Harper predicts pain at gas pumps if Layton is in power

[Tonington]

One more thing we could do, how about we just stop selling/giving them food at ridiculously cheap prices. We are the bread basket of the world. If the don't like it they can eat oil, or sell it at a reasonable price. (1 bushel for 1 barrel)

Who is them, and how does this relate to why we should develop 21st century energy technology and infrastructure? Don't talk about ridiculously cheap, when American farmers are subsidized to the teeth.

 

[In Between Man]

Unfortunately I don't think Harper's warning will do any good. The NDP is very popular with the upcoming generation and it's just a matter of time before the left gets a chance to rule.

 

[lone wolf]

So what do you propose? ...kill everyone's firstborn?

 

[Cliffy]

Unfortunately I don't think Harper's warning will do any good. The NDP is very popular with the upcoming generation and it's just a matter of time before the left gets a chance to rule.

What is really funny is that the price of gas has gone up $.20 since December and people are terrified that if Jack got in the price will go up $.10. I would be very surprised if Jack got in with a majority, so all this scare mongering is just the desperate act of a party who has abused its power and is going to lose some of it.

So what do you propose? ...kill everyone's firstborn?

No, just atheists and non-Christians. Oh, and non conservatives.

 

[Durry]

Unfortunately I don't think Harper's warning will do any good. The NDP is very popular with the upcoming generation and it's just a matter of time before the left gets a chance to rule.

Yes, the upcoming generation is leaning towards the left alright.
They are coming from a culture of hand outs and it seems they have little knowledge of what it takes to build a strong democracy.

 

[Colpy]

Unfortunately I don't think Harper's warning will do any good. The NDP is very popular with the upcoming generation and it's just a matter of time before the left gets a chance to rule.

Except that most people grow up and their brain stem becomes fully attached........precluding any vote for a socialist party.

I voted NDP in the 70s.

 

[mentalfloss]

Yes, the upcoming generation is leaning towards the left alright.
They are coming from a culture of hand outs and it seems they have little knowledge of what it takes to build a strong democracy.

 

[lone wolf]

Except that most people grow up and their brain stem becomes fully attached........precluding any vote for a socialist party.

I voted NDP in the 70s.

Lookit what happened to Samson after the haircut.... ;-)

Yes, the upcoming generation is leaning towards the left alright.
They are coming from a culture of hand outs and it seems they have little knowledge of what it takes to build a strong democracy.

And that would be?...

 

[cranky]

you reach a certain point in life, where you know the 'mother knows best' mentality of the left is 100% mental and only partial reality

 

[lone wolf]

...then you go for the right teat and it's sour....

 

[Cliffy]

Except that most people grow up and their brain stem becomes fully attached........precluding any vote for a socialist party.

I voted NDP in the 70s.

So what you are saying is that anyone who doesn't vote conservative is brain dead. And you asked me to play nice. Gi' yer hed a shake, mon.

 

[Jack_Of_Spade]

Harper predicts pain at gas pumps should Layton grab share of power

Stephen Harper is warning an NDP-led coalition government would raid Canadians’ pocketbooks and savage the economy as the Conservative Leader tries to curb surging support for Jack Layton that imperils his long-sought Tory majority.

He’s predicting, for instance, that the NDP’s cap-and-trade system to restrict greenhouse gas emissions would boost gas prices in Canada by 10 cents a litre.

And he's cautioning that Mr. Layton could damage cross-border commerce with Canada’s biggest trading partner.

"The NDP has been Canada’s most consistent, most vociferous and most aggressive opponent of a strong trading relationship with the United States,” Mr. Harper warned during a campaign stop in Niagara Falls Thursday morning. “The NDP approach to issues like trade has not changed since the Cold War. It is an ideological throwback.”

The Tories are struggling to confront the rise in the polls for Mr. Layton and Mr. Harper only began sharpening his attack on the New Democrats Wednesday evening. Speaking in Niagara Falls Thursday morning, Mr. Harper said he hopes Canadians think carefully about how Layton’s policies would affect their tax burden and for the economy.

In Quebec, for instance, where the NDP is first in the polls, Mr. Harper said he can’t believe the provinces would embrace Mr. Layton if they read his platform. He says he thinks the province would from tax and levy hikes promised in the NDP platform, from increase in premiums for the Canada Pension Plan to hikes in Employment Insurance levies to increased taxes on businesses.

“Quebeckers ... are one of the most overtaxed people in the world,” he said. “They are not, in my view, knowingly going to vote for a party or a coalition that will bring enormous tax increases on them at the federal level.” Mr. Harper is jetting to Quebec later Thursday to try to arrest an apparent plunge in Conservative support there.

The latest polling from Nanos Research shows the Tories with 36.6 per cent of national support followed by the NDP at 30.4 per cent and the Liberals far down at 21.4 per cent. In Quebec, Nanos suggests the NDP has soared to 42.5 per cent of voter support with the Bloc Quebecois lagging at 25.1 per cent and the Tories at 13.5 per cent.

The Conservatives are directing media to call University of Calgary economist Jack Mintz Thursday. Mr. Mintz says his calculations show the NDP’s proposal for a cap-and-trade system to restrict greenhouse gas emissions would add 10 cents a litre to gas prices in the early days and 18 cents a litre by 2014.

“The alternative the opposition offers, symbolized most dramatically by the NDP, are enormous increases in government expenses, the raising of taxes, the raising of prices, which we know will have a devastating effect on consumers’ pocket[books] and ultimately on our economy,” Mr. Harper warned.

He said his fundamental pitch to Canadians hasn’t changed with the NDP surge. Mr. Harper has since Day 1 of the campaign warned that unless he gets a majority, the opposition parties would unite to replace him with their own coalition.

Now, Mr. Harper says, it’s Mr. Layton that he believes would lead the charge. He predicts the coalition would lead to “higher taxes, higher spending and protectionism” in Canada. “Canadians need to understand how dramatically different the choices really are when you are looking at two Parliaments: one with a Conservative majority, the other a minority Parliament with a ramshackle coalition led by the NDP that will not last but will do a lot of destruction.”


Harper predicts pain at gas pumps should Layton grab share of power - The Globe and Mail

Sounds like the fear mongerings of a leader who himself is getting realy scared. I'm votting NDP ! Fear mongering politics belong in the United states! Oh ya forgot Harpers campain advisors and expetrs are Americans . Is it posssible that the instability cause by attacking yet another country unprovoked (Lybia) may have something to do with unstable gaz prices. Or naybe its thew demand that these elegitimate wars make on fuel consomptions .

 

[cranky]

thats funny, in the english debates, Harper was the only politician that wasn't fear mongering.

 

[Cliffy]

thats funny, in the english debates, Harper was the only politician that wasn't fear mongering.

But it appears that the debates have cost him votes, none the less, otherwise, why would he be doing so much fear mongering now?

 

[Jack_Of_Spade]

It will be depleted within the next 100 - 150 years.
We'll be seriously screwed if we don't starting changing soon.



Cap and trade is not a perfect system, but it will help a little.

Ultimately, I'd prefer the carbon tax combined with forcing industry emissions reductions as the only way to curb this. Nothing less than a complete reorganisation of society and technology to leave most remaining fossil fuels safely underground.

This is always painted by the right as some really scary economic prospect, but really, it's not. It's a matter of slowly reducing the emissions and gradually reducing our dependency in such a way that the the economy can regulate itself.

10 cents per litre is a pretty forgiveable sacrifice to make.

in the last 200 years we went from riding chariets pulled by horses to flying accross cotinents in 5 hours and harnessing the power of the atom. I am conviced that befor we get to the next 100 years we will acheive far more enegy inovations.
I do however subscribe to building our citties more energy concerving and to tuffer polution standard because polution is an emediate danger to us.

What is really funny is that the price of gas has gone up $.20 since December and people are terrified that if Jack got in the price will go up $.10. I would be very surprised if Jack got in with a majority, so all this scare mongering is just the desperate act of a party who has abused its power and is going to lose some of it.


No, just atheists and non-Christians. Oh, and non conservatives.

Has anyone notice how Canadian Concervative thinking is starting to look alot like republican thinking from our neighbors down south?

 

[cranky]

if all that friggin oil came from dinosaurs, then most of the CO2 was in our ecosystem at one time. the world didn't come to an end, and man didn't go extinct, even with his limited technology of the time.....clubs and rocks......maybe the odd wheel cart

 

[Jack_Of_Spade]

Except that most people grow up and their brain stem becomes fully attached........precluding any vote for a socialist party.

I voted NDP in the 70s.

If there lucky the brain stem becomes attached but if there not lucky they go through life being a card carring concervative member with a leader to make disisions for them. So what your saying is theres still hope for you Colpy?

 

[Cliffy]

Has anyone notice how Canadian Concervative thinking is starting to look alot like republican thinking from our neighbors down south?

No kidding! Might have something to do with the fact that Harper hired Republican PD guys, campaign managers and handlers. Just prepping us for the North American Union. Didn't the G8/G20 summit look like it was organized and choreographed by Homeland Security?

 

[Jack_Of_Spade]

Ok, I'm convinced, I agree with you, Jack really is an idiot !!

Did you say $70 billions? What are those jets gona cost us again that the concervative want to buy? Oh ya more htne 70 billion!

 

[Cliffy]

if all that friggin oil came from dinosaurs, then most of the CO2 was in our ecosystem at one time. the world didn't come to an end, and man didn't go extinct, even with his limited technology of the time.....clubs and rocks......maybe the odd wheel cart

Unh! The dinosaurs went extinct in a massive cataclysmic even that killed off 90 - 95% of all life on Earth. Humming beings weren't around at the time. CO2 is not the problem, it is the toxic soup we are dumping in air, water and land that will bring about our extinction - that and stupidity and arrogance.