IF we were surrounding Japan with a massive military build up and threatening them as the Arab nations were threatening Israel I'd say that a first attack by Japan would have been justified.
Alas we were in no position to threaten Japan and the Japanese had to sail a long way to attack the fleet as it sat completely at rest.
A blockade is certainly an act of war. And yes, a first strike is an act of war and Israel chose not to wait and give up the initiative. Afterall, this was going to be a war that would decide their annihilation.
We're sore losers? I think we won that war. Do you disagree?
I was referring to the Battle of Pearl Harbor, which the Americans lost, not the entire war.
Before Japan attack the US in 1941, the US and most of the west had imposed a series of economic embargoes which severely limited Japan's access to oil, steel, and many other raw materials required to maintain their economy. Also in July 1941, the US froze/seized all Japanese assets. Then the US moved their Pacific fleet from San Diego to Hawaii, which is much closer to Japan. Sounds provocative to me.
I suggest you learn more about your country's history:
How Franklin Roosevelt Lied America Into War
Are these actions acts of war or not? Seems to me you have a double standard when it comes to what is and isn't an act of war.
IMO, provocative economic and military acts like the US did against Japan and the Arab states against Israel aren't acts of war, but they can be justifications for war. BTW, my beef here isn't with Japan or Israel attacking without warning. IMO, both the Americans (in 1941) and the Arabs (in 1967) made serious tactical errors which the Japanese (1941) and the Israelis (1967) exploited. All's fair in love and war.... My beef is how Colpy describes the 1967 war as being started by the Arabs, when in fact the war started when Israelis bombed Arab airfields and their armies crossed into Arab territory. If the war started when Arab leaders started making belligerent statements about Israel or when they imposed their blockade, then it would be the 1966 war or the 1965 war and it would not be described as the 1967 war or the 6 day war.
That is BS, Earth as One, and you know it.
The Arab nations began a program of persecution of Jews......seized property, banned emigration, Oh just
WHY DO I BOTHER???
Put it this way, in pretending the Arab pogrom against its Jewish populations DID NOT happen, you let the mask slip, and reveal the real Jew-hater inside.
Do some research, you are making a damn fool of yourself.
Sorry Colpy, but I'm having trouble following your logic. Please explain how forcing people to leave (ethnic cleansing) is the same as forcing people to stay (banning emigration). According to my logic they are contradictory.
I could have sworn I just wrote a post recently describing how and why Arab Jews were discriminated against:
...Unfortunately these innocent Arab Jews became the target of irrational fear and hate. (Not so different than the way many Westerners including Canadians irrationally hate and fear innocent Muslims today) Unlike Canada, some of these countries passed discriminatory laws against Jews during the late 1940's and early 50's similar to the discriminatory laws Israel has today against non-Jews. Similar to the way Israel treats their Arab citizens, many Arab countries also treated their Jewish citizens as second class citizens, stole Jewish property and even practiced forced assimilation like Canada did to children of First Nation peoples. I would agree that these Jews are ethnic cleansing victims and deserve compensation...
http://forums.canadiancontent.net/i...ral-dead-many-wounded-bus-24.html#post1467301
I'm not sure I would describe every case of Jewish discrimination in an Arab country as a "pogrom", but yes I agree that some incidents could be described as pogroms. You are aware that life for a Jew in an Arab country became a lot more difficult
after Zionist Jews started their ethnic cleansing war,
after many Zionist Arab Jews provided material support for their country's enemies and
after some Arab Jews fought with Zionists against their own country. Arab irrational fear and hate against Jews became a lot more common
after Zionists started their ethnic cleansing war, not before. One series of events happened first (Zionist ethnic cleansing) and the other series of events (irrational fear and hate towards Jews) were a consequence of the previous series of event. You are trying to put the cart in front of the horse or beside the horse, when clearly the horse should be in front of the cart....
I think you are also guilty of applying double standards just like ES. But I'll give you a chance to explain yourself. According to my thinking, if a Canadian Muslim gave money to the Taliban, to help them to buy arms to kill Canadian soldiers, they are guilty of providing material support to the enemy. Locking them up would be justice, not discrimination. If a Canadian Muslim went to Afghanistan and took up arms against Canadian soldiers, they are guilty of treason. Locking them up would be justice, not discrimination. If you agree with me that these are examples of material support for the enemy and treason, then why don't you apply the same standard to Arab Jews who gave money to Zionists or Arab Jews who fought with the Zionists against their own country? Please explain the difference.
Also, I noticed you irrationally fear and hate innocent law abiding Canadian Muslims. You support restricting their religious/cultural freedoms include controlling what they can wear and where they can worship... in violation of Canada's Charter of Rights and Freedoms. You view Muslims as a threat to Canada. So why is it that you disagree with Arabs who irrationally feared and hated Jews? While many Arab Jews remained law abiding citizens, some Arab Jews expressed support for their country's enemy during a time of war. (legal in Canada, but illegal in many countries). Many Arab Jews gave material support to the their country's enemy during a time of war. (illegal in Canada and most countries) A few Arab Jews even committed acts of treason by fighting along their country's enemy and killing their country's soldiers. (Is that legal anywhere?) Was Arab fear and hate of Jews rational or irrational? (FYI: I believe everyone is innocent until proven guilty, so I'm going with irrational. I'd only lock up people convicted of crimes and I would not unduly restrict personal freedoms including cultural/religious freedom)