So what would you do if you were the one to make the decision regarding bombing or not. What causality rate would be acceptable - what number of rockets - causing harm or not would be acceptable.
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So what would you do if you were the one to make the decision regarding bombing or not. What causality rate would be acceptable - what number of rockets - causing harm or not would be acceptable.
Speaking of dumb agenda trolling, you didn't say "Gazans". You said "in the Palestinian territories."
Unless the people living in the West Bank aren't Palestinian, or living in a Palestinian territory.
I noted you didn't actually refute any of my sources. Just said they were disreputable. So where are your numerous links. I've been through this thread, seen nothing from you in the way of facts. Just Op/Ed crap. I at least posted traceable fact.
So lets see who these disreputable sources are...
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12532166
US National Library of medicine. Ya, there's an agenda driven group of anti Palestinians if you've ever see one.
The Metabolic Syndrome in the West Bank Population
OMG!!! Not the American Diabetes Association!!! Now there's a Zionist hotbed if ever there was one.
List of author's and their affiliations...
Yep, those dirty Zionists are everywhere!!!
http://www.israelwhat.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/14-Obesity.jpg
A list compiled by the WHO, is as close to Zionist propaganda as one could get.
Nice weak argument you have there though.
So what you're saying is, they're justified in attacking us, but we aren't justified in believing that they want to attack us?
Is that question to hard for you to answer?
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Israel's Knesset struggles with free speech - latimes.com
Who thinks Israel is a free democracy? LOL!Government criticism stifled.. Netanyahu is such a lying hypocrite
Who thinks Israel is a free democracy? LOL!Government criticism stifled.. Netanyahu is such a lying hypocrite
Ignoring the facts of my post, and what I gather is a tough question for you to answer, aside...
Funny how the rule of law trumps the posturing of blow hard politicians.
Yes, yes it will.
Funny how the rule of law trumps the posturing of blow hard politicians.
Of course I Was referring to Gaza, you know that area blockaded by the Israeli's ? LMAO.
The West Bank is a whole other story of oppression
You said Palestinian territories. Does that not include the West Bank?
Yes, quite.
You spelled obesity wrong.
I noticed no refuting evidence, that puts my links in disrepute.
So what you're saying is, they're justified in attacking us, but we aren't justified in believing that they want to attack us?
Why is this question so hard for you to answer?
Also funny when someone posts a link that he thinks supports his position without reading the whole thing:smile:
Ohmygod! Israel has a supreme court...what a surprise for abfoot-in-mouth:lol:
There are so many things about Israel that the usual suspects either are unaware of, or remain blissfully and willingly ignorant of.
I thought abtfet stood for ass, ball, torture fetish, non?
Polls by the Israel Democracy Institute, a think tank, found that public support for free-speech rights is declining in Israel and that more than one in three Israelis now say there is "too much" free speech. Support for free expression "regardless of their views" dropped from 90% in 1999 to 74% in 2009. And intolerance for government criticism is rising. In 2009, 58% agreed that it was OK to prohibit "harsh criticism of Israel in public," compared with 48% in 2003, according to the IDI.
"We never had a fundamental problem with freedom of speech until now," said Amir Fuchs, a constitutional law researcher at the IDI. "It's clear that the people of Israel are becoming less democratic and more conservative."
Pakistan has a supreme court, you probably don't think of that country as democratic though do you?
"We never had a fundamental problem with freedom of speech until now," said Amir Fuchs, a constitutional law researcher at the IDI. "It's clear that the people of Israel are becoming less democratic and more conservative."
Pakistan has a supreme court, you probably don't think of that country as democratic though do you?
He sure does. Completely void of reason, logic and critical thought. Not to mention the complete lack of supporting evidence.
I can not condone the attack on free speech, but I can see why the general public would succumb to the draconian thinking that permeates the Arab world, given the lies and vitriol that is levied at israel daily.
Actually, I think of that country as far more democratic than Israel's neighbours.
No it's not a democratic country. The point being, because Israel has a supreme court doesn't make it a democratic country.
Democracy is nothing but an illusion anyways, it exists nowhere.
It is funny however to see some of the pro-Israeli's on here brag about how Israel is such a democratic utopia when they just clearly aren't.
The fact that you're to cowardly to answer my question, or properly refute my links, aside...
Unless of course you're morally bankrupt and believe killing innocent people is justifiable. Like yourself.
Ahhh, the old 'democracy is an illusion' fall back.
No country is perfect. Israel has a long way to go. But compared to its neighbours, Israel is a bastion of decency and righteous democracy.
Unless of course you're morally bankrupt and believe killing innocent people is justifiable. Like yourself.
I don't know about that.
Does Jordan have blasphemy laws that say anyone that insults Islam will be put to death?
If you think there is a country that exists that is completely democratic, well that just puts you amongst the hundreds of millions of other brainwashed Westerners.
Is Syria or Jordan oppressing their Palestinian neighbours ? Are they blockading them and making it increasingly difficult to have a decent standard of living?
Are they occupying anyone?
You don't know about a lot of things.
Nope, but it's still a crime. Their free speech laws are absolutely draconian.
I'm not surprised you chose Jordan.
"If" is a neat word. Thankfully, those without reading comprehension issues would have understood what "No country is perfect" meant.
Better yet, are Palestinians launching rocket attacks on Syria or Jordan? I mean there is still discrimination against Palestinians in Jordan, and don't get me started on how Syria exacerbated the refugee problem, or how they treat Palestinians.
They did, and no one complained.
No, why would they have to fire rockets into those countries? They aren't being oppressed and occupied by Syria and Jordan.
And the treatment of Palestinians in Jordan:
1,951,603 Palestinian refugees are located in Jordan, of whom 338,000 are still living in refugee camps.[29] Following Jordan's annexation of the West Bank, most Palestinian refugees were granted Jordanian citizenship. The percentage of Palestinian refugees living in refugee camps to those who settled outside the camps is the lowest of all UNRWA fields of operations. Palestinian refugees are allowed access to public services and healthcare, as a result, refugee camps are becoming more of poor city suburbs than refugee camps. Most refugees moved out of the camps to other parts of the country reducing the number of refugees in need of UNRWA services to only 338,000. This caused UNRWA to reduce the budget allocated to Palestinian refugee camps in Jordan. Former UNRWA chief-attorney James G. Lindsay says: "In Jordan, where 2 million Palestinian refugees live, all but 167,000 have citizenship, and are fully eligible for government services including education and health care."
I'd love to say 'anymore'. But thankfully you posted the proof that Palestinians are still refugees in Jordan.
Why are there still refugees in Jordan?
Why are Palestinians discriminated against by Jordan?
Your moral relativism may allow you to support the brutal murder of innocent women and children, and the discrimination of Palestinians by their fellow Arabs. But I'm better than that. I do not support the murder of innocent people, full stop. Nor do i support discrimination. Which is why I think Israel has a ways to go. But they are still light years ahead of nations that discriminate, slaughter as a matter of publicly recorded policy, and attack civilians as a written rule.
You're ridiculous and your thoughts and opinions aren't anything but downloaded propaganda from the various trash websites and other propaganda news sources you get your information.
"...attack civilians as a written rule". What a joke, when you spew this nonsense do you not even worry about actual facts ? Apparently not. Who do you seriously think has more innocent blood on its hands, Hamas which fires rockets into Israel or Israel the country with an advanced military and penchant for bombing indiscriminately? Not to mention the harsh blockade it imposes on Gaza that undoubtedly cause a plethora of health issues.
It's a no-brainer.
"...attack civilians as a written rule". What a joke, when you spew this nonsense do you not even worry about actual facts ? Apparently not. Who do you seriously think has more innocent blood on its hands, Hamas which fires rockets into Israel or Israel the country with an advanced military and penchant for bombing indiscriminately? Not to mention the harsh blockade it imposes on Gaza that undoubtedly cause a plethora of health issues.
It's a no-brainer.
And yet you've been unable top disprove anything?
I love it when the usual suspects can't refute the facts and start projecting. It's a guarantee sign, they've lost the debate.
Irrelevant, I do not condone the murder of innocent people, as you do.
I do not support the blockade. But feel free to keep trying to deflect.
And you still can't refute my links?
I guess we know who it is with no brain.