US spies pose as medical workers

earth_as_one

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DaSleeper

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Yeah I have an agenda all right. Its to kick your ass with logic.
Logic and your posts are a perfect example of an "oxymoron"
 

Goober

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Yeah I have an agenda all right. Its to kick your ass with logic.


Why does that sound familiar???? You aren't referring to this:

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Your agenda is simple, as that is all you can manage without help from some other freak.
1- Anti Semitic

2 - Anti US

3 -Backpedaling faster than a politician caught in a scandal

As you profess to have logic- What means would you have employed to confirm that Osama was indeed in that particular compound - Caveat - You cannot trust the Pakistanis - So tell us, the great unwashed, school us with your insight logic, and intellect.

I await the words and thoughts from on high Grasshopper
 

DaSleeper

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Your agenda is simple, as that is all you can manage without help from some other freak.
1- Anti Semitic

2 - Anti US

3 -Backpedaling faster than a politician caught in a scandal

As you profess to have logic- What means would you have employed to confirm that Osama was indeed in that particular compound - Caveat - You cannot trust the Pakistanis - So tell us, the great unwashed, school us with your insight logic, and intellect.

I await the words and thoughts from on high Grasshopper

Like your islamic terrorist friends do?

It's nice of "One" to have friends so "one" gets all his ducks in a row......non?
 

damngrumpy

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To start with Canadian soldiers have been killed by Terrorists and sympathisers with our enemy.
Pakistan is our ally for money no other reason. This is the question, did Americans use this as a
for of spying? Is it the Pakistanis using the propaganda button to make claims that are not true?
may never be answered. You would think the people of Pakistan would be happy to get all the
help they could medically from who ever is willing to provide it. The Pakistan government or its
people make these claims and perhaps protest it as an outrage.
What they should be doing is assisting in all possible ways to rid themselves of the very terrorists
they support, while they take money from the West as handouts because the can't look after their
own people. Meanwhile the western world is going broke feeding them and clothing them and
educating them. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.
I don't give a hoot how they get the job done spying is a part of war. I also question the American
need to do this, as they have been dong a great job so far ridding the world of Islamic militant
murderers. America needs more drones and clear identifiable targets throughout the middle east and
I am all for it. God I say this and I am primarily on the left. What i call the common sense left.
for the most part. It should be plain to all that we are in a struggle for world survival civilization against
tribal stone age medieval anarchy.
 

earth_as_one

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If this is a battle with tribal stone age medieval anarchy, I'm pretty sure we can kick some medieval butt without having to risking the lives of humanitarian aid workers without their consent. IMO, this kind of conduct is shameful and a complete disgrace.
 

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And it has gone on for nearly a hundred years. In fact we used our own embassy and staff
years ago to get American diplomats and CIA agents out of Iran during the days of Reagan
and Jimmy Carter. When it comes to finding out what an enemy is doing when it has the
ability to hurt the homeland you use what ever it takes to get the job done. You use the
clergy or aid workers or even senior citizens if that is what is called for. There is a war to be
fought. Pakistan should be taking care of this themselves but the traitors take money and
side with the enemy and it time we put them on notice that they do what they said they would
or become an enemy of the west which would mean they and their people would starve to
death. The CIA did the right thing, remember the most hotly contested war zone is where
the Taliban and their Pakistani allies killed most of the Canadians. No sympathy for
Pakistan from me.
 

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To start with Canadian soldiers have been killed by Terrorists and sympathisers with our enemy.
Pakistan is our ally for money no other reason. This is the question, did Americans use this as a
for of spying? Is it the Pakistanis using the propaganda button to make claims that are not true?
may never be answered. You would think the people of Pakistan would be happy to get all the
help they could medically from who ever is willing to provide it. The Pakistan government or its
people make these claims and perhaps protest it as an outrage.
What they should be doing is assisting in all possible ways to rid themselves of the very terrorists
they support, while they take money from the West as handouts because the can't look after their
own people. Meanwhile the western world is going broke feeding them and clothing them and
educating them. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.
I don't give a hoot how they get the job done spying is a part of war. I also question the American
need to do this, as they have been dong a great job so far ridding the world of Islamic militant
murderers. America needs more drones and clear identifiable targets throughout the middle east and
I am all for it. God I say this and I am primarily on the left. What i call the common sense left.
for the most part. It should be plain to all that we are in a struggle for world survival civilization against
tribal stone age medieval anarchy.

Well said Grump.
 

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Aaaa, people are killing Canadian and other NATO personnel because we invaded their country. If they were our allies, they would be called freedom fighters but they are not so we call them terrorists. It is known as propaganda or political double speak. Whatever you call it, it is still Bull Shyte.
 

petros

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Aaaa, people are killing Canadian and other NATO personnel because we invaded their country. If they were our allies, they would be called freedom fighters but they are not so we call them terrorists. It is known as propaganda or political double speak. Whatever you call it, it is still Bull Shyte.

Hooray for "good" al Qaeda in Libya!
 

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CIA Have "apparently" identified a Gene in the DNA that, most religious extremist's have in comon.
There was a video about it online I saw.

Is it true? With unlimited resource it could be.

I don't know about that one, but they've found two others affecting brain development and function that are fairly recent, evolutionarily speaking.

One came in around the end of the last ice-age, and people without it have what we call by modern standards "bad tempers", although objective studies show it's just a tenancy to react without thinking first, which is useful when being attacked by animals. The reports say about 25% of modern humans still hold that one.

The other came in about 12-9K years ago, and has something to do with enabling people to be easier-minded about living in groups larger than a tribe. In this case it's about 32% of the modern population still feeling the old way.

Both together, it's about one in twelve whom modern city dwellers would classify as a violent, natural country-boy.

When it comes to finding out what an enemy is doing when it has the
ability to hurt the homeland you use what ever it takes to get the job done.
Ironic in terms of the concept of "International Law"... isn't it?

International Law is applied only when both sides save money, and it should be called treaties.

A famous example is the Soviet/NORAD treaty saying that neither will plant nuclear missiles on the ocean floor.

Both sides joyfully signed it, else they'd have to spend the money doing such a thing just to be sure.

Why planet ICBMs on the ocean floor when you can have big giant mobile missile-launching platforms in the form of nuclear submarines?

By the way, and I know this is a total aside and off topic etc., but did you know that at the end of the cold war, Soviet internal organization had broken down so bad that Gorbachev's talk about how they had better control over nukes than the US was a bizarre Russian way of saying they had control of *one* they could point-and-shoot... which was enough.

One missile can take out Chicago or NY or LA or Washington.
You use the
clergy or aid workers or even senior citizens if that is what is called for.
You'll arrest citizens who look like Hitler with their copying of the toothbrush mustache and shoot him and leave him on the streets for Russians to find hoping they'll think they found Hitler when you're loosing.

There is a war to be
fought. Pakistan should be taking care of this themselves but the traitors take money and
side with the enemy and it time we put them on notice that they do what they said they would
or become an enemy of the west ...
Oh man, you so do not know Pakistan.

Look at a map showing the mountain divide. Google Maps

Notice the green-belt to the east. That's real Pakistan. Notice how it's border-of-authority extends way west over a mountain range.

Probably some dumb hangover from the British Empire days.

In that eastern green-belt are their moderns... super-hip and not hung up about whether or not women wear head-dress.

West of it is a place that politico-geographically should be with Afghanistan. It's a bunch of dry-land Islamic hillbilly's singing halleluiah-death-as-a-retarded-warrior-is-glorious (only if you never had kids before being killed) along with the Taliban.

East Pakistani's *hate* being in charge of those hillbillies west of the divide. It should never have been given to them. It should have been part of Afghanistan all along.

Green-belt eastern-Pakistan wants to shed responsibility over that wasteland west of the divide, but of course being political must do their job in the UN and ask for something in exchange, whereupon Uncle Sam says something like how if Pakistan is willing to surrender territory and be as modern as she is then she gets bumped up to first-world trade status in competition with India over who can thrill consumers the most, combined with agents sent out to tell the Taliban they just got more territory, such that they think their territory has expanded, combined with ...

.. Hmm ... this is when Iran gets involved, and if there could be a sane state of government in Iran - for Iranians are a fundamental one-of-a-kind people with a strength about equal to France if it gets nukes - then with them having good government we back off as Iran expands a natural sphere of influence over the territories of the old Persian empire, and they get the problem of Taliban... sort of like how France has to deal with north Africa. If you want to trade with Iran what they are hungry for is good lamb, and they can trade back the best carpets.

which would mean they and their people would starve to
death. The CIA did the right thing, remember the most hotly contested war zone is where
the Taliban and their Pakistani allies killed most of the Canadians. No sympathy for
Pakistan from me.
Good thing $36 billion of sparkly F-35's are going to solve that, when for the same money Canada could have its own GPS system, and a Command and Control center in some place like Kitchener, with snotty little video game players driving 1500 drones built by Bombardier patrolling the wastelands and the coastlines for invasions of illegal immigrants.
 
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Yeah I have an agenda all right. Its to kick your ass with logic.


Well, we have no fears of that ever happening. With all your double standards and logical inconsistency, you can barely lift your fat little foot off the ground.

If this is a battle with tribal stone age medieval anarchy, I'm pretty sure we can kick some medieval butt without having to risking the lives of humanitarian aid workers without their consent. IMO, this kind of conduct is shameful and a complete disgrace.
So it's true than?

I don't know about that one, but they've found two others affecting brain development and function that are fairly recent, evolutionarily speaking.

One came in around the end of the last ice-age, and people without it have what we call by modern standards "bad tempers", although objective studies show it's just a tenancy to react without thinking first, which is useful when being attacked by animals. The reports say about 25% of modern humans still hold that one.

The other came in about 12-9K years ago, and has something to do with enabling people to be easier-minded about living in groups larger than a tribe. In this case it's about 32% of the modern population still feeling the old way.
Is that the same gene that produces substance abuse?
 

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If this is a battle with tribal stone age medieval anarchy, I'm pretty sure we can kick some medieval butt without having to risking the lives of humanitarian aid workers without their consent. IMO, this kind of conduct is shameful and a complete disgrace.

Mighty Mouse

Now you mention that they are mentally backwards so that places you on a level playing field with them. Then it only stands to reason you could come up with a plan.

As you profess to have logic- What means would you have employed to confirm that Osama was indeed in that particular compound - Caveat - You cannot trust the Pakistanis - So tell us, the great unwashed, school us with your insight logic, and intellect.

I await the words and thoughts from on high Grasshopper