country were the Europeans. They build the trading system and put most of the infrastructure in place like the legal system (which is based on Christian ideology), government system, schools etc etc. Immigrants from other countries did not start coming here until most of the infrastructure was in place. This started happening after WW2.
Ever hear of the CPR and the big reason it was built?
 

#juan

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There were a lot more than 250,000 inhabitants. More like a few million. At the time of Columbus' arrival there were 100 - 110 million inhabitants of the Americas. By the time the first European settlers arrived, there were less than half that and 100 years after Columbus, there were only about 10 million. By comparison, American aboriginal people were far more civilized than their European contemporaries. Europeans were not much more than barbarians crawling out of the Dark Ages.

That is not right Cliffy.
When the white man came to Canada, he brought wool blankets, metal tools, steel traps, guns. Without these things natives had a hell of a time just surviving the northern Winters. I know the white man also brought diseases that ravaged through native tribes who had no immunity to them but white man's medical science was still learning about these things.
 

Durry

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Ever hear of the CPR and the big reason it was built?
Yes, I should have been clearer in my Post, I meant to say that the larger wave of immigrants did not start coming until after WW2. But, yes, the Chinese came here to provide labour to help build the BC portion of the RR. The Europeans provided the engineering and construction techniques for this massive project.
 

Nuggler

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For the same reason we give EI to people in regions where unemployment is 12%, people refuse work, and still get EI. Immigration is political and no longer makes economic sense.

Kenney said on the CBC he is proud the Harper govt hasn't reduced immigration levels from 250,000 per year, unlike that dastardly Chretien who reduced immigration levels when the economy slowed in the 1990s.

Kenney now finds more votes from multicultural curry Canadians than non-hypenated Canadians.

I did not immigrate from another country to live in Canada, Did you Kakato?


Thank whomever's in charge that you and Durry are not.

I thought it was the libs that started the immigration ball rolling for the votes.

the Cons have been quick to learn