We already give special status to dolphins and whales by not eating them. No one can say, "I had dolphin sushi for dinner last night."
Should dolphins and whales have the right to life, liberty and wellbeing?
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FYI-you are abysmally out of touch with culinary reality-a number of societies regularly eat Cetacean meat-Iceland, Norway & Japan come to mind.
What? Eating?
You really aren't that bright.
You don't own a silver Toyota Tacoma, with a little water damage do you?
That's all well and good, but the right to life, liberty, and well being? They're wild animals, you can't incarcerate nature for killing or maiming...sure we can make laws to protect species and their habitats, and to punish illegal hunting, but that's about as far as we should go.
Do you know that some zoos and aquariums spend money on research and habitat protection? Some take in injured animals that cannot be rehabilitated. There is nothing morally wrong about teaching people about consequences, about biology.
We are talking about beings that are very close to the top of the food chain. Porposes or dolphins seem to enjoy interacting with
humans. I don't think a dolphin has ever harmed a human but the Japanese kill hundreds every year when they get snarled in fishing nets.
Killer whales have attacked humans the odd time here and there but usually when the whales are in captive pools that are too small.
There shouldn't be any hunting of these animals.
Why? Are you personally afraid of something?
If some dolphins are just as intelligent as some humans, then why shouldn't some dolphins have the same protection as us. I'm talking about the right not to be exploited by humans... ie held in captivity or hunted as food and habitat protection. Possibly even a right to support and welfare.
I'd like to see conclusive proof of a high intelligence first before awarding human rights to non-humans.
"We affirm that all cetaceans [marine mammals including dolphins, whales and porpoises] as persons have the right to life, liberty and wellbeing."
Just who the hell do they think they are? Sounds PETA ish to me.
I never advocate either cruelty or harrassing wildlife but NO bunch of fame seeking disingenuous nanny staters is going to force their bull**** down my throat!
The regulations we have in place to protect Dolphins and Whales/Orcas are more than sufficient.
Just who the hell do they think they are? Sounds PETA ish to me.
I never advocate either cruelty or harrassing wildlife but NO bunch of fame seeking disingenuous nanny staters is going to force their bull**** down my throat!
The regulations we have in place to protect Dolphins and Whales/Orcas are more than sufficient.
So do Dogs but people eat Dog daily-this is life!
We kill thousands of cuddly Rabbits per year by logging their habitat-should we lose sleep over it?
Your precious 'Dolphins' have killed a number of humans-did you not see the post upthread about Orcinus Orca?
Says who?
Why? Are you personally afraid of something?
If some dolphins are just as intelligent as some humans, then why shouldn't some dolphins have the same protection as us. I'm talking about the right not to be exploited by humans... ie held in captivity or hunted as food and habitat protection. Possibly even a right to support and welfare.
I'd like to see conclusive proof of a high intelligence first before awarding human rights to non-humans.
How about we agree they have a better moral compass and character then yourself. Pick one and we look after that one. You go swimming. Fair to me. Make the deal?
A couple of questions of note here, Colpy you are right it would be a dangerous road to go down
Goober, if we were to attach intelligence to the aspect of human rights there are those on this
forum that should immediately be concerned from time to time, (yes I jest). The problem is we
would then have to do a study to determine which animals and maybe even plants were smart
enough to have rights. That would mean they would be off limits for eating I suppose because they
would have the right to determine whether or not they would want to be part of the food chain.
dolphins and whales are intelligent creatures that is not the point, they are subject to the will of
humans. Personally I don't think we should be whale hunting and I don't know any dolphins so
I don't care one way or another.
Goober, if we were to attach intelligence to the aspect of human rights there are those on this
forum that should immediately be concerned from time to time, (yes I jest). The problem is we
would then have to do a study to determine which animals and maybe even plants were smart
enough to have rights. That would mean they would be off limits for eating I suppose because they
would have the right to determine whether or not they would want to be part of the food chain.
dolphins and whales are intelligent creatures that is not the point, they are subject to the will of
humans. Personally I don't think we should be whale hunting and I don't know any dolphins so
I don't care one way or another.
Putting a human in a confined space and forcing them to do stupid tricks on command indefinitely would probably lead to violence. I'm surprised more captive whales and dolphins haven't killed people. Perhaps they have more compassion for us, than we do for them.
If that were the case dippers lives would not have much value.
Ever been in a government office?
