Fox News and the poisoning of American political debate

Cliffy

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There are 308 million Americans, not 330 million. There are at least 35 million Canadians, not 33 million.
Then there at least 343 million individuals representing 343 million different views on the spectrum of opinions on every subject. That is a lot of gray areas to contemplate. Polarizing the debate is to bring it to a stand still. Polarization will destroy the US more than anything else. Time for the leftards and rightards to step aside and let intelligent people figure out the solutions.
 

Glenfilthie

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I suppose I qualify as a rightard and from where I sit, Cliffy, it is cud chewing idiots in the political centre that are responsible for the current problems in the USA, not talk show hosts or columnists. The current economic chit storm has been brewing for decades - and political renegades and extremists (like Yours Truly) have been screaming bloody murder about it for about as long. The political centrists ignored us and quietly chewed their cud.

In the last elections we howled about the black idiot vying for the presidency - where his idea of 'action' was hopey-changiness and rhetorical speeches. Despite us, he got elected on the colour of his skin and not the content of his character. Today entire states are going broke. Detroit looks like a post apocolyptic wasteland where people crap on the sidewalks...and politically centrist cattle wonder if they can give the thugs in the teachers unions the perks and bennies they are demanding while tax payers wonder if they will be able to pay the bills or have a job next week.

America is in deep deep chit - and the calm, oblivious poltical centrists don't see any problems. Nor will they unless they themselves are headed for the butcher's block.

There is nothing radical or extreme about asking the idiot in the Whitehouse how he is going to pay for Obongocare. There is nothing wrong in wondering about the ethics of spending your grandchildren into pennury to pay for your excesses today. The leftist/centrist media isn't asking these questions - all they know is that they have a tingle running up their leg because they finally got a black man for a president.

So while you idiots chewed your cud or stuck your heads in the sand - your economies have slowly tanked for the reasonS us 'radicals' said they would. The f-knuckles at Newsweek proudly proclaimed that in America "We Are All Socialists Now". I would agree, and furthermore, America is now living the socialist dream: high taxes, high unemployment, and poverty. It looks good on 'em too.

If you oh-so-intelligent 'centrists' have any bright ideas on how to deal with this problem....now might be a good time to put them out there...
 

BaalsTears

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...Polarizing the debate is to bring it to a stand still. Polarization will destroy the US more than anything else. Time for the leftards and rightards to step aside and let intelligent people figure out the solutions.

Polarization has produced paralysis. Economic and financial collapse will break the paralysis. One side will win, and the ideology of the other side will be discredited. Only victory for one side will permit the search for solutions to begin. That is the way the historical process works out.

Non-Americans must watch powerlessly from the sidelines while the forces of history play out in America. The economic and financial crisis are like the force of gravity. The status quo can't resist the laws of gravity.
 

BaalsTears

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I suppose I qualify as a rightard and from where I sit, Cliffy, it is cud chewing idiots in the political centre that are responsible for the current problems in the USA, not talk show hosts or columnists. The current economic chit storm has been brewing for decades - and political renegades and extremists (like Yours Truly) have been screaming bloody murder about it for about as long. The political centrists ignored us and quietly chewed their cud.

In the last elections we howled about the black idiot vying for the presidency - where his idea of 'action' was hopey-changiness and rhetorical speeches. Despite us, he got elected on the colour of his skin and not the content of his character. Today entire states are going broke. Detroit looks like a post apocolyptic wasteland where people crap on the sidewalks...and politically centrist cattle wonder if they can give the thugs in the teachers unions the perks and bennies they are demanding while tax payers wonder if they will be able to pay the bills or have a job next week.

America is in deep deep chit - and the calm, oblivious poltical centrists don't see any problems. Nor will they unless they themselves are headed for the butcher's block.

There is nothing radical or extreme about asking the idiot in the Whitehouse how he is going to pay for Obongocare. There is nothing wrong in wondering about the ethics of spending your grandchildren into pennury to pay for your excesses today. The leftist/centrist media isn't asking these questions - all they know is that they have a tingle running up their leg because they finally got a black man for a president.

So while you idiots chewed your cud or stuck your heads in the sand - your economies have slowly tanked for the reasonS us 'radicals' said they would. The f-knuckles at Newsweek proudly proclaimed that in America "We Are All Socialists Now". I would agree, and furthermore, America is now living the socialist dream: high taxes, high unemployment, and poverty. It looks good on 'em too.

If you oh-so-intelligent 'centrists' have any bright ideas on how to deal with this problem....now might be a good time to put them out there...

I agree with your post except for one thing. Obama isn't black. He's the living breathing embodiment of American leftism. Remember the great black American conservatives who serve as our role models, i. e., Thomas Sowell and Herman Cain.
 

ironsides

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Then there at least 343 million individuals representing 343 million different views on the spectrum of opinions on every subject. That is a lot of gray areas to contemplate. Polarizing the debate is to bring it to a stand still. Polarization will destroy the US more than anything else. Time for the leftards and rightards to step aside and let intelligent people figure out the solutions.

Come on down Cliffy. :) Always room for one more.
 

gopher

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Fox paper = TITS on page three.

People with one political view are amusing. Wouldn't you agree Gopher?

Right wingers love to pretend that it is lefties who love porn and live degenerate lives. But the facts show right wingers are more inclined to be druggies, alkies, porno freaks, adulterers, child molesters, and worse.
 

talloola

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I suppose I qualify as a rightard and from where I sit, Cliffy, it is cud chewing idiots in the political centre that are responsible for the current problems in the USA, not talk show hosts or columnists. The current economic chit storm has been brewing for decades - and political renegades and extremists (like Yours Truly) have been screaming bloody murder about it for about as long. The political centrists ignored us and quietly chewed their cud.

In the last elections we howled about the black idiot vying for the presidency - where his idea of 'action' was hopey-changiness and rhetorical speeches. Despite us, he got elected on the colour of his skin and not the content of his character. Today entire states are going broke. Detroit looks like a post apocolyptic wasteland where people crap on the sidewalks...and politically centrist cattle wonder if they can give the thugs in the teachers unions the perks and bennies they are demanding while tax payers wonder if they will be able to pay the bills or have a job next week.

America is in deep deep chit - and the calm, oblivious polticalT centrists don't see any problems. Nor will they unless they themselves are headed for the butcher's block.
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the u.s. was going down the toilet well 'before' obama was elected president, i'm sure bushee couldn't
get out of that white house fast enough, so he could leave obama his 'mess' that he made.
 

Cliffy

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Come on down Cliffy. :) Always room for one more.
You wouldn't want me if you knew what is brewing in my beanie. I'm an anarchist. The US is in the toilet not for political reasons, but because your puppet masters want it that way. Bush signed on the dotted line and Obama had no choice but to bail out the crooks who engineered your downfall. The enemy is not your politicians. They are only doing the job those in control pay them to do - take your flack. Who profited from this crash? Who made out like bandits for the mess you are in? Follow the money! Rightards and Leftards are just to reactionary to see past their steamed up glasses. They are too emotional to be rational and logical. You are fighting the wrong enemies just the way they planned it.
 

Cannuck

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I didn't miss it. It doesn't contradict my position that Faux is not watched my the majority. In fact, on any given night there are fewer than 10 million watching it. Two percent of the population masturbating to an O'reilly rant....they're fringe dwellers.

One thing I've notice on web forums, those that are big on cable news (be it Faux or MSNBC) are, generally speaking, the least informed and by far the worst debaters.

Tell me how insulting me by calling me a fringe dweller has advanced our debate?

It's not an insult, it is a fact. If you find it insulting, move away from the fringe.
 

Glenfilthie

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That's how it is, isn't it? When you tell a leftist retard how it is and why it is, well...well!!! Stop being so poisonous and vile...!!!!

But when they call you a fringe dwelling idiot...that is civil discourse! HAR HAR HAR!!!

Double standards are the hallmarks of idiots and leftists. Some would say there is a difference between the two, but if there is I would say it is merely conversational.
 

Cliffy

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That's how it is, isn't it? When you tell a leftist retard how it is and why it is, well...well!!! Stop being so poisonous and vile...!!!!

But when they call you a fringe dwelling idiot...that is civil discourse! HAR HAR HAR!!!

Double standards are the hallmarks of idiots and leftists. Some would say there is a difference between the two, but if there is I would say it is merely conversational.
And ranting lunacy is a hallmark of the right wing fringe dwellers. Anybody who takes this leftard/rightard stuff seriously is a raving fruit loop.
 

ironsides

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Fox paper = TITS on page three.

People with one political view are amusing. Wouldn't you agree Gopher?

Right wingers love to pretend that it is lefties who love porn and live degenerate lives. But the facts show right wingers are more inclined to be druggies, alkies, porno freaks, adulterers, child molesters, and worse.

Its settled, both sides are perverts and do drugs, what does that prove. We still elected them.
 

Cliffy

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Its settled, both sides are perverts and do drugs, what does that prove. We still elected them.
You can only elect those who are presented to you to vote for. Do you personally have an voice in who you get to vote for? No. Those in control make that decision for you and you call that democracy.:roll:
 

TenPenny

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You can only elect those who are presented to you to vote for. Do you personally have an voice in who you get to vote for? No. Those in control make that decision for you and you call that democracy.:roll:

You see, no matter what, there's always a way to blame somebody else.

No one is ever responsible for anything.
 

ironsides

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You can only elect those who are presented to you to vote for. Do you personally have an voice in who you get to vote for? No. Those in control make that decision for you and you call that democracy.:roll:
Nope we do not.

That's how it is, isn't it? When you tell a leftist retard how it is and why it is, well...well!!! Stop being so poisonous and vile...!!!!

But when they call you a fringe dwelling idiot...that is civil discourse! HAR HAR HAR!!!

Double standards are the hallmarks of idiots and leftists. Some would say there is a difference between the two, but if there is I would say it is merely conversational.

There is a major difference between a idiot and a leftists, the leftist has a choice. Let us not insult the mentally challenged anymore by comparing them to a leftist, they are far above them on the social ladder. :)
 

earth_as_one

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Fox News is to news, as professional wrestling is to Olympic wrestling. I've noticed that people who like Fox News, also like professional wrestling, and tend to take both seriously...
 

Tonington

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Double standards are the hallmarks of idiots and leftists. Some would say there is a difference between the two, but if there is I would say it is merely conversational.

I guess you must ignore the family values conservative politicians caught in affairs with congressional pages, who have sex with men in airport bathrooms, who leave the country to have affairs.

Closet leftists? You're a funny old crank! :lol: Generally, wisdom comes with age. Do you enjoy being exceptional?