4 reasons why Bradley Manning deserves a medal
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Yes those are my words. Are you misinterpeting them? When I said "It is all out there" I meant that all the info he gave to Wikileaks is out there now and there is not anything that seems to be implicate anyone else with regards to criminal activity.
You know I was answering your assertions that he exposed others that were engaging in criminal activity and they should be arrested as well.
So it wasn't secret info, it was confidential info. Nevertheless... that is a serious crime.
No it's not. It's publicly owned data and apparently no secret according to yourself.
It amounts to a job loss or fine if you work in DC.
All he needs to do is get elected or appointed to Gov and he gets off scott free like Libby or Bush or Clinton?
Slick Willy is roaming free and he sold ****ing nuke designs to China.
That should be a hanging.
No no no... it is not publicly owned data... that's why he's in jail. It is still confidential material.
You're not supposed to give it out.
Espionage can get civillians in trouble too.
Yup, Clinton did allow rocket booster info to be shared with the Chinese. It was foolish. I do not know enough about what Clinton and Bush did to speak on it.
I do know that Manning downloaded confidential material and gave it to Wikileaks and that is a serious crime.
Why not? Is cocaine use and hookers too embarassing for some officials?
Yeah to the tune of a $250,000 and then communicated. When does Slick Willy get out of the pokey for selling nuke designs to China?
Why not? is it too embarassing?
Yup. Worthy of joblessness if it was just embarassing secrets about coke and *****s.
In October 2005, Libby was indicted by a federal grand jury in connection with the investigation of the leak of the covert identity of Central Intelligence Agency officer Valerie Plame Wilson.[3][4][5] Plame's relationship with the CIA was formerly classified information.[3] Libby was indicted on five counts relating to the Plame affair: Two counts of perjury, two counts of making false statements to federal investigators, and one count of obstruction of justice. Libby resigned all three government positions immediately after the indictment was announced.[6]
On June 5, 2007, the presiding trial judge, Reggie B. Walton, sentenced Libby to 30 months in federal prison, a fine of $250,000, and two years of supervised release, including 400 hours of community service,[12][13][14][15] and then ordered Libby to begin his sentence immediately.[16] On July 2, 2007, when Libby's appeal of Walton's order failed, Bush commuted Libby's 30-month prison sentence, leaving the other parts of his sentence intact.[17][18] In commuting Libby's prison term, Bush stated: "I am commuting the portion of Mr. Libby's sentence that required him to spend thirty months in prison. ... My decision to commute his prison sentence leaves in place a harsh punishment for Mr. Libby.
There ya go. that is the going rate for releasing confidential information by a civilian.
30 Months and $250,000 not bad for a Prez assistant. Who took an oath to guard the info he had.
The bottom line is this... Bradley downloaded confidential material and gave it to Wikileaks so now he's in the clink. He will get court martialed because what he did was a crime.
You are simply not supposed to do that sort of thing.
Yup. Presidential pardons are not always so just either. Like this one. I do not support this.
That does not mean Manning should get off.
I never said he should get off. The B U L L S H I T about life in prison is utterly silly though.
If 30 months is the going rate he doesn't have much longer to go.
If 30 months is the going rate he doesn't have much longer to go.
The BS is that Libby was a high ranking Republican and Manning was just a low ranking soldier. Just proves there is no equality in the land of the free.
Yup! Liberty, freedom and justice for all, eh! What a crock.
Will he be cell mates with GW, Slick Willy and Scooter or they get to walk away?
Manning should have faked a blow job from a **** to divert everyones attention.
Manning should have faked a blow job from a **** to divert everyones attention.
Sure! Just don't commit a crime and you can have liberty and freedom!
I had access to confidential material as a Marine. I didn't give any of it away. Here I am!
That's just the way it is.
GW and Clinton didn't get charged with anything. Scooter (was that his name?) did and got convicted but GW commuted part of his sentence. That's BS I agree.
That doesn't mean Manning should walk.
Yup and precident has been set by the Office of the President of the United States of America.Sure! Just don't commit a crime and you can have liberty and freedom!
I had access to confidential material as a Marine. I didn't give any of it away. Here I am!
That's just the way it is.
30 months, $250K for a Presidential assistant obviously on the orders of his boss. If you are the President you can just walk away sell nuke tech, do blow and **** hookers all you want.
It's just embarassing but not illegal or immoral. Right?
You glanced over the inequality of it all. Manning is just a scape goat if the others go free.Sure! Just don't commit a crime and you can have liberty and freedom!
I had access to confidential material as a Marine. I didn't give any of it away. Here I am!
That's just the way it is.
GW and Clinton didn't get charged with anything. Scooter (was that his name?) did and got convicted but GW commuted part of his sentence. That's BS I agree.
That doesn't mean Manning should walk.
Oh, but we are aware of the motto, "My country, right or wrong."
Well, I just heard the first thing that ever gave me the slightest tendency for sympathy for Bradley Manning.
Before Manning's deployment, his sargent recommended he NOT be deployed to Iraq because he was "psychologically unfit"......(for an office job, no less) Unfortunately, the US Army was in need of intel people with Manning's training......so off he went despite the warning.
The guy is simply completely unstable.
Oh, and for all those that defend him as having principled reasons for the release of secret documents: That might be an excuse IF he was releasing documents on a certain subject.........exposing a specific ill, as in the Pentagon Papers.....
But Manning had no idea what he was releasing.....he just stole everything he could.
Nuts.
Before Manning's deployment, his sargent recommended he NOT be deployed to Iraq because he was "psychologically unfit"......(for an office job, no less) Unfortunately, the US Army was in need of intel people with Manning's training......so off he went despite the warning.
The guy is simply completely unstable.
Oh, and for all those that defend him as having principled reasons for the release of secret documents: That might be an excuse IF he was releasing documents on a certain subject.........exposing a specific ill, as in the Pentagon Papers.....
But Manning had no idea what he was releasing.....he just stole everything he could.
Nuts.
As I mentioned before his COs ****ed up royally.
Speaking of the Pentagoon and "confidentiallity". Did that $3.2 Trillion ever turn up yet? How about the missing Billion$ in Iraq?
I'd want **** covered up too if I was scamming that kind of CASH, doing blow and boinking hookers on the taxpayers dollar.
Afghanistan I support but you'll never get me to say a good word about the Iraq lies and corruption that goes right to the top chair of the Whitehouse.
Speaking of the Pentagoon and "confidentiallity". Did that $3.2 Trillion ever turn up yet? How about the missing Billion$ in Iraq?
I'd want **** covered up too if I was scamming that kind of CASH, doing blow and boinking hookers on the taxpayers dollar.
Afghanistan I support but you'll never get me to say a good word about the Iraq lies and corruption that goes right to the top chair of the Whitehouse.
Sorry if you don't like it but 1 in 10 are mentally unstable. Out of that 1 in 10 only 20% get help and only 5% are successfully treated while the remainder are pilled up and cut loose on the streets.
All crime originates in unstable minds.
With 80% being untreated or unaware of their issues ****loads end up doing stupid ****.
One of those would be Manning.
All crime originates in unstable minds.
With 80% being untreated or unaware of their issues ****loads end up doing stupid ****.
One of those would be Manning.
Question to all.
I will use the qualifier "If" People in Afghanistan were identified from the leaks and murdered.Would Manning be complicit / accessory to their murder?
As to Mental Illness you would have to use the US Law - not Canadian Law regarding Insanity.