Police Brutality - Time to get pissed

[Ron in Regina]

That seems like a strange string of events, all of which you are not to blame. Those officers screwed up big time and by the time they realized what they were doing, they tried to cover it up through intimidation instead of recognizing the mistake and stopping right away.
It seems odd that they werent more forth coming at the beginning and asked for your name or some other thing that would have made it obvious that you were the owner.

Odd is an understatement, 2&1/2 to 3 hrs after the call was cancelled. Not identifying
themselves once my dogs were barking at them was odd. Not turning on a flashlight
or anything, but just standing there in the dark in my front yard was odd. Not saying
anything until I came out of my yard and she was already trying to throw me to the
ground was odd. The other one trying to pick a fight with one of my tenants was
odd (by the way, that tenant was the voice of calm reason, to no avail, and also
happens to have a black-belt in Judo...would'a been ugly...). The threat to shot
my dogs through my fence, and then lie about it was odd. The assumption that
my sister was my lawyer (without asking her who she was) was odd. The
police then leaving without any charges being laid was odd. The
language being used by these uniformed officers, along with
their behaviour in general, was odd. Trying to taunt me into
trying to file a complaint, before they left, was odd. Yeah,
I aggree, odd does fit the whole situation. It was odd.

 

[cranky]

The woman being dragged behind you like some sort of failed football tackle must have been hilarious if anyone was watching

 

[captain morgan]

If you believe, I mean truly believe, that the cops had more pressing matters on their hands, they were en route to a violent crime in progress, then you should be able to provide such proof.

Just like I predicted, there is no amount of evidentary proof that will satisfy your ridiculous claims... Thinks about what you just demanded; that someone 'prove' that the police had somewhere better to be....

Here's the 411 for ya TJ Hooker - bike thefts rank at the bottom of the scale in a city like Regina that has a high amount of violent crime.

Jeezus!

Ron, I believe that someone posted a comment in this thread that all we have to do to avoid police brutality is to not break the law. Such simple advice, isn't it? I think in your case, all you needed to do was to ask them to help you get a stolen bike back, and they would have left...

Ron, with respect to the above (retarded) comment... The police are far too busy helping-out little Timmy finding his lost bike.


Yes, yes; I know that crack-heads on your property is very concerning, but perhaps the solution is as simple as getting a bike lock to solve the problem. Maybe you ought to take a couple of pics of you (in a pair of sh*tty fitting glasses) worried about your plight and the CBC will do a full news story to aid you in your dilemma.

But then again, maybe the cops are too preoccupied in finding lost bikes than they are in drug-related crimes in your back yard.

 

[Ron in Regina]

The woman being dragged behind you like some sort of failed football tackle must have been hilarious if anyone was watching

Not at the time (for me, anyway ;-)). Anyway, I don't exactly fit the profile of a
long haired, minority, sports fan, out rioting or looking for trouble, or any
of the other reasons I can think of that might generally be used to justify
this behaviour by law enforcement upon the public.

(there's a picture of myself in my profile that may verify this if you're curious)

I wasn't even out in public and wandered into a conflict (wrong place at the wrong
time concept) unbeknownst to myself. I didn't stumble into a robbery or a
civil disturbance. I didn't go looking for trouble. I wasn't drunk and wandering
the streets. I wasn't anything....and this happened. It was surreal, and if it
happened to someone else (not me), and I wasn't present, I'd have might
very well have difficulty believing them, as we're all brought up (I'm assuming)
to respect and trust authority figures, and give them then benefit of the doubt.

The experience has altered my perception to many of the stories I hear about
police shenanigans that I might have just dismissed out of hand at an earlier
date. The whole, "they must have had it coming" concept that just doesn't
seem to fit with certain people, or YouTube videos, like the guy being removed
from the bicycle at minute three in the video in the Opening Post.

This is why I'm a huge proponent of the public video recording any police
interactions possible. That's the only real protection, as the whole complaints
process is....I'm at a loss for words for the right words on the topic. The system
is.....ineffective, at best.

 

[cranky]

Ron, if i try to explain what happened while giving the police every benefit of the doubt, i still come up with a big WTF?

They should have pulled up to your driveway with the spot light on, and flashlights on. At best, it sounds like the didnt do the spot light and maybe they had their flashlights on.

Is it possible that they came up your driveway with flashlights on and went dark after hearing voices from your back yard before the dogs started barking? If so that was their first screw up that triggered this whole event.....they went dark, and the chic was hell bent to tackle the first person they see. Definitely too much testosterone and not enough basic common sense on their part.

 

[Ron in Regina]

No driveway (I do have a pad out behind the garage) and no lights on the car, or
otherwise. the car was parked across the street, and about three doors down,
out of the line of sight, though there was lots of space closer. It was weird.

To this day, I still don't know if they where responding to the cancelled call from
hours before, or had a wrong address, or something else. I was "resisting arrest"
though I wasn't arrested, and have no idea what I was arrested for that I was
resisting....as I wasn't ever arrested.

Punchline. If this could happen to me, at home, in my own yard....well, I'm just
glad the city cops didn't have Tasers at that time (& I've no idea if they have them
now or not). If they had them, I'm sure I would have gotten it. Excited Delirium my
arse, etc...

 

[cranky]

Parked down the street? They went there looking to sneak and tackle someone and the woman was just too damned inexperienced to know when to stop.

 

[petros]

Punchline. If this could happen to me, at home, in my own yard....well, I'm just glad
the city cops didn't have Tasers at that time (& I've no idea if they have them now or not). If they had them,
I'm sure I would have gotten it. Excited Delirium my arse,
etc...

I just love R.P.D. If you ever need to juice up and put on some muscle I know the right cops to talk to.

 

[JLM]

Well, it looks like the powers that be are starting to pay attention to the thugs' antics here in B.C. with both the Mantler cases and the scene at Vancouver airport, thanks to digital cameras, so maybe that is a weapon that packs a little more punch than their tasers and hopefully ends in their "Waterloo". :lol: (the thugs that is, not the decent dedicated cops)

 

[Tonington]

Could it be that the police might have had a call to something more important? You know, set by PRIORITY? Like a robbery? Or to a kidnapping? Or to a burglary? Or a theft of a car worth more than $10.79 (?) like the boy's bicycle?

Do you think they would have stopped if they were en route to a robbery?

 

[petros]

Do you think they would have stopped if they were en route to a robbery?

I asked that to YJ and Cpt Morgan and others several times but just got deflection.

Maybe some kid will get lucky next time something like this happens and not flag down a traffic cop but get a real one instead.

 

[Lithp]

That video doesn't show police brutality. It shows a bunch of douches who think they can just get away with whatever they want being reminded that they can not. Good for the police. We need more like them. Who aren't afraid to take a stand against anarchy and childish behaviour.

 

[Cliffy]

That video doesn't show police brutality. It shows a bunch of douches who think they can just get away with whatever they want being reminded that they can not. Good for the police. We need more like them. Who aren't afraid to take a stand against anarchy and childish behaviour.

The cripple in the wheel chair who the cops slammed face first into the sidewalk was douche? What planet are you on? I hope you never have to experience police brutality first hand, but then perhaps you would have a little more compassion for your fellow man if you did.

 

[Unforgiven]

There are plenty of Cops who lose themselves in the "respect my authority" concept of law enforcement. Ron's experience like many in Toronto during the G20 and other times isn't all that unusual. Couple a bully with some slight authority and let it go unchecked is a bad mixture. Seems to be the culture the police foster in the ever deepening worry that a cop might get hurt out there. A stupid position to take anyone who isn't beaten and shackled on the ground is a threat to all police. Things need to change and a weeding out of this untalented bunch of thugs is long over due.

 

[Ron in Regina]

There are plenty of Cops who lose themselves in the "respect my authority" concept of law enforcement. Ron's experience like many in Toronto during the G20 and other times isn't all that unusual. Couple a bully with some slight authority and let it go unchecked is a bad mixture. Seems to be the culture the police foster in the ever deepening worry that a cop might get hurt out there. A stupid position to take anyone who isn't beaten and shackled on the ground is a threat to all police. Things need to change and a weeding out of this untalented bunch of thugs is long over due.

I believe I just stumbled across a "Perfect Storm" scenario with two
rookies (older cops have lower badge numbers out here, & these
where both higher numbers) teamed up together on a hot summer
20th of the month. The woman had the lower badge number of the
two of them...& hers was still pretty high.

One of them being a woman try'n to compensate for a lack of penis,
or something along those lines, and maybe try'n to play the roll of
the tough experienced cop for the other guy.

The other guy was the classic little guy overcompensating for years
of being the little guy on the playground, etc...I had about 7 inches of
height on the little guy, and about 75lbs on the female....and I'm not
"that" big. I'm sort'a average sized at 6'2" & 200lbs.

....and on a Baby Bonus night to boot? Just bad....

 

[JLM]

I believe I just stumbled across a "Perfect Storm" scenario with two
rookies (older cops have lower badge numbers out here, & these
where both higher numbers) teamed up together on a hot summer
20th of the month. The woman had the lower badge number of the
two of them...& hers was still pretty high.

One of them being a woman try'n to compensate for a lack of penis,
or something along those lines, and maybe try'n to play the roll of
the tough experienced cop for the other guy.

The other guy was the classic little guy overcompensating for years
of being the little guy on the playground, etc...I had about 7 inches of
height on the little guy, and about 75lbs on the female....and I'm not
"that" big. I'm sort'a average sized at 6'2" & 200lbs.

....and on a Baby Bonus night to boot? Just bad....

Is that Baby Bonus enough yet to cover a bottle of wine? (Been years since I was involved with that) :lol:

 

[Tonington]

What is Baby Bonus? Is that like that Russian holliday where they give people a day off, and advise them to make babies?

 

[Ron in Regina]

What is Baby Bonus? Is that like that Russian holliday where they give people a day off, and advise them to make babies?

.....Sort'a. On the 20th of each month (It's also called "Family Allowance"), those who
are under a certain income bracket, get paid by the government for the number of
children that they have. It use to be a small stipend in days gone by, but has turned
into a chunky piece of change for many of a couple of hundred bucks per child.

Those in a lower income bracket, with many-many children, get a pretty fat cheque on
the 20th of every month. Some spend it wisely on their kids and many have huge blow
-out parties and spend it like the one-day millionaires that they think they are. It's a very
busy day (& night) for retail outlets, liquor stores, drug dealers, the police, etc....

 

[Unforgiven]

What is Baby Bonus? Is that like that Russian holliday where they give people a day off, and advise them to make babies?

Parents of children under 18 get a cheque each month for each kid they have. It's called the baby bonus and most people with a combined income under 100 grand or so get it. I can't remember how much it was for as we stopped qualifying for it not long after we moved out east. I think almost $100 a kid for the younger ones. So when you put together the stress of poverty and a couple hundred bucks on any given evening in the summer, you get a number of drunk and rowdy yahoos looking for trouble. And apparently some cops looking to bust some heads too.

 

[Tonington]

Ahh, OK... family allowance. That's how my first bank account was started. I still have that account, though with many changes to the services :lol: