What I find rather telling here is that those who are belittling those who think Cheney should be kept out as leftards are the same ones who are relentlessly telling others they are stupid on another thread because they don't like their opinions. The dichotomy is rather glaring. It kinda makes me sick.
Canada is too dangerous for Dick Cheney
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He might have meant "the intelligence" as in classified info. NOT the warmongering Cheney/bush duo.
Nonsense, Colpy, your memory is short. But, perhaps you are not thinking about all of North America?
Maybe Dick would feel more comfortable if we reminded him the climate here is warm enough for pools?
we should keep that info to ourselves. Let them think we still live in igloos and tents while travelling by canoe. Love your graphic though. Almost gross /fat enough to portray cheney ..;-)
You don't really believe that , do you??? Why is it so important to keep splitting things into left and right. Face it Cheney is an all purpose war loving jack ass. ( and believe me , I am being kind) ;-)
Someone in the US started an unprovoked war of aggression, resulting in the deaths of hundredss of thousands of innocent civilians including women and children. The people responsible should be held responsible for their war crimes. Cheney is innocent until proven guilty, but I believe enough evidence exists to arrest Cheney. But until that happens, Cheney should be free to enter Canada. However, the Canadian government not only has a right to arrest war criminals, we have an obligation to do so.
What you believe is immaterial.
Evidence may exist but have the appropriate authorities designated him or Bush for that matter war criminals? For rule of law to prevail isn't it necessary to have warrant existant before you ASSUME he's a war criminal and arrest him?
Only asking because all of the bellicose protestations about a presumption of ASSUMED guilt by a morally outraged bunch of armchair critics amount to zip is it's just an opinion. Till the warrant is issued perhaps we'd be better served by maintaining our principles intact and actually follow the rule of law?
Fair enough. As long as the same law applies to people like OBL , Gadhaffi and others that were dealt another kind of "justice". Either the law applies to EVERYONE.........or we have unfair practices as the law is bent and manipulated to suit the accuser.
there are No exceptions......even though some would like that to be so just on their say so.Remember the USG has set a precident now. So things are not all black and white or even "legal"
targetted assassinations are not only for the US to use as "justice". Iraq leadership would be in their right to send an assassination squad after Cheney and Bush. as no matter how they tried to make it sound legal .....that invasion was not.
Just saying. IF we are going to preach the higher ground.........we had better live it and be an example of it to others.
there are No exceptions......even though some would like that to be so just on their say so.Remember the USG has set a precident now. So things are not all black and white or even "legal"
targetted assassinations are not only for the US to use as "justice". Iraq leadership would be in their right to send an assassination squad after Cheney and Bush. as no matter how they tried to make it sound legal .....that invasion was not.
Just saying. IF we are going to preach the higher ground.........we had better live it and be an example of it to others.
Uh, yeah, except we're talking Canada here aren't we. Lest I'm seriously confused I've no recollection of us sending a hit squad anywhere and my post was about maintaining OUR moral integrity and wait for the warrant before arresting anyone. I don't give a rat's patoot about another countries behaviour unless, of course, they send a hit squad here.
Why would you deem it appropriate that your outrage at another countries behaviour justify Canada foregoing the rule of law?
By "we" I was referring to the west ......but I stand corrected in generalizing Canada with US policies. My bad.
and yes, I am outraged at US policies , Cheney's and Bush's behaviors that have brought us this past volatile decade. Not that I can do anything about it...;-)
and yes, I am outraged at US policies , Cheney's and Bush's behaviors that have brought us this past volatile decade. Not that I can do anything about it...;-)
Nope but you can be thankful that the Canadian Govt didn't fall the bull**** like some Canadians have.
oh believe me: I truly AM. I have to admit........when Cdn Gov said NO .........I felt a warm and fuzzy sense of pride .....as it was wonderful to see someone with guts to say NO to the southern war machine.
thank goodness Harper was not in charge then.
It's funny how lack of evidence was the reason but some believe there was. I feel sorry for those people who believe there was.
I agree that Cheney should be allowed to enter Canada as our guest. I am against death threats or any violence against this likely (but unproven) war criminal. I also support the right of Canadians to peacefully protest Cheney's presence.
Someone is responsible for starting an unprovoked war which cost hundreds of billions, killed hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians and turned millions more into refugees. A thorough investigation has never been done as to how and why the Iraq war happened.
Apparently the standard of evidence is far lower when it comes to allegations regarding Hussein's WMD stockpiles and links to 9/11 allegations than it does for allegations regarding Cheney and Bush deliberately manipulating the US into an unprovoked war.
Yep....and if the gov't had decided to keep ANY ONE of them out, that would be fine with me.
we don't need a reason.
We have found some common ground with this post.
While the U.N. was founded with the best of intentions, it has now morphed into a dysfunctional organization that allows for the foxes to sit in the security council's hen-house and connot be relied upon to act diligently to adjudicate these many insurrections that percolate on what seem to be daily basis. Too many hidden agendas in that room.
I rely heavily on Canada's government of the day, in the absence of any common sense issuing from that august body of the U.N., to base any decision of joining any military action on it's testing the Canadian public's reaction and willingness to commit to whatever comes along.
In other words; we the citizens have to get darn vocal when someone starts beating the drums of war using what walks like a duck and quacks like a duck and smells like a lie as justification. WE need and owe it to ourselves to keep informed through means other than Faux News or CBC.
No....the problem is that those who are privileged enough to live in the culture that has made more people rich and free than any other civilization on earth are too stupid and lazy to understand that there is a REASON we are better off...in fact, several reasons.