Our cooling world

[MHz]

Nothing wrong with burning tires. Good way to recycle them. I don't know if you can get a residential sized furnace that can do it but industrial ones do.

They also make a good structural support for a retaining walls once they are riveted together, buried or unburied they would last forever. If filled with foam and plastered with clay in and out it might even work as a windowless wall in a house that would withstand a direct hit from a tank shell.

 

[Angstrom]

Its not getting hotter or colder. What is happening though, is, Its going from hot to cold much more wildly and that's going to cause weather to be more extreme and potentially dangerous for all living things on earth.


That's the effect we are having on earth.
We make weather un-stable. nothing more.

 

[Cliffy]

Its not getting hotter or colder. What is happening though, is, Its going from hot to cold much more wildly and that's going to cause weather to be more extreme and potentially dangerous for all living things on earth.

That's the effect we are having on earth.
We make weather un-stable. nothing more.

There is a school of thought that says life/reality is exactly what we believe it is. If the weather is unstable, then it must be a reflection of the state of the human mind as a whole.

 

[JLM]

Its not getting hotter or colder. What is happening though, is, Its going from hot to cold much more wildly and that's going to cause weather to be more extreme and potentially dangerous for all living things on earth.


That's the effect we are having on earth.
We make weather un-stable. nothing more.

These global warming/cooling trends take place over a millenium or more, not 10 years like a lot of people seem to think. :roll:

 

[Tonington]

These global warming/cooling trends take place over a millenium or more, not 10 years like a lot of people seem to think. :roll:

Who thinks that?

 

[JLM]

Who thinks that?

I would guess most everyone who has been talking about it for the past 5 years. :smile:

 

[Angstrom]

These global warming/cooling trends take place over a millenium or more, not 10 years like a lot of people seem to think. :roll:

You don't look like you understand at all what I'm saying.
I'm saying that one day to the next, weather will vary wildly like a seesaw.

I agree with you on the global warming/cooling.

There is a school of thought that says life/reality is exactly what we believe it is. If the weather is unstable, then it must be a reflection of the state of the human mind as a whole.

I don't want to give the human mind that much credit,
I don't think where that amazing. I See us more like simple little compost bugs

but who knows, maybe.

 

[Tonington]

I would guess most everyone who has been talking about it for the past 5 years. :smile:

There are certainly some who would like us to focus on only the last ten years or so...try the first post in this thread...

Prepare for Cooling, not Warming
By Dr. Tim Ball Friday, October 5, 2007


By Dr. Tim Ball and Tom Harris
The world is cooling. Global temperatures have declined since 1998 and a growing number of climate experts expect this trend to continue until at least 2030. This, happening while carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions continue to rise, is in complete contradiction to the theory of human-induced (anthropogenic) global warming (AGW). The CBC and other die-hard AGW proponents respond by publicizing selected glacial melts and the impact of dramatic but improbable sea level rises, the only warming issues that seem to grab public attention.

Also you are mistaken about the time required. Climate change does not require millenia. There's no set rule for how long it will take, the climate responds to climate forcings...that's physics. The universe is governed by cause and effect, and things can change very rapidly. Google "Dansgaard-Oeschger Events" to see how fast climate can change.

 

[Cliffy]

I don't want to give the human mind that much credit,
I don't think where that amazing. but who knows, maybe.

We are but we have been lied to for so long that we are powerless and need smarter people to lead us around by the hand. It isn't true. The human mind is the most powerful tool on this planet.

 

[petros]

Google "

Dansgaard-Oeschger Events" to see how fast climate can change.

The processes behind the timing and amplitude of these

events (as recorded in ice cores) are still unclear. The pattern in the Southern
Hemisphere is different, with slow warming and much smaller temperature
fluctuations. Indeed, the Vostok ice core was drilled before the Greenland
cores, and the existence of Dansgaard–Oeschger events was not widely recognised
until the Greenland (GRIP/GISP2) cores were done; after which there was some
reexamination of the Vostok core to see if these events had somehow been
"missed]

The events appear to reflect changes in the North Atlantic ocean circulation, perhaps triggered by an influx of fresh water.

The events may be caused by an amplification of solar forcings, or by a cause internal to the earth system - either a "binge-purge" cycle of ice sheets accumulating so much mass they become unstable, as postulated for Heinrich events, or an oscillation in deep ocean currents (Maslin et al.. 2001, p25).

Ethical ice cores?

 

[Tonington]

Ethical

ice

cores

?

Gobbledygook? Or crack in your cereal?

 

[petros]

Or crack in your cereal?

Cracked wheat.

 

[petros]

Volcanic activity behind Little Ice Age

 

[Locutus]

Data Suggests Climate Entering 30 Year Cooling Period, Perhaps Longer



Ongoing sea temperature readings suggest that global heat content has stabilised over the past 15 years -- despite an 8.5% rise in atmospheric CO2 levels. Ongoing observations are diverging significantly from James Hansen's IPCC model projections, as seen below. Some observers of climate data are expecting the Earth to pass through at least a 30 year climate cooling period.

more

Al Fin: Data Suggests Climate Entering 30 Year Cooling Period, Perhaps Longer



Oh and...

The scariest 5 charts about climate change you will see until the next hurricane, or heat wave, or flood, or drou-ah fark it. EVERYBODY PANIC

and...

Britain faces coldest winter in 100 years due to (spins wheel). Ah, global warming

 

[DaSleeper]

I Believe , I Believe, I Believe:smile:

 

[petros]

Brrrr

 

[#juan]

I checked only a half dozen cities in B.C. and Environment Canada has been reporting
temperatures generally about 2 to 4 degrees warmer than normal for the last couple months.
Maybe B.C. has their own private global warming system.......

 

[petros]

Maybe B.C. has their own private global warming system.......

It shouldn't, you pay carbon taxes.

 

[#juan]

It shouldn't, you pay carbon taxes.

Actually, I wouldn't mind a bit of warming and a lot less rain. Who do you talk to about this?:smile:

 

[L Gilbert]

I Believe , I Believe, I Believe:smile:

Yeah, global warming ain't here today either. Musta shifted over to the southern hemisphere for a while.