By comparison, American aboriginal people were far more civilized than their European contemporaries. Europeans were not much more than barbarians crawling out of the Dark Ages.
Sure... if you want to leave out the cannibalism part.
By comparison, American aboriginal people were far more civilized than their European contemporaries. Europeans were not much more than barbarians crawling out of the Dark Ages.
Sort of like letting in immigrants to do your laundry and cleaning?When the Europeans came here to trade fur with the natives, I'm not aware they did it a the point of a gun.
Although they may have traded guns for fur.
But no, I define civilization as one who advances their society to have a more comfortable/easy life for its people.
Well we let immigrants in to fill jobs that Canadians cannot or will not fill. We get some great immigrants that wind up making great contributions to Canada.Sort of like letting in immigrants to do your laundry and cleaning?
When the white man discovered this country, Indians were running it. No taxes, no debt, women did all the work. White man thought he could improve on a system like this
Yes, I should have been clearer in my Post, I meant to say that the larger wave of immigrants did not start coming until after WW2. But, yes, the Chinese came here to provide labour to help build the BC portion of the RR. The Europeans provided the engineering and construction techniques for this massive project.
Hmmm. Ever wonder what the Europeans did with all those Barbequed witches and heretics? Why do you think everybody and his uncle showed up to watch?Sure... if you want to leave out the cannibalism part.
Hmmm. Ever wonder what the Europeans did with all those Barbequed witches and heretics? Why do you think everybody and his uncle showed up to watch?
Cannibalism was not wide spread and was usually done for ceremonial reasons (Haida). The Aztecs were the only ones who did blood sacrifice on a large scale. There were large scale civilizations in the Americas long before Europe.
There is no doubt that the Europeans were materially far more civilized than the North Americans. It's just that spirtually they weren't much more civilized if at all with their racism, imperialism, etc. That combination proved lethal for the natives.
I never said they were any better. I was countering the statement that they never developed civilizations. I think the Mound people of the US, the Olmecs, Toltecs and Mayans were fairly large and the name of the peoples that preceded the Incas. I think with 100 million people there were a few others too. And what the Spanish did to those civilizations was pretty damn barbaric, don't you think?Oh really! That would be neat to read about. You don't by chance have a link do you?
What is your definition of a large scale civilization?
Regardless of the reasons... cannibalism and human sacrifice are what they are. Not saying the Europeans were any better, but they weren't any worse.
First Nations, Native Americans, and the ancient people of Central and South America were human... just like everyone else.
True to a point. Native American tribes preyed upon each other long before the Europeans landed. In my research about the Plymouth Settlement I was surprised to learn that the Wappanoug tribe that assisted the Puritans did so because he saw a potential of a strong ally against the Narragansett tribe.
I never said they were any better. I was countering the statement that they never developed civilizations. I think the Mound people of the US, the Olmecs, Toltecs and Mayans were fairly large and the name of the peoples that preceded the Incas. I think with 100 million people there were a few others too. And what the Spanish did to those civilizations was pretty damn barbaric, don't you think?
Oh, don't confuse Durry and Dumpy with the facts of life. They can't handle anything that gets in the way of their bias.It is really very simple.
Without immigrants, Canada would be shrinking rapidly. Canadians have not replaced themselves for years. Native Canadians are either dying, or migrating to other countries, faster than children are being born. This has been going on for at least the past 30 years.
Without immigrants, Canada's population would likely be about 20,000,000 now, and shrinking every year. Now who the hell would be paying for all of the social welfare benefits in Canada, without immigrants?
you said: ."....distinguish between regular immigrants and genuine refugees." There's other 'so-called' refugees too. The people who showed up on boats, on the western shores of Vancouver, they are not genuine refugees..nor are they regular/legal immigrants..First off, we need to distinguish between regular immigrants and genuine refugees. As a rule refugees won't have money because they were oppressed. I'd rather spend money on them here than on the military abroad.
When the white man discovered this country, Indians were running it. No taxes, no debt, women did all the work. White man thought he could improve on a system like this
Nonsense? It's only been proven time and time again. The only nonsense on these pages, regarding First Nations, comes from you and Jimmy.Better than the nonsense some say about how aboriginals had a "matriarchial" system.
Oh, the old "natural" explaination ...eh!! How come they didn't "naturally" know how to deal with the Europeans when they first came here? How come we have to teach them how to "naturally" advance their society ???
Pretty weak argument, but I guess when your grasping for an explaination, you'll grasp at almost anything..
Would you please show replicas/facsimiles of your application and replies thereof?I immigrated to BC from Quebec, but I asked permission from the aboriginal inhabitants if I could stay. I don't put much faith in laws created by thieves.
We shall see how correct their science was in December.Before the arrival of the European Immigrants, the continent now known as North America was made up of a variety of nations, just like the nations of Europe. Each of these nations had their own culture, economy, language, education, religion and government.
In the territory that would one day become known as Canada, there were about 250,000 inhabitants, with between 20,000 to 30,000 residing in semi-permanent towns and villages. They farmed, raised families, socialized, loved, hated, laughed and cried; and all belonged to the same human race as the later European Immigrants. They studied astronomy and astrology, using the stars to assist in plant rotation and migratory trends.
I think his application was in the form of a handful of wampam !!!Would you please show replicas/facsimiles of your application and replies thereof?
We shall see how correct their science was in December.
Chief, you also have the casinos, and with the white man's sick addiction to gambling you can take everything back.When the white man came, we had the land and they had the bibles. Now they have the land and we have the bibles.
- Chief Dan George
What science would that be?We shall see how correct their science was in December.
What do you know of Wampum?I think his application was in the form of a handful of wampam !!!
We're working on that.Chief, you also have the casinos, and with the white man's sick addiction to gambling you can take everything back.
The Quebecois.Can someone name just ONE (1) nation/people/tribe who was treated more fairly than the North American Native people by their conquerors than the North American natives?