What the Hell is Going on in London?

JLM

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I'm beginning to wonder if the nuts are going to destroy the world. :smile: No wonder we are so deep in debt!
 

Ocean Breeze

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I'm beginning to wonder if the nuts are going to destroy the world. :smile: No wonder we are so deep in debt!

You ain't kiddin'. The fanatics tenuous grasp on reality is frightening indeed. But I do so wish.......they would learn that it is MANKIND and his dysfunctional character traits/ and behaviors are responsible for both the positive and the negative that happens on this planet.

He might not be responsible for what nature brings forth completely........but it is time that he evaluated his conduct and how it just might be contributing to the many extremes taking place.

those that bring in "god" , might want to realize that they as RESPONSIBLE people need to stop blaming or crediting some unseen entity for things that the stupidity of mankind does.

London is in trurmoil. and many are showing their frustrations, grievances the only way they know how. Unfortunately ...they have chosen riots and destruction over dialogue .

That's the plan. Tank it all then start over with a global dollar.

but that won't happen without some major bloodshed .....
 

Nuggler

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One of the world's most democratic, progressive, multicultural societies, a cradle-to-grave social safety net........

Why????

Rebellion? With CAUSE???

No. That looks like Syria, or Libya, or even Egypt................

and there is no cause.

This is madness, criminality, and unreasoning violence..............the rantings of the spoiled child of English society when the candy ration gets cut back.

It needs to be put down, quickly and harshly.


The cradle to the grave thingy is long gone over there. Desperate times and high unemployment for all races. No links, just a cousin or three who live there. Life is shyte, and getting shyte-er.

I keep telling them to gather up all their relatives and apply for refugeeship here in Canuckistan.............a true land of milk and honey, with a free load for all, health care - the works. They won't do it as they have pride and a work ethic.

They are not black, nor Islamic, nor Tamil, can't speak French, and would probably just be sent home.

Harper thought long and hard about allowing further immigration, found he could get some new cons by letting them in, and said; "fukk it , lettem in". Good luck to us.

Count on blood in the streets here in about 20 years or less.

Gotta love the multi.
 

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Analysis: Riots shake faith in UK austerity, stability
Analysis: Riots shake faith in UK austerity, stability | Reuters

Reuters) - In the eyes of the financial markets, Britain was supposed to be a model of successful, sustainable austerity and a safe haven in which the world's rich could buy houses and stash their savings.

The riots that turned London and some other English cities upside down this week have undermined that model, raising questions about the sustainability of spending cuts and a widening gap between rich and poor.

From many of the dealing rooms and offices in the skyscrapers of Canary Wharf, traders, wealth managers and analysts could see billowing smoke in several directions this week as rioters torched buildings and looted shops.

Order was restored in the capital at least on Tuesday night with a massive show of force by police, but they too face the drastic spending cuts that will affect everything from the military to social benefits and inner-city services.

Britain's coalition government says it remains committed both to cutting a record budget deficit and staying in power until elections due by 2015.

Investors have always had mixed feelings about austerity. They want the British government to tackle the huge deficit to slow its accumulation of debt. But they also fear that cuts will push the economy back into recession, hitting corporate earnings and tax income while raising social spending costs and actually pushing the country deeper into debt.

Nevertheless, they had generally compared British determination to cut the deficit favorably with the indecision or infighting paralyzing much policy-making in the euro zone and United States. Now, they are not so sure.

"If you'd asked me at the weekend, I would have said that with the problems of the euro zone and U.S., (Britain's) sterling (currency) might be poised to become an appealing safe haven," said Simon Derrick, head of foreign exchange at the London branch of Bank of New York Mellon.

As he spoke, from his dealing room Derrick could still see smoke on the horizon from a distant burning warehouse. "This has certainly shaken that... it's probably still too soon to say what it means for policy, but it certainly makes austerity look more difficult."

LiveLeak.com - This Is England 2011.
 

petros

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Reuters) - In the eyes of the financial markets, Britain was supposed to be a
model of successful, sustainable austerity and a safe haven in which the world's
rich could buy houses and stash their savings.
I guess nobody was smart enough to consider if people really wanted to pay for bankers (Assholes Without Borders) **** ups or not.

Apparently it's not.
 

AbtFet

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Anarchy and Austerity: Why London Won't Be the Last City to Burn - Derek Thompson - Business - The Atlantic

The Great Recession gave birth to a lost generation across the world, where youth unemployment rates stretch into the 20s, 30s and even 40s. Those millions have responded with violence.

The riots and fires consuming London are a story about senseless violence and crime. They are also a story about urban politics, race relations, education inequality, and British culture and society. But underneath all of that, they are part of an economic story that is universal.
 

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Anarchy and Austerity: Why London Won't Be the Last City to Burn - Derek Thompson - Business - The Atlantic

The Great Recession gave birth to a lost generation across the world, where youth unemployment rates stretch into the 20s, 30s and even 40s. Those millions have responded with violence.

The riots and fires consuming London are a story about senseless violence and crime. They are also a story about urban politics, race relations, education inequality, and British culture and society. But underneath all of that, they are part of an economic story that is universal.


Don't limit it to the the last 3 years. For 40 years we have seen a massive polarization wealth. Virtually all of the advances of building a secure middle class, with security, fair wages, pensions, benefits, affordable higher education for their children have disappeared in the Global Free Market Frenzy of the last 4 decades.

The wealthy now pay a far smaller percentage of their incomes by way on capital gains rates, and increasingly flat income taxes.. than a labourer who earns a subsistence for his family by the sweat of his brow. The 'political class', Obama, Cameron, Harper.. has been bought and payed for by the interests of affluence.. and are shills for the Free Market.

Provide people with no hope, gouge them with austerity and regressive taxation, coddle the rich as a 'gift to the poor', sequestered away in gated communities.. and people take their frustrations to the streets.

They should be attacking those gated communities, not their own neighbourhoods, though.
 

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The usual pro-firearm nonsense, which always overlooks the fact that the looters (who greatly outnumber the shopkeepers) would also have firearms. All you would have is a lot of dead shopkeepers. Please also note that the gun mad USA has had riots equal in size to those in England. Apparently gun ownership had no deterrent effect there.

Having been in the Poll Tax riots of 1990 (as an accidental observer, not a participant) I have some experience of the sort of idiots who engage in the mindless destruction seen in Britain. It is very similar in nature to what happened in Vancouver this year. What it appears to be is a number of the less intelligent rabble taking advantage of a minor incident to create as much mayhem as they can, believing that the large number of people engaged in lawless acts provides anonymity. These acts of vandalism and theft are exacerbated by use of social media to loosely coordinate attacks on property.

It is also a fact that such acts of violence are much more a part of British culture than they are elsewhere, as the continual soccer hooliganism in the country illustrates. Essentially the current situation in Britain seems to be soccer hooliganism on a much larger and more destructive scale.
 

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Not anywheres as much as you moron. London police have been known to manufacture evidence much like your hero Mark Fuhrmann. Recall the de Menezes case for proof - that was a totally fabricated case designed to protect criminal cops from the consequences of their criminal behavior.

This is why people in London are speculating as to whether Duggan was armed at all. After all, why would he be carrying a starter gun if he wanted to kill cops?


Duggan did not fire on the Police. | Transremaxculver


''Duggan did not fire, so the question arises did he even have the gun in his possession?''


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''We don't know that he even had a gun.

They lied about there being a shoot-out when in reality, they just shot him dead.

I'm not convinced he had a gun, they probably just planted it.... if he did and didn't pull it or fire it, then It's murder, pure and simple.''




Londons BURNING!, page 116



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The reason why minorities in England have protested against police abuses is because the cops have a history of manufacturing evidence and pretending they were the victims of attacks. It is shameful that some have taken this opportunity to harm others but it must be remembered that violence begets violence. If police had not started with abuses of this kind (see my earlier post from Gosling where he reports police have murdered over 300 minorities with impunity) none of this would have happened.







 

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"I'm not convinced he had a gun, they probably just planted it.... if
he did and didn't pull it or fire it, then It's murder, pure and
simple.''
What if they (the coppers) were Romans who hired that Christie guy who defended the hard hat wearing Jew hater and they want to use some ancient self defense clause or freeman on the land lynch mob law?
 

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Strange how we have not heard from the anti big government crowd here condemning the police abuses of the public which led to this riotous violence.
 

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''Are you people born stupid, or do you have to work at it?????''

Not anywheres as much as you moron. London police have been known to manufacture evidence much like your hero Mark Fuhrmann. Recall the de Menezes case for proof - that was a totally fabricated case designed to protect criminal cops from the consequences of their criminal behavior.

This is why people in London are speculating as to whether Duggan was armed at all. After all, why would he be carrying a starter gun if he wanted to kill cops?


Duggan did not fire on the Police. | Transremaxculver


''Duggan did not fire, so the question arises did he even have the gun in his possession?''


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''We don't know that he even had a gun.

They lied about there being a shoot-out when in reality, they just shot him dead.

I'm not convinced he had a gun, they probably just planted it.... if he did and didn't pull it or fire it, then It's murder, pure and simple.''




Londons BURNING!, page 116



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The reason why minorities in England have protested against police abuses is because the cops have a history of manufacturing evidence and pretending they were the victims of attacks. It is shameful that some have taken this opportunity to harm others but it must be remembered that violence begets violence. If police had not started with abuses of this kind (see my earlier post from Gosling where he reports police have murdered over 300 minorities with impunity) none of this would have happened.















What the #!%*?: Why were the British police caught off guard? | News | National Post
 
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spaminator

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london bridge and everything else is falling down.;)8O
 
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THE SUN NEVER SETS ON THE BRITISH WELFARE SYSTEM

August 10, 2011


Those of you following the barbaric rioting in Britain will not have failed to notice that a sizable proportion of the thugs are white, something not often seen in this country.

Not only that, but in a triumph of feminism, a lot of them are girls. Even the "disabled" (according to the British benefits system) seem to have miraculously overcome their infirmities to dash out and steal a few TVs.

Congratulations, Britain! You've barbarized your citizenry, without regard to race, gender or physical handicap!

With a welfare system far more advanced than the United States, the British have achieved the remarkable result of turning entire communities of ancestral British people into tattooed, drunken brutes.

I guess we now have the proof of what conservatives have been saying since forever: Looting is a result of liberal welfare policies. And Britain is in the end stages of the welfare state.

In 2008, a 9-year-old British girl, Shannon Matthews, disappeared on her way home from a school trip. The media leapt on the case -- only to discover that Shannon was one of seven children her mother, Karen, had produced with five different men.

The first of these serial sperm-donors explained: "Karen just goes from one bloke to the next, uses them to have a kid, grabs all the child benefits and moves on."

Poor little Shannon eventually turned up at the home of one of her many step-uncles -- whose ex-wife, by the way, was the mother of six children with three different fathers.

(Is Father's Day celebrated in England? If so, how?)

The Daily Mail (London) traced the family's proud Anglo ancestry of stable families back hundreds of years. The Nazi war machine couldn't break the British, but the modern welfare state has.

A year earlier, in 2007, another product of the new order, Fiona MacKeown, took seven of her eight children (by five different fathers) and her then-boyfriend, on a drug-fueled, six-month vacation to the Indian island of Goa. The trip was paid for -- like everything else in her life -- with government benefits.

(When was the last time you had a free, six-month vacation? I'm drawing a blank, too.)

While in Goa, Fiona took her entourage on a side-trip, leaving her 15-year-old daughter, Scarlett Keeling, in the capable hands of a 25-year-old local whom Scarlett had begun sleeping with, perhaps hoping to get a head-start on her own government benefits. A few weeks later, Scarlett turned up dead, full of drugs, raped and murdered.

Scarlett's estranged stepfather later drank himself to death, while her brother Silas announced on his social networking page: "My name is Si, n I spend most my life either out wit mates get drunk or at partys, playing rugby or going to da beach (pretty s**t really)."

It's a wonder that someone like Silas, who has never worked, and belongs to a family in which no one has ever worked, can afford a cellphone for social networking. No, actually, it's not.

Britain has a far more redistributive welfare system than France, which is why France's crime problem is mostly a matter of Muslim immigrants, not French nationals. Meanwhile, England's welfare state is fast returning the native population to its violent 18th-century highwaymen roots.

Needless to say, Britain leads Europe in the proportion of single mothers and, as a consequence, also leads or co-leads the European Union in violent crime, alcohol and drug abuse, obesity and sexually transmitted diseases.

But liberal elites here and in Britain will blame anything but the welfare state they adore. They drone on about the strict British class system or the lack of jobs or the nation's history of racism.

None of that explains the sad lives of young Shannon Matthews and Scarlett Keeling, with their long English ancestry and perfect Anglo features.

Democrats would be delighted if violent mobs like those in Britain arose here -- perhaps in Wisconsin! That would allow them to introduce yet more government programs staffed by unionized public employees, as happened after the 1992 L.A. riots and the 1960s race riots, following the recommendations of the Kerner Commission.

MSNBC might even do the unthinkable and offer Al Sharpton his own TV show. (Excuse me -- someone's trying to get my attention ... WHAT?)

Inciting violent mobs is the essence of the left's agenda: Promote class warfare, illegitimate children and an utterly debased citizenry.

Like the British riot girls interviewed by the BBC, the Democrats tell us "all of this happened because of the rich people."

We're beginning to see the final result of that idea in Britain. The welfare state creates a society of beasts. Meanwhile, nonjudgmental elites don't dare condemn the animals their programs have created.

Rioters in England are burning century-old family businesses to the ground, stealing from injured children lying on the sidewalks and forcing Britons to strip to their underwear on the street.

I keep reading that it's because they don't have jobs -- which they're obviously anxious to hold. Or someone called them a "kaffir." Or their social services have been reduced. Or their Blackberries made them do it. Or they disapprove of a referee's call in a Manchester United game.

A few well-placed rifle rounds, and the rioting would end in an instant. A more sustained attack on the rampaging mob might save England from itself, finally removing shaved-head, drunken parasites from the benefits rolls that Britain can't find the will to abolish on moral or utilitarian grounds. We can be sure there's no danger of killing off the next Winston Churchill or Edmund Burke in these crowds.

But like Louis XVI, British authorities are paralyzed by their indifference to their own civilization. A half-century of berating themselves for the crime of being British has left them morally defenseless. They see nothing about England worth saving, certainly not worth fighting for -- which is fortunate since most of their cops don't have guns.

This is how civilizations die. It can happen overnight, as it did in Revolutionary France. If Britain of 1939 were composed of the current British population, the entirety of Europe would today be doing the "Heil Hitler" salute and singing the "Horst Wessel Song."

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