Injustice: Prince of Pot Denied Transfer to Cdn Jail

[bill barilko]

He was and remains a political prisoner.

He is a notorious mouthpiece/terrible listener/idiot/wanker is what he is.

It isn't about stopping seed sales in the US or Canada or money or anything else. Google Cannabis Seed Sales, see how difficult it is.

I did and not one of the companies I found would ship to the USA.

That's also a search I did when Emory was first busted years ago-he used to brag he was the only company that did and look where he got him.

He wasn't in the US.

He sure is now!

As I've said before if that millionaire jerk wants sympathy he can look in the dictionary between sh!t & syphilis.

 

[CDNBear]

He was and remains a political prisoner. Our government under spurious laws, put someone in prison for their political beliefs.

Money laundering is a political belief?

 

[Nuggler]

**** that prick; I hope he rots in prison. The dirty ****er. Selling SEEDS. Oh the diry cocksucker ****ing **** bastard. He should be hung, drawn, dried and................smoked. **** off. hee hee hee. He ain't no martyr..........Now if he had seeds that actually EXPLODED............

 

[Unforgiven]

He is a notorious mouthpiece/terrible listener/idiot/wanker is what he is.

So was the last Prime Minister but he's still walking around, yapping his idiot wanker face off to invited guests who ask no questions.

I did and not one of the companies I found would ship to the USA.

Liar.

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One, two and three all ship to the US no problem.

That's also a search I did when Emory was first busted years ago-he used to brag he was the only company that did and look where he got him.

You don't even know how to spell his name and it's posted dozens of times right here in this thread. So not only are you a liar as I have shown here, you also can't do a lick of research into the subject. That's just lazy.

He sure is now!

As a political prisoner. I guess you are going to have to suck it up should the government change and since the stage is set, work at eliminating those who oppose the political view of the government. We all know you are too cowardly to do anything about it so it won't be difficult. I'll try and keep quiet while they take you away.

As I've said before if that millionaire jerk wants sympathy he can look in the dictionary between sh!t & syphilis.

He has tons of sympathy and not only that but so many people think so much of him, he gets the maximum amount of money transfered into his account at the prison each month. From donations and his wife. I suppose the list of your friends sending you cash is a little shorter than his isn't it? lol

Man is there anyone here who hasn't tuned you're ass in on one subject or another? Some would just consider a name change.

Money laundering is a political belief?

Nope money laundering is what the US government threatened him with along with a life term, his wife and friend being prosecuted and a trial lasting years which would bankrupt him long before it concluded. Mean while he would not be granted bail as he would be a prisoner extradited to the US. Common in the drug trial culture. Just plea bargain and well let you go. Emery would have been home and released by now if he was allowed to return to Canada to serve the rest of his sentence.

Not in the plea bargain his lawyer and the US government agreed to. One charge of drug distribution. 5 years for seeds. You think he isn't a political prisoner?

 

[Bar Sinister]

80% of Canadians didn't support the extradition. The courts never spoke for Canadians one bit, they only opened the door to some very spooky possibilities.

Emery took the guilty plea to keep two friends from going down hard. That takes serious balls to not be a rat and take the heat of a bull**** charge.

He didn't distribute any drugs. Seed contains no psychoactive chemicals.

I believe that in an independent court system it is not supposed to matter what anyone in the population thinks - only that the law is correctly interpreted.

And the last statement is sort of like saying that guns don't kill people; bullets kill people. I expect if you examine the law regarding cannabis you will find that possession of seeds for growing the plant is also against the law.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

He was and remains a political prisoner.

Nope sorry, Nelson Mandela was a political prisoner.

This guy was just an arrogant ass.

I believe that marijuana you be legalized, but until the law changes common sense has to prevail.

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[Bar Sinister]

How about all the gun runners/smugglers from the US who ship weapons into our country which directly tie into many of our gun-related crimes?

Tell me the last time you heard the Canadian Government or Courts demand from the US to extradite one of their citizens for committing crimes in our nation without even stepping foot in it. When was the last case where the US shipped one of their gun smugglers to our country to face charges and jail time?

I looked for the answer a couple of days ago and found nothing. The closest I could find was during a particular case the government alerted US officials about one of their citizens smuggling weapons that were directly linked to crimes in our nation.... but it ended there. There was no information on whether the US officials ever bothered looking into the matter, let alone if they ever charged/arrested the person in question.

Emery sold some seeds on the web to some people in the US..... they weren't even plants, yet the US considers each seed as one fully grown plant and charge as such..... yet anybody who ever grew a flower, tomato plant or apple tree.... frig, even a kid in grade 3 growing a potato or bean for a class project could tell you that not every seed is assured to grow, let alone even sprout a leaf.

And pot doesn't even kill people, be that directly or indirectly..... but those weapons being shipped across our border from the US do.... they're designed specifically to do so, so where are all these gun runners being extradited to our country to face the law?

Hmmm... there's a tumble weed blowing by, but nobody lined up for extradition..... how odd.

People who murder and rape get lesser jail times then Emery, and they won't even send him back here to serve the rest of his sentence.

And people think that's a brilliant idea?

If Emery is really that bad of a person and that much of a danger to society, especially towards the US, wouldn't you guys think that it'd be a bad idea to send him to a medium security US prison where he is surrounded by US criminals who know the US system and could possibly end up as future contacts whom can ship more pot into the US for him??

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I think you are trying to justify one wrong by pointing to another. Just because the US attitude toward firearms makes little sense does not mean that helping Americans break the law is justified. You cannot justify one wrong by pointing to another.

So far as Mr. Emery was concerned he knew exactly what he was doing and dared the Americans to do something about it. They did so by asking the Canadian justice system to extradite Emery to the US and the Canadian courts agreed with them. Extradition to the US from Canada is not always a given, but if Canadian law supports American law then it can happen. You and Mr. Emery might not like US laws regarding marijuana possession, but isn't it up to the Americans to change their own laws if they don't make sense? I don't agree with a great many things that occur in the US, but it does not mean that I send materials across the border in order to help Americans break the law.

 

[Unforgiven]

Nope sorry, Nelson Mandela was a political prisoner.

This guy was just an arrogant ass.

I believe that marijuana you be legalized, but until the law changes common sense has to prevail.

Arrogant is a crime now? How about just talking about how stupid the drug war is? Emery has done nothing more than talk about how stupid and useless the drug war is, encouraged people to smoke and grow Cannabis and sell seeds for people to plant to grow their own so they don't have to support organized crime.

That seems like common sense to me. Faced with a set of laws that are more harm than what they are attempting to prohibit, feed organized crime and victimize vulnerable people.

Not much will ever change by shutting up and keeping the subject out of the news.

 

[Praxius]

So here's the deal. I got a bad post rating for my post and I think I'm going to need to take some time off.

I mean a counter argument would have been tough enough, but a negative rating. Oh my god, the humility.

Anyone have a joint?

There you go, I figured your thumb ratings were uneven so I gave you another one down to balance it out.

You're welcome :lol:

But being serious, I didn't agree with your statement.

Nope sorry, Nelson Mandela was a political prisoner.

This guy was just an arrogant ass.

I believe that marijuana you be legalized, but until the law changes common sense has to prevail.

Yet if the laws were obeyed all the time, then nothing would change and it would remain illegal.

I think you are trying to justify one wrong by pointing to another.

Yes you would be correct.

Just because the US attitude toward firearms makes little sense does not mean that helping Americans break the law is justified. You cannot justify one wrong by pointing to another.

Even when one wrong costs innocent people's lives in our country, while the other wrong merely makes people get the munchies in theirs?

So far as Mr. Emery was concerned he knew exactly what he was doing and dared the Americans to do something about it.

That's an assumption in regards to what he knew or thought.

They did so by asking the Canadian justice system to extradite Emery to the US and the Canadian courts agreed with them. Extradition to the US from Canada is not always a given, but if Canadian law supports American law then it can happen.

But our laws don't support US Laws, because marijuana seeds are not an illegal substance here..... they're not even a controlled substance.

You and Mr. Emery might not like US laws regarding marijuana possession, but isn't it up to the Americans to change their own laws if they don't make sense?

Yup, and they should charge their own citizens for trying to purchase a legal product here in Canada, rather then send a Canadian to US prison for doing something he was legally allowed to do in this country..... they were the ones breaking US law.... while within the US.

I don't agree with a great many things that occur in the US, but it does not mean that I send materials across the border in order to help Americans break the law.

Once again, since I don't see much being done to steem the flow of firearms coming into our country from the US, which is a far worse crime and harms many more people in our nation then pot seeds going to the US, it's a tit for tat situation..... in which we shouldn't be extraditing anybody from our nation to the US until they start coughing up some of these gun smugglers.

They're committing crimes in our country without stepping foot in our country, and we have people doing the same to the US.... yet there only seems to be a one-way flow of traffic when it comes to extraditions and because of that, this entire situation is unjust, him being extradited to the US is unjust, the US breaking their legal agreements of letting him serve the rest of his sentence in Canada is unjust, hearing nothing about the US citizens buying seeds from him going to jail is unjust, and the entire situation reeks of Conservative US-Ass kissing like always.

 

[JLM]

Arrogant is a crime now? How about just talking about how stupid the drug war is? Emery has done nothing more than talk about how stupid and useless the drug war is, encouraged people to smoke and grow Cannabis and sell seeds for people to plant to grow their own so they don't have to support organized crime.

That seems like common sense to me. Faced with a set of laws that are more harm than what they are attempting to prohibit, feed organized crime and victimize vulnerable people.

Not much will ever change by shutting up and keeping the subject out of the news.

If you have contempt for the you go through legal channels to get it changed - you DON'T encourage others to be in contempt of the law. :smile:

 

[MHz]

........encouraged people to smoke and grow Cannabis and sell seeds for people to plant to grow their own so they don't have to support organized crime.

He should have done some history, the biggest (and most ruthless) drug dealers in the US is the CIA.

[White Out: The CIA, Drugs and the Press] - C-SPAN Video Library

 

[DaSleeper]

By the same token, should Ian Thompson be sent to jail for defending his home against firebombing invaders, I will claim that he is a political prisoner...
Will you join me Colpy?:smile:

 

[Unforgiven]

If you have contempt for the you go through legal channels to get it changed - you DON'T encourage others to be in contempt of the law. :smile:

Like the gun registry? Seems like one minute it's law and order and then the next, it's not with you guys.
Emery was going through legal channels to change the law. He was supporting grass roots political movements and organizing public protests to challenge the laws and put the issues in the public eye. That's what got him railroaded
and sitting in jail in the US. It sure isn't about selling seeds or there would be no seed sellers posting their wares on the Internet.

By the same token, should Ian Thompson be sent to jail for defending his home against firebombing invaders, I will claim that he is a political prisoner...
Will you join me Colpy?:smile:

Yeah selling seeds to someone who comes to you for them and shooting at someone running away are basically the same thing actually. Nah not basically, it is exactly the same thing. You come to think of it, I wonder if in the national interest and all, Thompson should be also charged with conspiracy to cultivate and trafficking of lead. Regardless of some deluded "medicinal" need for it.

Colpy will you join us?

 

[petros]

One of the people Emery sacrificed himself to keep out jail because they would die in jail died recently......

If Michelle Rainey would have died in jail after being extradited just as said would happen, would it have been a good thing for the justice system?

 

[earth_as_one]

BTW, marijuana seeds are illegal to possess or sell in Canada. Very few people are convicted, because in in order to convict, the police would have to germinate the seeds and grow a pot plant in order to prove they were illegal. The cost of doing that would be far less than the probable $200 fine.

A majority of Canadians support Marc Emery's efforts to end the marijuana prohibition.
http://www.visioncritical.com/public-opinion/3122/canadian_majority_would_legalize_marijuana1/

One of the people Emery sacrificed himself to keep out jail because they would die in jail died yesterday......

If Michelle Rainey would have died in jail after being extradited just as said would happen, would it have been a good thing for the justice system?

Michelle Rainey
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June 14, 1971 - October 20, 2010

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Her husband Jef, is continuing the work, so the Medicinal Cannabis Education Package and Medicinal T-Shirts are still available.

In her honour, a non profit will be established, the Michelle Rainey Foundation: Continuing Crohn's, Cancer and Cannabis Research.

Also look for upcoming details about Oct 20th: Michelle Rainey Day around the globe.

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[Unforgiven]

I find all the tax collected on those sales to be a delicious contradiction. No matter what the cost in human suffering, there is always someone who wants to make some profit off of it. You would figure our government should be held to a higher standard than scumbag predation on vulnerable people.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Arrogant is a crime now?

No breaking the law is though.

How about just talking about how stupid the drug war is? Emery has done nothing more than talk about how stupid and useless the drug war is, encouraged people to smoke and grow Cannabis and sell seeds for people to plant to grow their own so they don't have to support organized crime.

First of all, just because you think a law is stupid doesn't mean you are above it.

Mr. Emery, 52, was sent to jail last September, after being convicted of selling mail-order marijuana seeds to U.S. customers from his cannabis headquarters in Vancouver.

That's arrogance and quite stupid. Emery could have continued here in Canada and used multimedia to further his cause, but he chose to take it a step farther and is now paying the price for it.

That seems like common sense to me. Faced with a set of laws that are more harm than what they are attempting to prohibit, feed organized crime and victimize vulnerable people.

I don't disagree that the War on drugs, especially cannabis is a colossal waster of resources; however, the strategy Emery has employed in his activism was stupid.

Not much will ever change by shutting up and keeping the subject out of the news.

He didn't have to shut up. Speech is free, [except around this place cough cough] he could have advocated, pontificated, wrote, and anything else.

He chose to break the law and until that stupid law is struck down it is still illegal.

 

[bill barilko]

I wonder how long it took the ragged prince of potties to straighten out in jail?

24 hrs? 48?

Once the cravings for dope hit him did he start to sweat and twitch?

Has he turned to other drugs that have been smuggled in?

Because prisons always have something going.

Does he have a boyfriend?

Does his wife mind?

 

[DaSleeper]

Yeah selling seeds to someone who comes to you for them and shooting at someone running away are basically the same thing actually. Nah not basically, it is exactly the same thing. You come to think of it, I wonder if in the national interest and all, Thompson should be also charged with conspiracy to cultivate and trafficking of lead. Regardless of some deluded "medicinal" need for it.

Colpy will you join us?

Making things up again?? tut tut
They ran away after he shot at them.
and I'm all for lead poisoning for someone throwing molotovs at my house

 

[Unforgiven]

No breaking the law is though.

It was a law in another country that he wan't in when he broke it.

First of all, just because you think a law is stupid doesn't mean you are above it. That's arrogance and quite stupid. Emery could have continued here in Canada and used multimedia to further his cause, but he chose to take it a step farther and is now paying the price for it.

If the court says the law fails then we all are above it. The court in Ontario just struck the law down again.
He isn't paying the price for it. If he was paying the price for it it would not even amount to a charge. Because it costs more to enforce that law than what is recovered in fines. No one is harmed from a Cannabis seed even in the longest stretch of the imagination. Seeds are shipped around the world including the US right this very moment as I have shown in the links I posted. So while applying the harshest of punishment to Emery, both the Canadian and American government allow others to do exactly what Emery was doing only because they don't promote the idea that the laws are bad, they hurt people and should be changed. That isn't justice mate.

I don't disagree that the War on drugs, especially cannabis is a colossal waster of resources; however, the strategy Emery has employed in his activism was stupid.

Stupid in that the power of government officials can be used to exact personal vengeance on someone for embarrassing them as they support failing and unjust laws for money.

He didn't have to shut up. Speech is free, [except around this place cough cough] he could have advocated, pontificated, wrote, and anything else.

Sure but for the fact that his friend would have died in an American prison, his wife would have been locked up in the US as well, and he would face life in prison in a country that now has a reputation under the guise of national security of making people disappear.

He chose to break the law and until that stupid law is struck down it is still illegal.

It's only legal as long as enough people support it. Using it as a tool to silence political descent is tyranny. We each are vulnerable alone in the face of it. If we ignore that tyranny when it attacks others, we're left alone to face it when it attacks us.

Making things up again?? tut tut
They ran away after he shot at them.
and I'm all for lead poisoning for someone throwing molotovs at my house

How do you feel about people just shooting their guns off and hitting your house?

Execution style or sniper from the top of the barn?