Occupy Wall Street Fail

petros

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a commentator writes:

'' veterans exercising their second amendment rights protecting others first amendment rights what a beautiful thing''


The Constitution applies to all Americans. Therefore, OWS and all of its related movements have the right to exercise 1st and 2d Amendment solutions just like all else. That's what the armed veteran said and what the film maker (a right winger) said as well. Let's have all forum conservatives (that is, if they are TRUE conservatives) stand up and affirm it.
I saw a veteran from Halifax comment about "occupy" that said it all. " I don't feel their presence will hinder Rememberance Day ceremonies in Halifax. Their rights are what I fought to protect".
 

Cliffy

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One more angle has just occurred to me about this counter productive charade, the huge costs incurred in extra policing, fire chief inspections, clean up crews etc. that will be dumped on their fellow citizens who pay property taxes each year, but they don't give a damn, tents aren't assessed.
The policing costs have less to do with the protestors actions or protecting the public from protestors and more to do with suppressing freedom. Big brother will stick you with the bill for maintaining the ruling class' strangle hold on your freedom. You have a right to be a slave or you can join the revolution. As the government for an accounting of the cost of stifling free speech, figure out what percentage of your tax dollar goes into police thuggery and refuse to pay that percentage of your taxes.

I have been hearing about a tax revolt since I was a kid but I have yet to see it. Perhaps the time is finally here.
 

CDNBear

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The Constitution applies to all Americans. Therefore, OWS and all of its related movements have the right to exercise 1st and 2d Amendment solutions just like all else. That's what the armed veteran said and what the film maker (a right winger) said as well. Let's have all forum conservatives (that is, if they are TRUE conservatives) stand up and affirm it.
Has anyone on this forum advocated restricting the occupiers first and second amendment rights, right or left?
 

ironsides

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The policing costs have less to do with the protestors actions or protecting the public from protestors and more to do with suppressing freedom. Big brother will stick you with the bill for maintaining the ruling class' strangle hold on your freedom. You have a right to be a slave or you can join the revolution. As the government for an accounting of the cost of stifling free speech, figure out what percentage of your tax dollar goes into police thuggery and refuse to pay that percentage of your taxes.

I have been hearing about a tax revolt since I was a kid but I have yet to see it. Perhaps the time is finally here.

What freedoms are you talking about. No one is interfering with freedom of speech or assembly for that matter. Camping and destroying private and public property is another matter. Police still have to see to the safety of the protesters as well as the others who have to cross through this mess going to work so their tax dollar can pay for the protesters so called rights. First you have to pay taxes before you can revolt against them.
 

JLM

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The policing costs have less to do with the protestors actions or protecting the public from protestors and more to do with suppressing freedom. Big brother will stick you with the bill for maintaining the ruling class' strangle hold on your freedom. You have a right to be a slave or you can join the revolution. As the government for an accounting of the cost of stifling free speech, figure out what percentage of your tax dollar goes into police thuggery and refuse to pay that percentage of your taxes.

I have been hearing about a tax revolt since I was a kid but I have yet to see it. Perhaps the time is finally here.

In this case Cliff, I see it as extending freedoms much further than what is necessary rather than suppressing it. No one preventing them speaking or assembling. If they'd said their piece and packed it up after a day they would have had far more support. Now they've reached the point of just being loud, obnoxious, getting in people's faces while the rest of us don't have an inkling what the likes of Bill Gates and Warren Buffet have done to them.
 

Just the Facts

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The fun just never ends with these people:

The $700-per-night W Hotel Downtown last week hosted both Peter Dutro, one of a select few OWS members on the powerful finance committee, and Brad Spitzer, a California-based analyst who not only secretly took part in protests during a week-long business trip but offered shelter to protesters in his swanky platinum-card room.

Golden tents for some Occupiers - NYPOST.com
 

Locutus

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Just to expand on JTF's post. This is good.

Occupy Wall Street protesters stay at $700-a-night hotel



Hell no, we won’t go — unless we get goose down pillows.

A key Occupy Wall Street leader and another protester who leads a double life as a businessman ditched fetid tents and church basements for rooms at a luxurious hotel that promises guests can “unleash [their] inner Gordon Gekko,” The Post has learned.

The $700-per-night W Hotel Downtown last week hosted both Peter Dutro, one of a select few OWS members on the powerful finance committee, and Brad Spitzer, a California-based analyst who not only secretly took part in protests during a week-long business trip but offered shelter to protesters in his swanky platinum-card room.



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Golden tents for some Occupiers - NYPOST.com
 

Locutus

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Hard to beat this douchebaggery today:



The Portland Police Department is asking the public for information about the identity of the person involved in punching a police horse in the face during Thursday's Occupy Portland riots.
During the violence that day a protester struck a police horse in the face. The Porland police released this video:
(The horse is punched at the 37 second mark)

Protestor Strikes Portland Police Horse - YouTube


Portland PD Release Video of #Occupy Protester Punching Police Horse in Face - HUMAN EVENTS




Occupy protester busted with handgun and ammo, in more arrests at Zuccotti




Media Blames Negative #OWS Reports on Lobbying Firm


After over 4,000 arrests, the constant street violence, the drug use, vandalism, rapes, public pooping, ring worm outbreaks, attacks on children and death... The media is blaming a lobbying firm for the bad press surrounding the Obama-endorsed #OWS movement.
The AFP reported:
A top US lobbying firm tied to the financial industry pitched a $850,000 plan to smear the Occupy Wall Street movement and discredit sympathetic politicians, MSNBC television reported Saturday. A memo written on the letterhead of well-known Washington lobbying firm Clark Lytle Geduldig & Cranford urged the American Bankers Association (ABA), a client, to conduct "opposition research" on Occupy Wall Street in order to construct "negative narratives" about the protests and its political backers.​
Warning that the movement could lead to weakened support for Wall Street among both Democratic and Republican politicians, the four-page memo targeted specific states where the outcome of 2012 elections could have a major impact on the financial sector.​
If Democrats make the OWS movement's anti-capitalist message a centerpiece of their campaigns, "this would mean more than just short-term political discomfort for Wall Street," said the memo posted on MSNBC's website. "It has the potential to have very long-lasting political, policy and financial impacts on the companies in the center of the bullseye."​
Occupy Wall Street has insisted it wants to remain independent.​
Yup. It's the lobbyist's fault.




Oh Brother... Media Blames Negative #OWS Reports on Lobbying Firm - HUMAN EVENTS




 

gopher

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" I don't feel their presence will hinder Rememberance Day ceremonies in Halifax. Their rights are what I fought to protect"
Good to know that all in this forum are in accord that OWS has the right to appear in those rallies and that everyone also can access 2d Amendment solutions to the problem of police brutality and the actions of agent provocateurs.

By the way, did you notice on that video how the armed patriot had his weapons directed at the police, not at the protesters? Too bad the provocateurs didn't appear at that meeting as I would have loved to see him taking action against them. As Jefferson wrote so many years ago, ''The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.''

Not only do we need more movements like OWS, we need more patriots like that armed veteran in that video. And these folks, too:

VETERANS FOR OWS « The Burning Platform


 

Locutus

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Occupy Toronto protesters must leave park



A judge has ruled that Occupy Toronto protesters must end their five-week long encampment at a downtown park.
Superior Court Justice David Brown’s ruling, issued just after 9 a.m. on Monday, upholds eviction notices issued last week by city bylaw officers to protesters who have been camping at St. James Park since Oct. 15.




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Occupy Toronto protesters must leave park - Toronto - CBC News




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Icarus27k

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Hard to beat this douchebaggery today:



The Portland Police Department is asking the public for information about the identity of the person involved in punching a police horse in the face during Thursday's Occupy Portland riots.
During the violence that day a protester struck a police horse in the face. The Porland police released this video:
(The horse is punched at the 37 second mark)

Protestor Strikes Portland Police Horse - YouTube


Portland PD Release Video of #Occupy Protester Punching Police Horse in Face - HUMAN EVENTS




Occupy protester busted with handgun and ammo, in more arrests at Zuccotti




Media Blames Negative #OWS Reports on Lobbying Firm


After over 4,000 arrests, the constant street violence, the drug use, vandalism, rapes, public pooping, ring worm outbreaks, attacks on children and death... The media is blaming a lobbying firm for the bad press surrounding the Obama-endorsed #OWS movement.
The AFP reported:
A top US lobbying firm tied to the financial industry pitched a $850,000 plan to smear the Occupy Wall Street movement and discredit sympathetic politicians, MSNBC television reported Saturday. A memo written on the letterhead of well-known Washington lobbying firm Clark Lytle Geduldig & Cranford urged the American Bankers Association (ABA), a client, to conduct "opposition research" on Occupy Wall Street in order to construct "negative narratives" about the protests and its political backers.​
Warning that the movement could lead to weakened support for Wall Street among both Democratic and Republican politicians, the four-page memo targeted specific states where the outcome of 2012 elections could have a major impact on the financial sector.​
If Democrats make the OWS movement's anti-capitalist message a centerpiece of their campaigns, "this would mean more than just short-term political discomfort for Wall Street," said the memo posted on MSNBC's website. "It has the potential to have very long-lasting political, policy and financial impacts on the companies in the center of the bullseye."​
Occupy Wall Street has insisted it wants to remain independent.​
Yup. It's the lobbyist's fault.




Oh Brother... Media Blames Negative #OWS Reports on Lobbying Firm - HUMAN EVENTS







Locutus really likes to read those right-wing blogs.
 

Locutus

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Meanwhile, in England:


Occupy London protestors defecate in church. Pew pew pew


Desecration, defecation and class A drugs: Children found living in squalor at St Paul's protest camp



  • 'Several' children, one as young as 9, thought to be living on the site
  • Human waste found in grounds and in the cathedral itself
  • Graffiti scratched and painted on great west doors
  • Class A drugs seized by police as camp requests official sharps bin to dispose of hypodermic needles
  • Dogs roam freely among the tents, heavily fouling the area
  • Growing threats of violence amid reports two women had to hide in a portable toilet to escape attack
  • City of London files papers ahead of court battle to evict protesters
  • Convicted sex offender arrested on cathedral site
  • Half of school parties cancel trips to the cathedral and the number of drop-in visitors has plummeted

Read more: Occupy London: Children found living in squalor at St Paul's protest camp | Mail Online