Pirates......

Johnny Utah

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Are you going to dress like someone who can crawl up the shiit pipe of an oceanliner or are you going to dress like someone who shops at Gay Mart or Homo Depot?

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Colpy

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Pirates have hijacked a Danish sailboat with four adults and three children aboard as they were crossing the Indian Ocean, Denmark's government said Monday.
Most hostages captured in the pirate-infested waters off East Africa are professional sailors, not families. Pirates are not known to have captured children before.
The Danish Foreign Ministry said the ship sent a distress signal on Thursday. On board was a Danish couple, their three children — aged 12 to 16 — and two adult crew members, also Danes.
Somali pirates have extended their range east and south after increased naval patrols in the Gulf of Aden. They hold more than 660 hostages and some 30 vessels. If a vessel's owner is unable to pay the multimillion dollar ransoms the pirates demand, they may keep it and use it to stalk other vessels until they run out of supplies or break down.
Yep.

Just stay out of their waters........which soon will consist of anything wet south of the Suez Canal.

Arm ships.

Destroy land bases.

Retake captured vessels.

Punish those that pay ransom.

Kill pirates.

That is the ONLY way to solve the problem.
 

Trotz

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I would laugh if an American tanker full of guns was seized.

But more often than not, it's Tom and Joe from across the street and they're transporting a cargo of children toys, food, medicine, cars; et al. People have recommended missiles but missiles are expensive, I recommend we just install a 61 Vulcan Gattling Gun on every single naval vessel and give them permission to shoot on boats with armed Somalians on them.
 

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US Navy Now Zapping Boats




The Navy and Northrop Grumman announced yesterday that for the first time a program that integrates solid state lasers on naval vessel had engaged another boat moving across the water. I realize this was reported yesterday, but I wanted to get the discussion going here since Defense Tech has covered the development of the Boeing�s Advanced Tactical laser which fires a beam from an airborne C-130 and the Laser Avenger, an updated air defense Humvee which can engage UAVs, cruise missiles and other aerial targets.

http://defensetech.org/2011/04/12/us-navy-now-zapping-boats/
 

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Better still when are unarmed ships going to stop sailing in those waters knowing the pirates
are there waiting. If there are going to be ships passing through there they should be armed
or escorted by armed vessels. If people continue to sail in dangerous waters without taking
precaution they should expect to encounter difficulties. At the same time, we have allowed
nations to be taken over by crazy people and we do nothing about it from a United Nations
standpoint. As long as we allow the nut cases to rule or worse allow a vacuum of order to
exist we can expect this to continue. Oh of course, to do something about it would cost
someone some money and God help us if we actually spend money trying to fix a problem
we should never have let get out of control in the first place.
We can expect this to go on until we have the collective will to do something about it that is
how long.
 

ironsides

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Better still when are unarmed ships going to stop sailing in those waters knowing the pirates
are there waiting. If there are going to be ships passing through there they should be armed
or escorted by armed vessels. If people continue to sail in dangerous waters without taking
precaution they should expect to encounter difficulties. At the same time, we have allowed
nations to be taken over by crazy people and we do nothing about it from a United Nations
standpoint. As long as we allow the nut cases to rule or worse allow a vacuum of order to
exist we can expect this to continue. Oh of course, to do something about it would cost
someone some money and God help us if we actually spend money trying to fix a problem
we should never have let get out of control in the first place.
We can expect this to go on until we have the collective will to do something about it that is
how long.
As soon as the shipping unions and companies allow the their members to take training in the use of the .50 machine gun, and all countries allow armed merchant ships to enter their territorial waters.
 

damngrumpy

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The point is most of the companies should employ those who know how to use such weapons
and put them aboard as much fire power as needed. Any country that does not want these
commerical vessels in their waters does not want their ports to have a commercial enterprise.
It is time to take control of the situation. The sea lanes are to vast an area to be able to patrol
every square mile. We do need to center on the problem though and find some solution to the
problem.
 

ironsides

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The point is most of the companies should employ those who know how to use such weapons
and put them aboard as much fire power as needed. Any country that does not want these
commerical vessels in their waters does not want their ports to have a commercial enterprise.
It is time to take control of the situation. The sea lanes are to vast an area to be able to patrol
every square mile. We do need to center on the problem though and find some solution to the
problem.

The pirate bases and ports are well known, we could shut them down permanently and actually try those caught in a international court or allow who ever catches them to try them.
 

JLM

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The point is most of the companies should employ those who know how to use such weapons
and put them aboard as much fire power as needed. Any country that does not want these
commerical vessels in their waters does not want their ports to have a commercial enterprise.
It is time to take control of the situation. The sea lanes are to vast an area to be able to patrol
every square mile. We do need to center on the problem though and find some solution to the
problem.

On the world scale of problems I think this one would be pretty easily solvable. Do we need to get George Bush out of retirement to get it solved? :lol:
 

Colpy

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The point is most of the companies should employ those who know how to use such weapons
and put them aboard as much fire power as needed. Any country that does not want these
commerical vessels in their waters does not want their ports to have a commercial enterprise.
It is time to take control of the situation. The sea lanes are to vast an area to be able to patrol
every square mile. We do need to center on the problem though and find some solution to the
problem.

And as I have said before, it would not require much. If the pirates can not board, there is nothing they can do. Small arms and training for the crew, the small arms available to the watch.........

Pirates were turned away from a cruise liner last year.....by two Israeli private security professionals......armed with pistols, fer crying out loud.
 

ironsides

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No one mentioning the fact that merchant ships are not allowed to be armed. Private ship owners would do a far better job of security. No enough countries are acting fast enough in allowing armed merchant ships to sail in their waters or dock in their ports.

NEW DELHI: Faced with increasing incidents of pirate attacks, the government is considering allowing armed guards to be deployed on Indian merchant ships to enable them to retaliate in case of an attempt by sea brigands to take over the vessels.
"Sources in the Indian Navy on Tuesday said the government is considering a shipping ministry proposal which talks about allowing armed guards to man merchant ships in order to protect them from pirates."
Govt considering allowing armed guards on merchant ships - Times Of India

Pirates of course don't need to concern themselves with the legalities for their weapons since they are not facing any sort of legal challenge.



"Unfortunately in this case, the non-deadly LRAD system and fire hoses were not enough to prevent the pirates from boarding."


Fred Fry International: On Defending Unarmed Merchant Ships Against Pirates
 

EagleSmack

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Yep.

Just stay out of their waters........which soon will consist of anything wet south of the Suez Canal.

Arm ships.

Destroy land bases.

Retake captured vessels.

Punish those that pay ransom.

Kill pirates.

That is the ONLY way to solve the problem.

And then have a big party on the beach with loads of rum... lots of gunfire in the air... just like on the Pirates of the Carribean ride in Disney World!