Gaddafi captured as he fled Sirte

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Were there atrocities committed besides the ones committed by Kadaffy himself?

Oh come on. Do you need diagrams?? , photos?? You saw the video and photo. ASSASSINATIONS are atrocious , regardless of who does them.

Question: to all here: Why are such behaviors (assassinations ) conducted by other nations illegal, horrifying and atrocious and yet ok for some , when done by the "west". Atrocious behaviors / acts are atrocious , regardless of who commits them.

Seems that some have a serious problem with their own ethical and moral compass. The issue seems to be that they can "justify" just about any atrocity to themselves as they rationalize their views. People have done this since humans walked up right. We have seen it in Germany, Russia and other places where so many horrors took place.

No one is defending Gadhafi . But one MUST defend the law and cvilized conduct or we are no better than those we assassinate./slaughter.
 

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Oh come on. Do you need diagrams?? , photos?? You saw the video and photo. ASSASSINATIONS are atrocious , regardless of who does them.

Question: to all here: Why are such behaviors (assassinations ) conducted by other nations illegal, horrifying and atrocious and yet ok for some , when done by the "west". Atrocious behaviors / acts are atrocious , regardless of who commits them.

Seems that some have a serious problem with their own ethical and moral compass. The issue seems to be that they can "justify" just about any atrocity to themselves as they rationalize their views. People have done this since humans walked up right. We have seen it in Germany, Russia and other places where so many horrors took place.

No one is defending Gadhafi . But one MUST defend the law and cvilized conduct or we are no better than those we assassinate./slaughter.

Simple, the aggressor establishes the rules, if they are blowing plane loads of innocent civilians out of the sky, you don't try to remedy the situation with a round table chat.
 

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Simple, the aggressor establishes the rules, if they are blowing plane loads of innocent civilians out of the sky, you don't try to remedy the situation with a round table chat.

Yes, that IS simple. The aggressor NEVER establishes the rules. Criminals do no establish the rules. IF that were the case, then they have been granted a lot more power than they already take for themselves.

No one is talking about round table chats and that is plain silly. Both he and OBL were in such close proximity that they could have been captured and brought to an international court of law.....and handled in the civilized manner we preach about practicing.

If those that located him are so incopentant that they could not have arrested him , handcuffed him and read him his rights..... then they are a sorry lot indeed. and should not even be there.

No.......this was an act of barbarism. No amount of "justification" or "rationalizing" can change that.

Strange that when they located SH , he was arrested and brought to a form of justice. It was a tad sloppy .........but at least they tried to follow the law.
 

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Do you know what they are?

This oughta be good.
 

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The faces of the leaders of ‘world democracies’ are so happy, as if they remembered how they hanged stray cats in basements in their childhoods,” Russian envoy to NATO and the leader of the Congress of Russian Communities, Dmitry Rogozin, wrote in his twitter status on Friday.
This statement apparently is a reply to the international reaction to the death of Colonel Muammar Gaddafi, who was killed as the forces of the National Transitional Council stormed the town of Sirte on Thursday.

* Gaddafi Death: Russian Envoy Slams 'Sadistic' Triumphalism* :* Information Clearing House

He has a point. and then there is the bit about Clinton laughing about him being dead. "we came, we saw, he died"........is the quote from her. They should carve that on some mountain close to the presidential faces. You think??

Lots of sadistic words, deeds for what is supposed to be a civilized nation.



sadistic triumphalism.......... how appropriate a term for what we read on here and what we see in the media about this most recent act of inhumanity.
 
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I am well aware there are rules of engagement. Are you that simple that you can't understand: Rules are for fools when the other guy wants to cheat.

When did Rules of Engagement begin to apply to rebels anyhow?


so what you are saying is that "we" or the west should behave as they do??? Seems the ones that are fools are those that want to make what we used to consider civilized ......UNCIVILIZED and behaving like those they claim are criminals.

an eye for an eye makes both parties blind. Unless they were blind to begin with. Just sayin...

I guess all of us non violent folks must be rather simple in your eyes. So be it.
 

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so what you are saying is that "we" or the west should behave as they do??? Seems the ones that are fools are those that want to make what we used to consider civilized ......UNCIVILIZED and behaving like those they claim are criminals.

an eye for an eye makes both parties blind. Unless they were blind to begin with. Just sayin...

I guess all of us non violent folks must be rather simple in your eyes. So be it.
Your accusation. Go with it. Cherry pick all you want. Now try reading with your brain in gear.

Who pulled the trigger, Mary?
 

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Your accusation. Go with it. Cherry pick all you want. Now try reading with your brain in gear.

Who pulled the trigger, Mary?

Does not matter. Ask who orchestrated it and then you are probing the situation in a reasonable way.. Ask too, why Clinton and other hi echelon US politicians are engaging in such "triumphalism "??? by doing so , they are virtually taking credit for all that has happened there. Isn't that the usual pattern ???

(an aside: is it your nature to be so nasty?? IF so, then it is not hard to compute that you would support targetted assassinations , and other forms of barbaric "justice" Not sure who Mary is or how she factors in your post about the murder of Gadhaffi )

just saying.........