For every image of suffering in the Warsaw Ghetto, there is an equivalent image of similar suffering in Gaza.
Warsaw Ghetto Vs Gaza - YouTube
Warsaw Ghetto Vs Gaza - YouTube
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We all know that the Jews coming to Israel was an islamic conspiracy.....or so says a hamas cleric;-)
Hamas Cleric and MP May 2011: Jews Were Brought to Palestine for the Great Massacre
Hamas Cleric and MP May 2011: Jews Were Brought to Palestine for the Great Massacre
From the above websites "about" link.
I checked nutjob's website reference list and Iconic Surrealism wasn't listed. He uses the same key words, obsesses about the same topics and has the same mind set. Maybe you and him can swap lists of websites. You obviously know a few he doesn't.
lol yeah I remember hearing about all the shopping centres in the Warsaw ghetto, they had tons of olympic size swimming pools too, and were also fighting world leading obesity rates. I think they had pretty strong exports of fresh food and horticulture too. I can see how you could confuse the two. :roll:
Nice try but when I put a fence up around my yard because kids keep coming in and vandalizing my property, I'm not infringing on their rights. All the Palestinians have to do free themselves from their so called "prison" is stop trying to kill Jews. Israel has been dismantling checkpoints for a while now, and sure enough, terror attacks and attempted terror attacks have started to increase.
Also, if I'm not mistaken about the locale, your favourite "victims" in B'Lin just won a court case in Israel to have the fence relocated. How many Jews in the Ghetto won court cases in Berlin? Huh? How many?
I'll take your word on the numbers, but there's also a lot of turnover. In many cases all Israel asks of those interned is to agree not to participate in terror. Many sign the papers then are thereafter re-arrested, having been caught participating in terror. How many times had Gilad been released? We've already touched on the conditions as well, those interned by Israel are freely accessible to the red cross, they don't just disappear without a trace for five years. and as I said many have cell phones and Internet access. Just like Gilad?
Ummm, most were "ethnically cleansed" by their own Arab leaders. Only a small percentage were forced out. But you already know that.
I'm not sure they arrived before "God's chosen people", but I don't feel like checking now. I used to think so too, it only made sense, right? I mean Philistine; Palestine. Obviously a connection. I laughed out loud when I heard Arafat describe himself as a descendant of the Philistines. Nice try on his part, only problem is the Philistines were a Hellenic people. Arafat was Arabic. Whoops!
I also got a kick out of the fact that there's no "P" sound in the Arabic language. Why would a people name themselves something they can't pronounce? I mean, people can name themselves whatever they want, but don't try to pull the wool over our eyes about history. The Palestinians are a new peoples, just like Canadians. Most Canadians would be foolish to claim they have an ancestry in the land that goes back thousands of years, but that's exactly the type of claim the Palestinian Arabs want us to believe. At the same time, they do their best to destroy all evidence of a Jewish history in Palestine, formulating a new narrative now that Jews in fact have no history in Palestine. That just does not go a long way towards earning my respect.
Now the biggest laugh! I just learned recently that "Palestine" is not in fact "derived from "land of the Philistines"", but is very likely the Greek translation of "Israel". That's right, that's what I said. "Palestine" is "Israel" in Greek!! I'm still laughing about that one. Just wait until the Palestinians find out they're Greek Israelis!! Will the fun ever end?
Your post indicates clearly you know darn well who is and isn't free.
Regarding ICRC access to POWs:
Protecting war victims: lessons of the past, challenges for the future
"nearly" does not equal "all". Blocking ICRC access to any POW by any belligerent is a violation of international law. Both sides of this conflict violate these laws.
Let me reference nutjob's manifesto regarding the origin of the Palestinians:
Do you agree with nutjob?
The Dutch street orchestra ‘Fanfare van de Eerste Liefdesnacht’ (the First Night of Love Brass Band) from Amsterdam was attacked with tear gas today by the Israeli army during their performance in the Palestinian village Kufr Qadum near Nablus, northern West Bank.
The bands tour of Palestine is designed to be interactive, working with children from a refugee camp in the east of Bethlehem and having them play along with the band and dancing in the streets together.
The musicians were confronted with tens of soldiers who shot tear gas cannisters from behind their military jeeps during the musical performance. They then found themselves surrounded with snipers. Several members of the band were injured and suffered from tear gas inhalation.
Kufr Qadum is a village near Nablus that has suffered in recent years from radical jewish settlers who have attacked the villagers, cut down olive trees and set fire to fields. The roads that lead to the village are often blocked by Israeli military checkpoints.
The Dutch music orchestra has travelled around the West Bank for a duration of two weeks to perform in towns, villages and refugee camps. The band consists of 25 musicians with different musical instruments. They were invited by the town council of Kufr Qadum to perform in the village.
Israeli army attacks Dutch street band with tear gas
The bands tour of Palestine is designed to be interactive, working with children from a refugee camp in the east of Bethlehem and having them play along with the band and dancing in the streets together.
The musicians were confronted with tens of soldiers who shot tear gas cannisters from behind their military jeeps during the musical performance. They then found themselves surrounded with snipers. Several members of the band were injured and suffered from tear gas inhalation.
Kufr Qadum is a village near Nablus that has suffered in recent years from radical jewish settlers who have attacked the villagers, cut down olive trees and set fire to fields. The roads that lead to the village are often blocked by Israeli military checkpoints.
The Dutch music orchestra has travelled around the West Bank for a duration of two weeks to perform in towns, villages and refugee camps. The band consists of 25 musicians with different musical instruments. They were invited by the town council of Kufr Qadum to perform in the village.
Israeli army attacks Dutch street band with tear gas
Wow, as a kid I thought I was pretty good at getting the net out of the way at the first sound of "Car!", but I ain't never seen a pair of goalposts move that fast! lol
When did the issue become who's more free to travel around Israel, Israeli's or non-Israli's? Of course Israeli's are more free to move around Israel. If the Palestinians would stop trying to kill Jews, it wouldn't be long before travel between the disputed territoris and Israel was as free flowing as that between Canada and the U.S. But the Arabs gotta stop trying to kill Jews at every turn. That's kinda an important factor that you really really like to skip over a lot.
As for prisoners being denied access to the red cross, I think you can bet there are lawyers on the case. Probably largely funded by your b'tselem friends or whatever they're called. How many lawyers in Gaza fighting on Gilad's behalf? Huh? How many?
And who cares about nutjob. I mean he's nutjob, lol. I haven't read his so called manifesto and I have no plans to read his so called manifesto and I will not use his manifesto as a baseline for judging anything or anyone, let alone myself.
Seriously. Nutjob? Sheesh.
13,000 Gaza children take timeout from starvation to break word kite flying record.
Reminds of the Warsaw Ghetto, I think they held the record pretty much right through the forties, didn't they?
Gaza Kite Festival: Children Claim World Record Despite Resistance
No doubt it was the Jews who tried to sabotage the event. O wait....there are no Jews in Gaza.
Really - Where are the death squad - where are the selections crews - Cannot find them in Gaza unless we think of Hamas and their own extra judicial killings of members of the PLO.
In your mind that new mall with escalators, imported thru Isreal, AC Units etc are a work camp or factory where if sales are not met the Gaza employees AKA prisoners are executed, by who though.
A prison is defined by the restricted freedoms.
I never claimed that the Zionist state of Israel has extermination camps... yet. Perhaps you can list the number of Nazi extermination camps which were built during the 1930's? The Final Solution became policy in 1941. Are you saying that before 1941, Nazi Germany was a Jewish paradise, where Jews were free?
The dehumanization process which led to the Nazi extermination camps was well under way by the late 1930's.
The Zionist State of Israel is about where the Nazi State of Germany was in 1939:
Rights are dependent on race/religion
People of a specific race/religion risk expropriation of property and other ethnic cleansing related threats including violence
An entire group of people is perceived as a threat based on their race/religion.
Indefinite detention without due process, disappearances, torture chambers and other inhumane treatment which only applies to people of a specific race/religion
How many other parallels would you like me to point out? Lets put it this way. If some group was treating Jews like this, we'd both see a problem.
I never claimed that the Zionist state of Israel has extermination camps... yet. Perhaps you can list the number of Nazi extermination camps which were built during the 1930's? The Final Solution became policy in 1941. Are you saying that before 1941, Nazi Germany was a Jewish paradise, where Jews were free?
The dehumanization process which led to the Nazi extermination camps was well under way by the late 1930's.
The Zionist State of Israel is about where the Nazi State of Germany was in 1939:
Rights are dependent on race/religion
People of a specific race/religion risk expropriation of property and other ethnic cleansing related threats including violence
An entire group of people is perceived as a threat based on their race/religion.
Indefinite detention without due process, disappearances, torture chambers and other inhumane treatment which only applies to people of a specific race/religion
How many other parallels would you like me to point out? Lets put it this way. If some group was treating Jews like this, we'd both see a problem.
Do you agree with the statement that Hamas has the goal of wiping all Jews from their Holy Land - That a truce of even 20 years would be used to strengthen their military position -
I agree that this element exists in Hamas and to some degree across the entire Palestinian population. No I don't feel all Palestinians share this hate ideology. I feel the majority of Palestinians only want freedom, justice and peace.
I am against race/religious based entitlement by anyone against anyone. Its racism and discrimination and IMO, the root cause of this conflict.
I see Hamas's racist discriminatory position as similar to Likud's (Israel's current ruling political party) and other right wing Israeli political movements who have the goal of wiping all non-Jews from their Holy Land (the same Holy Land). Israelis have military superiority and use it to violently achieve this goal. These people know that if they cleanse the entire Holy Lands at once, they would attract an unwanted level of attention to their crimes and loose the support of many of their benefactors. So they practice a very slow but deliberate ethnic cleansing policy which over time will effectively remove all non-Jews from this region or imprison them in a series of walled in ghettos where the prisoners are completely dependent on foreign aid and the "generousity" of their Jewish overlords. If you pay attention, its easy to see that areas in this region accessible by Arabs has decreased, while the areas accessible to only Jews increases. Its happening now as we exchange posts on this topic and will continue in the foreseeable future until the ethnic cleansing process is complete.
I also feel that the majority of Israelis want to live in peace and find their government's ethnic cleansing, viscious war crimes and crimes against humanity abhorrent. So the problem IMO, isn't the people in this region, but some of their religious and political leaders.
Like I said, I am against race/religious based entitlement by anyone against anyone.
Like I figured - From Hamas to a major diatribe on Israel and ethnic cleansing. You do not dance well.
Hard questions are quite easy to pose to EAO - getting an clear and definitive answer is nigh unto impossible.
Pity the ignorant as they will sow the seeds of destruction for others to die for.
Anyone else care to weigh in? Supporters of both Hamas and Likud would have you believe only two choices exist. I can think of at least a third.
1) For/Against Hamas's racist discriminatory policies
2) For/Against Likud's racist discriminatory policies
3) For/Against civilians on both sides who want to live in Peace
I'm Against both choice 1 and 2. I am For choice 3
1) For/Against Hamas's racist discriminatory policies
2) For/Against Likud's racist discriminatory policies
3) For/Against civilians on both sides who want to live in Peace
I'm Against both choice 1 and 2. I am For choice 3
And you support Hamas - Comparing Gaza to the Warsaw ghetto is just another of your many examples of hatred of Jews.
Sorry Goobs, but it seems to me that the one spewing hate is you toward EAO. There are a dozen or so people on here who constantly spew anti-Muslim hatred and two or three who try to balance that out with a comparison of Israeli action toward the Palestinians and for their efforts all they get is - "Joo Haters!" What, pray tell, is the difference between a Joo Hater and a Muslim Hater? I think - nothing.
Sorry Cliffy.....but comparing Gaza, where the life expectancy at birth is 73 years, to the Warsaw Ghetto, where the survivors of starvation and shooting were gassed...........where the life expectancy at birth in 1940 was basically measured in weeks.......is evidence of Jew hatred.