Fox News and the poisoning of American political debate

BaalsTears

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O please. Next you'll be showing me blurry pictures that prove the existance of bigfoot. :)

Bigfoot does exist. He posts on several forums. I'm trying to persuade him to join CC.:)

I don't view enough of their content to have much of an opinion. I know they have some commentators who are pretty extreme, much like Fox News.

No evidence has been given to support the assertion that they were falsifying data. I've read the commissions that investigated the CRU scientists, I've read the papers in question myself, and there is no evidence that scientists were fudging the data to get the answers they wanted. In fact, their results are consistent with other prominent research groups, while using different data sets, and different methodology. That, in scientific fields, is called robust. The result is not dependent on a single group, a single data set, or a single method of analysis.

If you want to discuss this further, I suggest one of the many threads on the topic.

Michael Mann and the guy from East Anglia gave their enemies the figurative ammunition they needed to discredit Global Warming. That is their failing. That's the whole point. Global Warming is now discredited in America, China and India. And Wikileaks did it by releasing the emails. Objective truth doesn't matter in this case. Perception rules the roost.
 

Cannuck

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...More Canadians watch FOX than the CBC. The reason for that should be obvious - people are sick and tired of the liberal propaganda coming from the other networks....

Actually, the reason for that is because young people don't watch TV news in any great numbers and old people tend to be crotchety old conservatives. Faux news attracts those kinds of people. Fortunately for all of us, it is a dying demographic and Faux will eventually be put out of our misery.
 

Tonington

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Michael Mann and the guy from East Anglia gave their enemies the figurative ammunition they needed to discredit Global Warming.

No they didn't. Whomever stole the emails did, by presenting information in a vacuum, without context. Most people who use email probably have conversations stored in their email archives which could be distorted.

That's all I save to say now, unless, as I said earlier you want to move it to an appropriate thread, unless you have comments on how Fox News presented these emails. No context, no objectivity.
 

Cannuck

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....I was watching an ostensibly straight news broadcast. It was in the late morning with some illiterate eye candy stumbling over the teleprompter. It was a few months ago and I can't remember what she was reporting on, but I think she was like "is the Democratic party in league with Al Qaeda?" I swear it was something like that.

You say that like it is a bad thing. Personally, I'd like more illiterate eye candy. It would be a whole lot better than Beck, Mansbridge or Blitzer.

It's human nature to find bias and denigrate any news source they do not agree with.

No it's not. It's simply an emotional response instead of an analytical one.
 

Tonington

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I await Sun TV with bated breath.
This is quite the coincidence...the CRTC has proposed to remove the provisions which make false or misleading news illegal, along with profane language and some other stuff.
CRTC receives thousands of comments on 'false and misleading news' amendment | The Wire Report
Broadcasting Notice of Consultation CRTC 2011-14

So, I guess if our Prime Minister is fine with his Ministers lying to the public, he won't expect much more from our media...
 

Corduroy

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hmmmm...I disagree with much........

Even the part about Anderson Cooper?

The CBC has been a little better, new masters you know, but the Ministry of Truth can still let the lefty propaganda dog run wild on occasion.....I will never forgive them for the vicious campaign they led against the Reform Party........veiled as news.
Whenever you hear reports from these embattled Arab dictatorships or some other such dictatorship (like you North Korea or Burma) you'll sometimes here "state media is reporting..." and you know that whatever follows is complete bull****. Just once I'd like to be watching a foreign report on a Canadian election and have them say "State media has confirmed a landslide victory for..."


You say that like it is a bad thing. Personally, I'd like more illiterate eye candy. It would be a whole lot better than Beck, Mansbridge or Blitzer.

Anderson Cooper is literate eye candy.
 

ironsides

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IMHO, eh1eh, PBS should not be included in your blanket statement. I find the reporting - news reporting, not necessarily all their docs - to be quite fair and balanced.

Of course you would. PBS best paid news people who copy and change around major networks to their liking.
 

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Whenever you hear reports from these embattled Arab dictatorships or some other such dictatorship (like you North Korea or Burma) you'll sometimes here "state media is reporting..." and you know that whatever follows is complete bull****.


Which is why they say that, of course.
 

Cannuck

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Fox News and MSNBC represents parallel universes roughly replicating the parallel universes into which America has been divided. Whether it is good or bad no longer matters. It is.

You are in error. The US is not divided. It's just that the fringe element has been given a voice so it appears that way. Most Americans don't watch these channels and most are middle of the road. Middle of the road doesn't garner much attention though.
 

BaalsTears

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...Most Americans don't watch these channels and most are middle of the road...

This is where I get to ask you to prove that most Americans don't watch Fox News or MSNBC? You've made a declarative statement without condition or equivocation.

Someone has to balance out Rachael Maddcow:lol:

Haha.:) Actually, she's not as bad as Chris Matthews who was once a respected analyst. Now he is hydophobic.
 

Cannuck

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This is where I get to ask you to prove that most Americans don't watch Fox News or MSNBC? You've made a declarative statement without condition or equivocation.

I am absolutely stunned that anybody would ask me to prove that statement. It is like I said the sky is blue and you asked me to prove it. Usually I don't bother to do lazy people's research for them but you are relatively new here so I'll make the odd exception. It took all of 20 seconds to find this. I assume I could find mountains of "proof" were I so inclined to spoon feed you.

Cable TV: Audience

As you can see by the graph, 2004 cable news viewership spiked to a whopping 7 million viewers. Now, before you ask, I'm not interested in "proving" that 7 million Americans isn't a majority. You'll have to do your own research on that one.