Attack on Iran would be ‘suicidal’ for U.S.: ambassador

[Ocean Breeze]

It would be more than suicidal ......it would be just plain STUPID.

There is NO evidence of the claims that are bandied about as potential threats to the west.

IF the US WANTS A WAR:

The message is clear: even though Iran has a minuscule defense budget, has never attacked anyone, and is essentially a Third World country, it is nevertheless a global menace that must be dealt with by military means if all else fails. Oh yes, and brave little Israel will do the job if President Obama doesn’t have what it takes.
The only problem with all of the above is that the United States intelligence community confirms that Iran does not have a nuclear device and has not made the political decision to build one. Even Israeli intelligence agrees. So if you want a war, what do you do when that happens? You shift your narrative and develop a new way of defining the threat. Israel and its friends have consequently initiated a major offensive both back at home and in the United States to heighten the impression that Iran poses a genuine threat to Israel, the United States, and even to world peace in general. And make no mistake about what it entails: this is a major disinformation strategy that involves diplomatic, intelligence, and media resources.

The World Turned Upside Down by Philip Giraldi -- Antiwar.com

 

[Praxius]

Iran is full of hot air. While they might be able to hit a few US bases throughout the ME, the US response would be ten fold.

So we'll punch you in the nose, but if you punch us back, we'll shoot you in the face..... self defence I suppose, even though they started it by punching the other guy in the nose.

Maybe the US's response would be 10 fold..... it probably would be.... but since when has that kind of response solved anything or made anything better for the US?

People thought it'd be a cake walk in Afghanistan against a bunch of cave dwellers using 2nd hand WWII weaponry.... Iraq was supposed to be such a breeze that Bush pulled out the "Mission Accomplished" banner a wee bit prematurely.

Iran isn't Afghanistan and Iran isn't Iraq

Maybe Iran is just fluffing up their chest and looking tough.... but I wouldn't poke sticks to try and find out.

Cuz that's all we need now.... to be dragged into yet another unnecessary war.

Yeah, starting with all those "Death to Iran" rallies we've been seeing across the U.S. Oh, wait.....

Chicken and the Egg, which came first?

Why are there so many "Death to the US" rallies around the world? it goes right back to what he just said about sovereignty.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

Good post Praxius. Refreshing to read a voice of reason.

as it stands.......who is doing the provoking??? The US/Isreal. Not defending Iran , but it is constantly being blamed for something that has not even been proven. Just like those phantom WMD in Iraq......The Phantom Nukes in Iran are an excuse for the US/Isreal to badger and provoke Iran. Then , if Iran gets really pissed off and reacts with a small military statement.....the Warloving duo will say they were attacked and justify a major military invasion on that basis.

Just because Iran's leader said some nasties about Israel...... it is up to Isreal to stop whining and just ignore it. But it along with the US keep inflaming the situation with constant threats.

The real threat in this scenario is the US / ISreal. to Iran. They would like Iran to just bow down and aquiesce passively and let the Israel /US walk all over them.

Which nation in its right mind would allow that to happen. This ongoing threat to Iran is beginning to be more stupid/foolish all the time.

It is time the US focussed on its own domestic issues and shelve their threats to Iran. Little wonder hardly any one has respect for the US . That is not the way it used to be. But as is well known......it is the author of its own reputation .... and wants it both ways.

 

[L Gilbert]

Well, I think its premature to leap to conclusions yet, one way or the other. But you folks just go right ahead and choose sides.

 

[EagleSmack]

Face it Eagle....the American government is the biggest bully in the world. If any country doesn't want to play by their rules they exert all political power and use veiled threats of force.

Funniest thing is that while the US is running around looking stupid trying to be the global policeman they are bankrupting their own country and population. Maybe they should get their own house in order.

You were saying?

At any rate. It is still funny how you choose an article of Iran threatening to say the US is threatening Iran.

People thought it'd be a cake walk in Afghanistan against a bunch of cave dwellers using 2nd hand WWII weaponry.... Iraq was supposed to be such a breeze that Bush pulled out the "Mission Accomplished" banner a wee bit prematurely.

Oh please. Afghanistan was supposed to be a cake walk? Since when? Even you must have heard about the Soviets in Afghanistan. We were supposed to get creamed there. We didn't.

Yeah second hand WWII weapons were shooting down Soviet MIGs and HINDs. Good grief.

 

[PoliticalNick]

Or Rwanda.

I keep thinking of all the ire when the US didn't go into Myanmar

No natural resources to exploit in those countries. Need I say more?

 

[CDNBear]

No natural resources to exploit in those countries. Need I say more?

Maybe you should Google "Myanmar Natural Resources". But I digress, You should probably send an urgent email to Vanoil, and let them know there are no natural resources in Rwanda.

 

[#juan]

I was reading all the replies and I forgot what the topic was: Oh yes:
Attack on Iran would be ‘suicidal’ for U.S

I remember when another Arab promised "The Mother of all Battles" and that was a fizzle as well.

 

[Cliffy]

The only reason for sanctions and threats is to drive up the price of oil by created the impression of shortages. All the other rhetoric around this issue is just smoke and mirrors to confuse sheeple so they can be fleeced even more.

 

[EagleSmack]

The only reason for sanctions and threats is to drive up the price of oil by created the impression of shortages. All the other rhetoric around this issue is just smoke and mirrors to confuse sheeple so they can be fleeced even more.

The oil companies raise the price when there is a rain storm in the Gulf of Mexico.

 

[Cliffy]

The oil companies raise the price when there is a rain storm in the Gulf of Mexico.

Or one of their oil rigs blows up. We're looking at a rise to the former all time highs of the past which I believe were above $200 US at one time recently. What is it at today and what was it last year?

 

[EagleSmack]

Or one of their oil rigs blows up. We're looking at a rise to the former all time highs of the past which I believe were above $200 US at one time recently. What is it at today and what was it last year?

Who knows. I don't know why we subsidize them. Profits in the billions. Nevertheless if they weren't subsidized then gas would be at $5 a gallon easily. They are so used to welfare to boost their profit margins that they will make it up somehow.

 

[DurkaDurka]

So we'll punch you in the nose, but if you punch us back, we'll shoot you in the face..... self defence I suppose, even though they started it by punching the other guy in the nose.

Maybe the US's response would be 10 fold..... it probably would be.... but since when has that kind of response solved anything or made anything better for the US?

People thought it'd be a cake walk in Afghanistan against a bunch of cave dwellers using 2nd hand WWII weaponry.... Iraq was supposed to be such a breeze that Bush pulled out the "Mission Accomplished" banner a wee bit prematurely.

Iran isn't Afghanistan and Iran isn't Iraq

Maybe Iran is just fluffing up their chest and looking tough.... but I wouldn't poke sticks to try and find out.

Cuz that's all we need now.... to be dragged into yet another unnecessary war.



Chicken and the Egg, which came first?

Why are there so many "Death to the US" rallies around the world? it goes right back to what he just said about sovereignty.

Who said anything about invading the country? NATO could easily reign massive destruction from the air without having to lay a boot into Iran.

I'm in no mood for another war but Iran seems intent on going that route.

 

[lone wolf]

Face it.... It's a great way to get all new infrastructure at the occupier's expense

 

[EagleSmack]

Face it.... It's a great way to get all new infrastructure at the occupier's expense

LMAO. So true! And we'll leave enough armor behind for a few regiments!

 

[Praxius]

Who said anything about invading the country? NATO could easily reign massive destruction from the air without having to lay a boot into Iran.

Which will then make Iran respond by attacking them back in some fashion or another, which will then lead to another war.

Do you think any country would just accept another country bombing the crap out of them and just let it slide?

I'm in no mood for another war but Iran seems intent on going that route.

No, Israel, the US, Canada and the UK all seem intent on going that route.

There's no factual evidence confirming Iran is working on Nuclear weapons.... our leaders are just saying that they are and we're just supposed to accept those claims at face value like most did with Iraq and those wonderful aerial photos of rooftops of hangers and us all being told the WMD's are inside "here"

There were no actual photos or proof that WMD's were in those hangers... we were just told they were and people sucked it up and went to war over such crap.

But the US and Israel don't even have photos of hangers or photos of any kind..... they're just telling us that they're working on nukes and they must be stopped.

Fool me once, shame on you.... fool me twice, shame on me.

No wait.... I wasn't even fooled the first time and I called BS on the whole Iraq WMD fiasco.... turned out I was right, as were many others around the world.

If a war starts with Iran, we will all know full well who started it, and it'll be the same jokers who started the last two wars.

 

[PoliticalNick]

Who said anything about invading the country? NATO could easily reign massive destruction from the air without having to lay a boot into Iran.

I'm in no mood for another war but Iran seems intent on going that route.

Just how do you guage their intentions? Is it because they are not bowing down to lick the boots of the oh-so-great USA and give up their sovereignty to comply with western demands and interference.

Iran is a sovereign nation and has every right under international law to govern itself how it sees fit and even produce nuclear weapons if it wants. No other country has the right to say different.

 

[Just the Facts]

IF the US WANTS A WAR:

If the US wanted a war it would be over already.

 

[lone wolf]

I bet the tune changes if they happen to be nutty enough to actually detonate one and irradiate your carrots

 

[Highball]

If the US goes to war again who will finance them? China owns the majority of the US Bearer Bonds, Britain, Germany and Italy are almost bankrupt. The UN efforts in Afghanistan are whjat keeps that comnflict going. The US right now has a big decisoon to make. 1) Keep theur nose out of other nations business. OR 2) Get in line and get ready to be the third rate power they are rapidly becoming. Right now he US is almost financially destitute.