Contempt for conservatives
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No you didn't- google the word "analogy" and then you may be able to figure it out. :smile:
I think if you check Canadian troop deployments around the world you'll find you are more of a cop than you want to admit.
Good reason to get rid of the old guard parties. We've been sold a bill of goods. We were supposed to be in Afghanistan as a police action and Harper upgraded it to a war. Martin had no business getting us involved in that freak show in the first place. We have no business engaging in wars on foreign land. Our military should only be used for self defense. If politicians want to engage in wars, let them strap on six guns and go shoot it out.
I'm calling Bull**** on this one...........we went to Afghanistan on the Liberals watch........and the Liberals sent us to Kandahar, the toughest province in the country.........
Harper upgraded nothing, unless you call giving the troops equipment starting a war. Indeed, Harper has downgraded the war, turning it into a training assignment.
Well, you call bull on anything that does not show Harper with a halo. You seem to be dazzled by his artificial light - can't do no wrong Harper. I'm sure he knows if I know that all we are doing in Afghanistan is protecting the poppy crops for our US overlords. That makes him a criminal no better than any tin pot dictator like Qdaffy (our quack de jour). Not sure if Martin was aware of the situation before he got suckered into that quagmire. Like I said, the Cons and the Libs need to go the way of the dinosaur.
Your sense of peacefulness up in your safe northern cabin before the corps come in to kick you out to dig up the mineral-rock underneath you is equally immense.
The simple fact is, nobody's read history, or they'd know how unregulated economics leads to a viscous feedback cycle of ownership and control, which you would know if you'd studied second year calculus.
??? I'm confused.
The whole definition of a Peace-maker is to be a cop.
Let me guess... more knowledge lost by just waiting for generations to die untaught in order for evil to try again.
Not at all. Somalia was about aid and having to protect it from warlords who would take it all for their militia. So picking the side of people trying to get some of the food we sent them isn't as evil as you make it out to be. Certainly not the picking of sides Bushco did in Iraq.
The Serbs created their own guilt, which I might add was shown for exactly what it was in the Hague as Serbs were tried for war crimes and crimes against humanity. Milošević wasn't some misunderstood humanitarian caught up in doing what was right in the face of a greater evil. He was a fu cking nut case who slaughtered people wholesale based on their ethnic origin, took to ethnic cleansing and ordered rape to be used as a part of the roe.
It's there for everyone to look at.
When you say that jingoism and imperialism are an obligation and a free pass to enter and use military force on sovereign countries who have not requested any such thing, then you run the risk of turn about. At what point does another country help us with the Indian problem? Or the way Canadian women are murdered in honour killings?
If the people of a nation want regime change then they get up and spill the blood. Every time we try and do it for them, it turns around and gets flung in our collective faces. When does that sink in?
I am all helping allies in need, but they have to ask and want help rather than our own unilateral injection of a version of freedom that is neither wanted nor needed. We stop fights, we don't pick winners. That is what made us a trusted and great nation for peace rather than a self proclaimed world cop who turns to full on pout mode when those we harm bring it right back to us.
We have no business in Libya, just as the France has no business in Quebec sedition and separation. We don't get to pick and choose when the rules apply to our actions and when they don't. Consequences being what they are.
Bushco lied to secure a friendly relationship with Iraq oil which prevents Russian interests from doing the same.
The time is coming when this sort of crap is going to force a showdown when Russian or Chinese military suddenly turn up enforce on the same patch of ground. Don't think that isn't coming.
Not quite. Afghanistan was a defensive maneuver as under Taliban rule, Afghanistan became a safe harbor and training ground for international terrorism. Al Qaeda and bin Laden were welcomed guests there and all but one of the 9/11 terrorists were trained there. Attacking the US, obliged us as a member of NATO to respond and as in the nature of our alliance with the US, we stepped up and kicked ass.
Harper changed the game plan that had been set out by the Liberals, who it should be pointed out didn't fall in behind Bushco when it wanted to change control of Iraq oil, even through all the lies that Bushco invented about weapons of Mass Destruction that are now of course, seen for the lies they were. Harper wanted to jump on Iraq like a hump happy lap dog.
Having his hands tied by those "pests" in parliament stopped him from entering that mess, and instead, he found a way to turn Afghanistan into the same mess since we were already involved in that war, by following Bushco's request to step things up a notch when we should have been preparing an exit strategy. Just one more thing bungled by the Harper Regime.
The Liberals didn't send the Canadian Military into Kandahar, Nato command chose that for us and we stepped up as is the norm for Canadian troops. You don't get a reputation like ours by taking on only the easy jobs. One of the reasons why all Canadians should be proud of and support the troops, detached from any political wrangling and bull.
Really? Why are you confused?
One of your countrymen stated the it was the US that wanted to be the World Police and not Cananda. I told him to check Canada's Troop Deployments around the world and he would be surprised.
Peace Maker... Now that is funny.
What are you going to teach?
Believe me, the politics of Canada and what Canada was willing to send into the fight was why they got sent into Kandahar.
Many other NATO nations informed the NATO command that they would only be interested in the "support" role.
The fact is, the conservatives have deliberately withheld documents from the opposition about the price tags for its law-and-order agenda, corporate tax cuts and the plan to buy stealth combat jets. Bev Oda committed an act of fraud.
This isn't about whether Canada needs more prisons, more corporate tax cuts or advanced weapon systems. This is about the ability of the government to function, make informed decisions and government oversight.
The opposition must be able to monitor the activities of the government. If we allow the current government to operate without oversight, we are setting a dangerous precedent. A government which operates in secret is a threat to the rights and freedoms of all Canadians.
Those of you who support the current government regardless of their illegal activities aren't thinking long term. If you support what the conservatives have done, then sooner or later, another party will take power and they will also be able to operate in secret. Would you support that too, or do you just support the conservatives operating in secret? If you allow this for the conservatives, then you effectively support all governments in the future operating in secret.
Also, some of you think since no money was stolen no harm done. You don't know that the conservatives aren't lining their pockets. No one does except the conservatives. That's the point. If the conservatives can spend money and not show how they are spending it, then certainly that will lead to abuse.
This isn't about whether Canada needs more prisons, more corporate tax cuts or advanced weapon systems. This is about the ability of the government to function, make informed decisions and government oversight.
The opposition must be able to monitor the activities of the government. If we allow the current government to operate without oversight, we are setting a dangerous precedent. A government which operates in secret is a threat to the rights and freedoms of all Canadians.
Those of you who support the current government regardless of their illegal activities aren't thinking long term. If you support what the conservatives have done, then sooner or later, another party will take power and they will also be able to operate in secret. Would you support that too, or do you just support the conservatives operating in secret? If you allow this for the conservatives, then you effectively support all governments in the future operating in secret.
Also, some of you think since no money was stolen no harm done. You don't know that the conservatives aren't lining their pockets. No one does except the conservatives. That's the point. If the conservatives can spend money and not show how they are spending it, then certainly that will lead to abuse.
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