Canadian 9/11 Petition for Parliament

CDNBear

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You've offered explainations of why they fell not how they fell and especially how they fell without toppling.
Watch your own video. Stop looking at the building like it's to scale on the screen. It's actually monstrous, compared to that little building you're watching fall.

Now watch the sides of the building fall away, as force is deflected outward. Those small chucks on the screen, are actually several hundreds of tons a piece.

NIST says no pancaking occured so how did it not topple and what pulverized 425,000 cubic yards of concrete?
Newton's other two laws. I know it's hard for you to grasp the existence of things that don't support your theory, but they actually do exist.

A Tonka truck?
If you don't like insults, don't beg for them.

Using physics properly helps to settle the debate.
Absolutely correct. So you'll be shelving your petition now?
 

DaSleeper

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Using physics properly helps to settle the debate.

Support is definitely growing for the new petition:
Toronto Truth Seekers Gets Behind the Petition | Canadian 9/11 Petition

This is good....;-)

And now the government will know where all the crackpots are in Canada...
 

Cannuck

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Ahh, and human engineers have a perfect track record, right? The Titanic was supposed to be unsinkable. That must have been a conspiracy too according to the Beaver school of common sense.

The Joos sunk the Titanic. It hit an iceberg. Iceberg, Steinberg, Wahlberg.....coincidence??
 

darkbeaver

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What Happened On 9-11 (for Kids)
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The September 11th Attack on America

On September 11, 2001, there was an attack on America.
There are some men that decided that they didn’t like what America stands for: freedom, liberty, and the rights of men and women of all races, backgrounds, and beliefs. So on the morning of September 11, 2001, they hijacked four planes and attacked America in a terrible way.
Two of the airplanes were crashed into the World Trade Center in New York City. The third plane was crashed into the Pentagon in Washington, D.C. The last plane was going to crash into another building in Washington, D.C., but the passengers stopped the hijackers, and the plane crashed into a field instead.
Thousands of people lost their lives through these attacks. Hundreds of people were on the planes. Thousands died in the buildings that were hit by those planes.
The men that arranged this terrible attack want Americans to feel afraid and disorganized. They want to make people who live in this country do what they say by threatening us. Basically they’re big bullies.
The people of the United States are a strong group of people. Keep faith in who you are and what our country stands for and we will become even stronger than before.
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petros

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I see why you didn't want to explain this...you're invoking voodoo. Crackpot.

According to Newton's third law, the force exerted on the Manhatten bedrock would be equal to the force of the falling building.

F=ma

Let's see your math's now. How is the F different if explosives are used to cut support columns versus the F if the structures fail due to uneven loading and thermal stresses from fire.
Bingo. So when the top mass hit the bottom mass (3rd law) which according to all principles of engineering, the structural columns of the bottom mass which are tied into the bedrock with pilings which allegedly wasn't enough to trigger the first P wave but mere debris did?

NIST used pieces of build that hit the ground which triggered the seismo as part of their time-line of the collapse.
6. How could the WTC towers collapse in only 11 seconds (WTC 1) and 9 seconds (WTC 2)—speeds that approximate that of a ball dropped from similar height in a vacuum (with no air resistance)?

NIST estimated the elapsed times for the first exterior panels to strike the ground after the collapse initiated in each of the towers to be approximately 11 seconds for WTC 1 and approximately 9 seconds for WTC 2. These elapsed times were based on: (1) precise timing of the initiation of collapse from video evidence, and (2) ground motion (seismic) signals recorded at Palisades, N.Y., that also were precisely time-calibrated for wave transmission times from lower Manhattan (see NCSTAR 1-5A).
As documented in Section 6.14.4 of NIST NCSTAR 1, these collapse times show that:
“… the structure below the level of collapse initiation offered minimal resistance to the falling building mass at and above the impact zone. The potential energy released by the downward movement of the large building mass far exceeded the capacity of the intact structure below to absorb that energy through energy of deformation.

http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm
No slap means no initial resistance? Still why no slap when the upper mass hit 70 odd floors undamaged still as solid as ever tower?
 
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Tonington

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Bingo. So when the top mass hit the bottom mass (3rd law) which according to all principles of engineering, the structural columns of the bottom mass which are tied into the bedrock with pilings which allegedly wasn't enough to trigger the first P wave but mere debris did?

Avoiding the question I see. The seismograms recorded multiple waves, with larger magnitudes as the collapse progressed. That's exactly what they should have seen. A collapsing building is entirely different than what happens when plates slip or strike.

Look at the symmetry in this photo :roll: