9-11-ten yrs Later

Colpy

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A skeptic questions generally accepted conclusions.

A truther rejects generally accepted conclusions.

Different in my book.

Yeah....

A skeptic questions every generally accepted conclusion.

A Truther trades one set of accepted conclusions for another.......
 

SLM

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Yeah....

A skeptic questions every generally accepted conclusion.

A Truther trades one set of accepted conclusions for another.......

Put another way, one could say that there are no stupid questions but there are stupid answers.
 

DaSleeper

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A skeptic questions generally accepted conclusions.

A truther rejects generally accepted conclusions.

Different in my book.

A thruther will accept conspiracy theories first and foremost over official statements....while a sceptic will simply ask for more proof.
 

EagleSmack

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The Titanic sunk by an iceberg? What garbage. When was the last time you've seen ice split steel. And the Titanic was in two pieces... clearly it was blown in half. Ice just doesn't do that.
 

SLM

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A thruther will accept conspiracy theories first and foremost over official statements....while a sceptic will simply ask for more proof.

Yes, and in a broader sense of the term "skeptical" ,it goes hand in hand with asking questions, which is never, ever wrong,imho. A person doesn't know what they don't know. Hence why there are no stupid questions, assuming of course one is asking a question to actually gain information.

Truther, to my understanding, has no broader definition outside of 9/11 (I believe the term was coined specifically with regards to 9/11? I may be wrong) but can be compared to any situation where conclusions comes before questions. That's specious reasoning.
 

JLM

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The Titanic sunk by an iceberg? What garbage. When was the last time you've seen ice split steel. And the Titanic was in two pieces... clearly it was blown in half. Ice just doesn't do that.

As surprising as that is to me, it's quite a bit different than the two towers of the W.T.C. - the planes that flew into them were actually observed and I would imagine the remains of the wreckage was recovered later! :smile:
 

SLM

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The Titanic sunk by an iceberg? What garbage. When was the last time you've seen ice split steel. And the Titanic was in two pieces... clearly it was blown in half. Ice just doesn't do that.

Oh c'mon! The Titanic never sank! Clearly the story of it's sinking was a diverson perpetrated by the a joint task force of the Illuminati and the Masons so that they might take command of the ship and use it for their own nefarious purposes!

I believe Elvis is currently the captain.

;)
 

CDNBear

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The "claims" were made by FBI post conclusion of their investigation.
Fair enough.

Mixed materials like alumium, copper and fuel?
Polyester, paper, cotton, monodiisosynate, and so on, make a plane fire, a mixed fire. Do you want to get into a discussion on PFOS and PFOA surfactant foams?

The instant water hit it those firemen would have been toast in a hydrogen explosion and not hosing it down as stated in the link supplied by DaS. You can't tell me those firefighters didn't read their OSHA manual and pass the test without knowing that.
Ya, I'll run down to Baldwin, the next time the boys from the local FD are training to extinguish a plane crash. And demand they only use Class D agent.

As for what I believe? I believe there are some big ass pieces missing because those in charge of the airspace did what they had to do.
That is a plausible possibility. Given the circumstances, why do you think the powers that be, would deny such an action?

And how does the wing box play into that?
 

petros

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Polyester, paper, cotton, monodiisosynate, and so on, make a plane fire, a mixed fire. Do you want to get into a discussion on PFOS and PFOA surfactant foams?

Ya, I'll run down to Baldwin, the next time the boys from the local FD are training to extinguish a plane crash. And demand they only use Class D agent.

That is a plausible possibility. Given the circumstances, why do you think the powers that be, would deny such an action?
Boeing doesn't use fire retardant material for their seats and interior materials? Does the FAA know this? While in Baldwin ask how many times they've simulated their fires using an old propane tank with window cut outs or can airport that size can afford to burn whole aluminum aircraft instead? Why wouldn't they keep it quiet and embellish on heroism? Maybe Lynch can answer that one for you?

Why is the wing box important? It's MIA. Well I guess there is a first time for everything huh?
 

DaSleeper

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Boeing doesn't use fire retardant material for their seats and interior materials? Does the FAA know this? While in Baldwin ask how many times they've simulated their fires using an old propane tank with window cut outs or can airport that size can afford to burn whole aluminum aircraft instead? Why wouldn't they keep it quiet and embellish on heroism? Maybe Lynch can answer that one for you?

Why is the wing box important? It's MIA. Well I guess there is a first time for everything huh?

Again I ask...what is your theory on that? Do you have one? or are you just blowing smoke?
 

CDNBear

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Boeing doesn't use fire retardant material for their seats and interior materials?
I said that?

Do you really want to start making up, things I didn't say, this early in the conversation to avoid having to either back up your claim or concede to fact?

While in Baldwin ask how many times they've simulated their fires using an old propane tank with window cut outs or can airport that size can afford to burn whole aluminum aircraft instead?
Whole Cessna's. Brought up from an aircraft grave yard in Markham. Complete with fuel, interior and luggage. The only thing usually missing is the engine, electronics, and flight controls.

Practicing on something that isn't going to act/react, like the real deal, is a waste of time.

Why wouldn't they keep it quiet and embellish on heroism?
Don't know, that's why I asked.

Why is the wing box important?
Why is it important to your theory?

Again I ask...what is your theory on that? Do you have one? or are you just blowing smoke?
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What do you have? I followed your link. It lead to no where. What else have you got?
Why is it so hard for you to answer that question petros?