The casual arming of the idiot cousins in the country directly south of Canada.

[CDNBear]

I think He/She meant this one.... Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler by Antony C. Sutton

But it's a long read.....An E-Book....if it was in PDF I'd download it to my reader...

Ya I remember that guy. A confirmed new world order nutter. Who refused to debate several people, on the merits of his claims.

Well, I give up. I read every bloody one of those links before posting them and I got into them. So at this point, I don't give a darn if those links work or not.

I kind of thought you might say that, considering some of the alterations seem suspicious. Nice cop out though.

I suspect there would not be enough evidence in the world, including outright confessions, to convince any of you.

Not true, I'm just a discerning listener. Either you give something believable, and on point, or you're a fraud.

Oh yes, I am certain, you believe all those stories to be lies and that big corporations of a country should be allowed to do business without any responsibility to anything but a bottom line.

I didn't say all your links were lies. I said you were incorrect, and unable to differentiate between private industry and US foreign policy.

In closing, do you remember all the nasty rhetoric coming Canada's way when we refused to go into Iraq?? Where was the respect for our neutral stance??

What does that matter?

And we were not involved in selling arms to them at any point.

Neither was the US, as you have failed to prove.

What is legal and still as evidenced here, thought to be morally right and ethical by some Americans, (thank goodness a minority) those rights end at the border.

What are you babbling about here?

 

[DaSleeper]

Ya I remember that guy. A confirmed new world order nutter. Who refused to debate several people, on the merits of his claims.

I'll keep that in mind when I read.......Just finished reading his wiki bio and he does seem to to have a bone to pick with Wall St...

 

[CDNBear]

I'll keep that in mind when I read.......Just finished reading his wiki bio and he does seem to to have a bone to pick with Wall St...

Ya Mhz threw him at me a while ago. I read the better part of his Hitler book. I was surprised to see the leaps in connecting power brokers, a kin to Mhz style, from someone with his credentials. None the less, it was good food for thought.

 

[DaSleeper]

Ya Mhz threw him at me a while ago. I read the better part of his Hitler book. I was surprised to see the leaps in connecting power brokers, a kin to Mhz style, from someone with his credentials. None the less, it was good food for thought.

There you go, and I was getting myself ready to conceding....after I'd read the book of course.

That's why it's a good idea to process more than one viewpoint befor making up one's mind.

I will take my time reading it..but not tonight.

 

[CDNBear]

That's why it's a good idea to process more than one viewpoint befor making up one's mind.

Absolutely. Which is why I oft set out to prove someones claims to be true, before I challenge them.

I will take my time reading it..but not tonight.

Enjoy. I lost interest after awhile.

 

[EagleSmack]

Eagle,

This exerpt comes from the Washington Post.... "Ford & GM scrutinized for "Alleged" Natzi Collaboration."

The Washington Post: National, World & D.C. Area News and Headlines - The Washington Post

LOL, Silly!! Come on, try accepting that there were and are those who feel they have the right to do as they wish, even in the Good Old US of A.!!




"When American GIs invaded Europe in June 1944, they did so in jeeps, trucks and tanks manufactured by the Big Three motor companies in one of the largest crash militarization programs ever undertaken. It came as an unpleasant surprise to discover that the enemy was also driving trucks manufactured by Ford and Opel -- a 100 percent GM-owned subsidiary -- and flying Opel-built warplanes. (Chrysler's role in the German rearmament effort was much less significant.)When the U.S. Army liberated the Ford plants in Cologne and Berlin, they found destitute foreign workers confined behind barbed wire and company documents extolling the "genius of the Fuehrer," according to reports filed by soldiers at the scene. A U.S. Army report by investigator Henry Schneider dated Sept. 5, 1945, accused the German branch of Ford of serving as "an arsenal of Nazism, at least for military vehicles" with the "consent" of the parent company in Dearborn.

How silly.

I ask you again... what was coming at us during WWII.... Shermans? P-47's? M-10's?

Oh by the way, what do you think about China protesting the infringement of their borders by US spy planes. And hey that is not old news. What is the matter with the US Military. Do they want a war with China now, just so they do not have to pay back the debt they owe there?

How do you suppose the US would react if a foreign country sent a spy plane over it's borders??

My Gawd, what would happen to the US currency if China dumped their holdings of it onto the world markets today??

More silliness.

 

[bluebyrd35]

As usual all nothing of substance just opinion. Not one thing that backs your denials Just the usual rhetoric. You know, mindless repeating an opinion doesn't make it so.

 

[CDNBear]

As usual all nothing of substance just opinion.

I agree, your posts are as usual, nothing of substance, and just opinion.

Not one thing that backs your denials Just the usual rhetoric.

That's because you refuse to answer his questions with fact. The material you posted, as I already explained and shown, does not support your argument.

You know, mindless repeating an opinion doesn't make it so.

Again, true, which is why your opinion is still silly and wrong.

Your claims, your onus to prove them.

Feel free to drop the cop outs and side stepping, and actually support your claims...

1, The US was supplying both sides with arms during the war.
2, Fritz Thyssen out smarted the Judges.
3, The Bush family were Nazi supporters.
4, That the US was under any obligation to do anything, until drawn into the war.

 

[Nuggler]

..................The casual posting of idiot Canadians who have a hard on for Americans never ceases to amaze me. Fukk the facts, just have at'em.............too sad.

 

[CDNBear]

..................The casual posting of idiot Canadians who have a hard on for Americans never ceases to amaze me. Fukk the facts, just have at'em.............too sad.

The US has an extensive portfolio of sliminess to be ashamed of, without people making up silliness.

 

[DaSleeper]

If they had had N.A.T.O. back then.....it would be another story....but that agreement was signed much later '49 I believe......

 

[CDNBear]

If they had had N.A.T.O. back then.....it would be another story....but that agreement was signed much later '49 I believe......

April 4th to be exact. The US' invited involvement was simply to counter the strength of the Soviet Union.

 

[EagleSmack]

As usual all nothing of substance just opinion. Not one thing that backs your denials Just the usual rhetoric. You know, mindless repeating an opinion doesn't make it so.

I asked you what arms did we supply the Germans? How is that an opinion?

 

[CDNBear]

I asked you what arms did we supply the Germans? How is that an opinion?

When he can't provide the smoking gun. That's how, lol.

 

[JLM]

I asked you what arms did we supply the Germans? How is that an opinion?

That is an impossible question to answer with any certainty.

 

[petros]

Ask Stalin where the steel to build tanks, ships, artillery, rail, industry and aluminum to build aircraft came from.

 

[EagleSmack]

Ask Stalin where the steel to build tanks, ships, artillery, rail, industry and aluminum to build aircraft came from.

Well I know the Anglo-Allies supplied the Soviets with lots.

 

[petros]

Well I know the Anglo-Allies supplied the Soviets with lots.

After Hitler screwed Stalin over in 41 yup. Then they became part of the Allies.

 

[Colpy]

Eagle,

This exerpt comes from the Washington Post.... "Ford & GM scrutinized for "Alleged" Natzi Collaboration."

The Washington Post: National, World & D.C. Area News and Headlines - The Washington Post

LOL, Silly!! Come on, try accepting that there were and are those who feel they have the right to do as they wish, even in the Good Old US of A.!!




"When American GIs invaded Europe in June 1944, they did so in jeeps, trucks and tanks manufactured by the Big Three motor companies in one of the largest crash militarization programs ever undertaken. It came as an unpleasant surprise to discover that the enemy was also driving trucks manufactured by Ford and Opel -- a 100 percent GM-owned subsidiary -- and flying Opel-built warplanes. (Chrysler's role in the German rearmament effort was much less significant.)When the U.S. Army liberated the Ford plants in Cologne and Berlin, they found destitute foreign workers confined behind barbed wire and company documents extolling the "genius of the Fuehrer," according to reports filed by soldiers at the scene. A U.S. Army report by investigator Henry Schneider dated Sept. 5, 1945, accused the German branch of Ford of serving as "an arsenal of Nazism, at least for military vehicles" with the "consent" of the parent company in Dearborn.

The whole article is there for reading.

Oh by the way, what do you think about China protesting the infringement of their borders by US spy planes. And hey that is not old news. What is the matter with the US Military. Do they want a war with China now, just so they do not have to pay back the debt they owe there?

How do you suppose the US would react if a foreign country sent a spy plane over it's borders??

My Gawd, what would happen to the US currency if China dumped their holdings of it onto the world markets today??

Over and Over and Over and Over I have dealt with this BULL****.

OF COURSE the USA traded with Germany.

Up until December of 1941 they were NEUTRAL. Indeed, they ceased trading military goods with Germany long before that, and, in fact, the US Navy was involved in anti-sub warfare before the US got into the war.

And if you think Chrysler was in control of the Opel factory, or Dearborn was in control of the Ford factory during the war then you.....well.......I'll leave it unsaid.

Put it this way, you should keep your fingers out of things you don't understand, and you don't understand history.

[As for remote ties being severed, after war was declared, no it wasn't. Understand that the rest of the world was engaged in stopping Hitler's bid for world domination since 1939. The one time when the US should have declared war, it didn't!! Heck you guys were getting rich dealing with both sides. You keep saying after the declaration of war, as though the war was not going into it's 3rd year when Pearl harbour was bombed.

You may fool yourself on legalities and turn on the righteous indignation or even infer my view of reality is skewed; but it won't change the facts that if Japan had not bombed Pearl Harbour, the US would have continued it's policy. Would it have cozied up in the end with the Hitler the conquerer?? Or would Hitler have simply moved in and taken over??

So what? I love the anti-Americans!!! They whine on and on and on and on about war-monger America........and then, in the next breath, complain about her isolationism and neutrality 1914-17, and 1939-41.

MAKE UP YOUR LITTLE MINDS!!!!!

 

[petros]

Over and Over and Over and Over I have dealt with this BULL****.

OF COURSE the USA traded with Germany.

Up until December of 1941 they were NEUTRAL. Indeed, they ceased trading military goods with Germany long before that, and, in fact, the US Navy was involved in anti-sub warfare before the US got into the war.

And if you think Chrysler was in control of the Opel factory, or Dearborn was in control of the Ford factory during the war then you.....well.......I'll leave it unsaid.

Put it this way, you should keep your fingers out of things you don't understand, and you don't understand history.



So what? I love the anti-Americans!!! They whine on and on and on and on about war-monger America........and then, in the next breath, complain about her isolationism and neutrality 1914-17, and 1939-41.

MAKE UP YOUR LITTLE MINDS!!!!!

Up until December of 1941 they were NEUTRAL. Indeed, they ceased trading military goods with Germany long before that, and, in fact, the US Navy was involved in anti-sub warfare before the US got into the war.

Thousands of US Merchant Marines were lost in the convoys to the Wolf Packs along side those in the god forsaken Royal Navy Corvettes.