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Not really. It was a question ... remember that other thread?

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Not really. It was a question ... remember that other thread?

And this is a thread about a fast Chinese train which makes life allot easier in China .

And this is a thread about a fast Chinese train which makes life allot easier in China .

What makes China's trains so fast?



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The WuGuang line train

With China operating the world's fastest train, a dedicated 968-kilometer line linking Wuhan, in the heart of central China, to Guangzhou - a trip that can now be made in under three hours, the 'WuGuang' trains have blown away their nearest high-speed rail rivals will speeds of up to 400 kph (235mph)... but what made China take the lead in high-speed rail?
Beating the likes of France's TGV, which runs from Lorraine to Champagne and averages 272 kph and even Shaghai's own mag-lev trains capable of 251 kph, the WuGuang trains have turned heads around the world, and according to rail experts they have a lot to brag about.
"The high-speed rail technology implemented in China is not that much different from the TGV, Germany's ICE, and the Shinkansen," Rongfang Liu, a rail expert at the New Jersey Institute of Technology in Newark said to Technology Review. However, there is a difference between the WuGuang line and other high-speed trains; whereas most high-speed trains populate older tracks, the WuGuang line was designed for high-speed trains.
Not just that, but the concrete bed underneath the track has been designed to safely rocket passengers around or through obstacles that others trains would be forced to slow down for.
High-speed China
The success of the WuGuang line has meant that the country will see more high-speed lines in coming years. China's Ministry of Railways have already said stated that it has a $293 billion plan for 16,000 kilometers of dedicated high-speed rail lines connecting all of China's major cities by 2020.
WuGuang, meanwhile, is expected to expand northward to Beijing and South to Hong Kong by 2013. "Over the next five years there'll be more high-speed rail added in China than the rest of the world combined," says Keith Dierkx, director of IBM's Beijing-based Global Rail Innovation Center.
The Chinese government has embraced high-speed lines rather than enhance the country's reliance on imported oil for automobiles and airplanes.
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[lone wolf]

And this is a thread about a fast Chinese train which makes life allot easier in China .

This part of it may be about a train. Mostly, it's a receptacle for China's propaganda.

Is that one of the sets Bombardier sold them?

 

[china]

Is that one of the sets Bombardier sold them?

No idea who made the train -China can afford whatever train it needs . The point is that China is building the "fast train system" which is used to benefit the people and the country itself ;it is not a cheap talk ; it's being done -it ain't no propaganda -it's happening .

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The Wuhan-Guangzhou railway

Not a country to do things by halves, China has unveiled the world's fastest train, which also happens to run on the longest track on Earth.
The Wuhan-Guangzhou railway is normally a ten and a half hour journey along the 1,000km line, however the new high-speed train can do the journey in a mere three hours, travelling at speeds of close to 350km/h (over 217 mph).
Not just capable of extreme speeds, the train is also state-of-the-art in terms of comfort offering an incredibly smooth ride. The successful trial of the train has made tickets a much sought-after commodity
The railway has taken four years to build and nearly $16 billion worth of investment. It will open to the public later in the month (20 December), and has already been hailed as a fantastic deal for consumers. In response, airlines have begun to slash their prices in order to not lose business to the railway. Meanwhile, officials are hoping the train will help ease the holiday travel rush at airports and on roadways.
If the Wuhan-Guangzhou railway is a bonafide success, the Chinese government are planning to build another 42 similar high-speed lines over the next three years, covering 13,000km in the country. It would be a significant part of cutting CO2 emissions in the country, which is already suffering from an ever-growing population and a soaring economy.

 

[lone wolf]

No idea who made the train -China can afford whatever train it needs . The point is that China is building the "fast train system" which is used to benefit the people and the country itself ;it is not a cheap talk ; it's being done -it ain't no propaganda -it's happening .

I know it's happening and I also know Bombardier won a contract recently on Chinese high-speed trainsets. Was it so difficult to admit you don't know who the manufacturer is? I found my answer a couple of hours ago.

CRH380A is of Chinese manufacture, 140 of which are being erected by CSR Sifang Factory, 180 by CNR Tangshan Factory and 80 by BST.

I'd love to see high-speed rail here, but the fact remains that Canada doesn't have the population to make it viable - except along the Windsor-Montreal corridor.

 

[china]

Bloggers help police capture murderers
08:21, December 03, 2010

Micro-bloggers have helped police in Xiamen, East China's Fujian province, catch a couple who have confessed to murdering their 3-year-old daughter and dumping her body in the sea, local police said on Wednesday.

The case is the first publicly reported instance of a murder being solved with the help of Chinese micro-bloggers.

The girl's parents confessed to beating their daughter to death and then dumping the body in the sea off Xiamen, said Lu Zhicheng, spokesman for the public security bureau of Xiamen.

The mother, surnamed Zhao, confessed that she hit the girl with her fist and a coat hanger, and that similar punishment had continued for some time because the girl did not like eating her meals.

According to the police, Zhao and her husband left their hometown in East China's Jiangxi province to live and work in Xiamen. When the girl died, the parents were scared and put the body into a bag and threw it into the sea at midnight on Nov 13. After hearing that the police were trying to capture them, they fled back to Jiangxi.

"The miserable sight of the child infuriated everyone in the police bureau, so we made up our minds to find the murderer by every means," said Ma Cuilin, an officer at the Xiamen police bureau.

However, no progress was made in the first week, so the police had the idea of calling for clues on the official micro blog of Xiamen police - t.sina.com/xmpolice.

At 11 pm on Nov 23, Ma posted some photos of the girl and an entry saying that the body of an unidentified girl in shabby clothes and a woven bag had been found, and that anyone offering valuable clues would be paid 5,000 yuan ($751).

Within three days, the entries and photos had been transmitted to about 10,000 micro-bloggers and had drawn more than 2,000 comments and 100 clues.

Some netizens suggested that police search for clues from the maker of the woven bag and from the clothes the girl had been wearing.

"Several netizens said the clothes were similar to the school uniform at two kindergartens in Xiamen. We checked the kindergartens but found the uniform was a different color to the girl's," said Zeng Lei, an officer with the Xiamen police who was in charge of updating the case information on the micro blog.

On Monday afternoon, one netizen helped police to identify the girl and track down her parents in the neighboring Jiangxi province. The police went to Jinxi county in Jiangxi and caught the suspects at their old home late on Monday night.

"This is the first time Xiamen police have solved a case with the help of micro blogs," said Lu Zhicheng, deputy head of the press department of the Xiamen police.

"We had not expected so many responses from netizens," Lu said, "Apparently micro-blogging has built an excellent platform for us to communicate with people."

He said the police may continue to use micro blogs to solicit clues, but it will not become a common method for police to investigate crimes.

The Xiamen police started its official micro blog on Oct 20, and had 25,542 fans by 5 pm on Thursday. Other security bureaus in places such as Beijing, Zhanjiang city in Guangdong province and Kunming city in Yunnan province have also adopted similar practices.

The 3-year-old girl's tragic story is not the only such case in the country.

In June, a Shaanxi father named Liu Shikui killed his 9-year-old son because the boy did not finish a school assignment, according to local police.

In April in Guangdong province, a father also beat his 9-year-old girl to death because she refused to attend after-school classes.

Jiang Yue, a law professor with Xiamen University, said people guilty of such crimes may be sentenced to death, life imprisonment, or to three to 10 years in jail, depending on the circumstances of the crime.

Kirsten Di Martino, chief of child protection of the China office of the United Nations Children's Fund, said at a meeting on Wednesday that China's rapid social and economic development in the past 30 years has had profound effects on families.

For example, the large number of rural children left behind by their parents who go to the cities to be migrant workers lack proper family care and are more likely to suffer domestic violence, she said.
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lone wolf

Was it so difficult to admit you don't know who the manufacturer is?

Not difficult at all , lone wolf .....

I found my answer a couple of hours ago[/QUOTE
....well I, I knew it all along.

 

[earth_as_one]

Shaghai's own mag-lev trains capable of 251 kph...

I took the Shanghai Maglev from the airport this May. I have picture which indicates a speed of 431 km/h.

 

[Trotz]

I know it's happening and I also know Bombardier won a contract recently on Chinese high-speed trainsets. Was it so difficult to admit you don't know who the manufacturer is? I found my answer a couple of hours ago.

CRH380A is of Chinese manufacture, 140 of which are being erected by CSR Sifang Factory, 180 by CNR Tangshan Factory and 80 by BST.

I'd love to see high-speed rail here, but the fact remains that Canada doesn't have the population to make it viable - except along the Windsor-Montreal corridor.

Isn't that what they said about the CPR? Who in their god damn mind would build a railway to British Columbia?! It's just a bunch of Indians and miners living there! A railway through Alberta and Saskatchewan? So the twelve Ukrainians living there don't get sore feet? GET OUT OF HERE YE IMBECILE!


It took the formation of Canada and government intervention to build our rail network and we need that intervention again. If we made it a national issue, we could easily have a 100 gauge rail network, with nuclear powered trains running at 400-500 KPH. The ultimate green transportation and enough space on board to have restaurants, dormitory and family bedrooms, recreational facilities, not be forced to sit in a chair, et al.

As long as you prevent the monopolization of routes, have a limitation of routes (once or twice a day) and have a large carrying capacity (as in 10,000 or more) you would find it would be economical for the passenger.
The reason you have so many flights today is simply because we can't build big enough aircraft to house everyone who wants to go to that particular destination..

 

[petros]

The reason you have so many flights today is simply because we can't build big enough aircraft to house everyone.

I always thought they had so many flights was to provide a time slot suitable for the traveller's needs or we'd need 10X the amount of hotels for people waiting to "catch THE plane".

Ever hit a moose at 400-500km/h?

 

[Trotz]

I always thought they had so many flights was to provide a time slot suitable for the traveller's needs or we'd need 10X the amount of hotels for people waiting to "catch THE plane".

No one is forced to take a flight at any particular hour unless it is to get onto a connecting flight but that is a mute point. More often or not, if you are taking a morning flight, it's because you couldn't get on the ideal hours or couldn't afford the price.

Ever hit a moose at 400-500km/h?

No, but I've been on trains which have hit cows and the thing doesn't budge. A 100 Gauge nuclear-powered training running at 500 KPH would turn anything in its path to dust.

 

[lone wolf]

Isn't that what they said about the CPR? Who in their god damn mind would build a railway to British Columbia?! It's just a bunch of Indians and miners living there! A railway through Alberta and Saskatchewan? So the twelve Ukrainians living there don't get sore feet? GET OUT OF HERE YE IMBECILE!


It took the formation of Canada and government intervention to build our rail network and we need that intervention again. If we made it a national issue, we could easily have a 100 gauge rail network, with nuclear powered trains running at 400-500 KPH. The ultimate green transportation and enough space on board to have restaurants, dormitory and family bedrooms, recreational facilities, not be forced to sit in a chair, et al.

As long as you prevent the monopolization of routes, have a limitation of routes (once or twice a day) and have a large carrying capacity (as in 10,000 or more) you would find it would be economical for the passenger.
The reason you have so many flights today is simply because we can't build big enough aircraft to house everyone who wants to go to that particular destination..

Neat! Can I come play with your trainset?

 

[china]

Not a noble way of involving China

By Zhang Dongqi (China Daily)
Updated: 2010-12-08 08:03
horbjorn Jagland, chairman of the Norwegian Nobel Committee, has written several articles for The New York Times and two Norwegian newspapers, Aftenposten and Dagbladet, about the awarding of the Nobel Peace Prize to Liu Xiaobo. And Geir Lundestad, secretary of the Norwegian Nobel Committee, delivered a speech on the subject at the University of Oxford last month.
Jagland and Lundestad called Liu a "fighter", but to most Chinese people Liu is simply a criminal plotting to overthrow the State. Sponsored by foreign countries, he declared that China should be colonized by the West for 300 years and split into 18 parts.
Jagland said that China had overreacted to Liu winning the prize. But why shouldn't China express its dissatisfaction?
If China's freedom to express its opinion is a "threat" as Jagland described China's response to the award, how should the Nobel Committee's behavior be interpreted?
"The basic values of Norway or Scandinavian countries determine whom the Nobel Peace Prize should be awarded to," Lundestad said after his speech at the University of Oxford.
I cannot help asking how the human rights values of the West, including Norway, came to serve as the international standard, since they haven't a leg to stand on. According to research by Richard Gowan and Franziska Bratner for the European Council on Foreign Relations, 127 of the 192 countries that comprise the General Assembly of the United Nations voted against the stance of the West on human rights issues this year.
Lundestad admitted in his speech that "most of the members of Noble Committee have never been to China", and "they don't know what most Chinese people are thinking". But he said the Nobel Committee "has some top experts, who have lived in China for many years and dedicated all their lives to studying China".
Do the views of these so-called experts reflect the views of the Chinese people? No, they do not.
Jagland and Lundestad have cited the 35th and 41st articles of Chinese Constitution, which are about citizens' freedom of speech, criticism and suggestions, to justify the award to Liu.
But the Chinese Constitution is not only made up of Article 35 and Article 41, but also Article 51, Article 52 and Article 54. These articles clearly stipulate that the exercise of individual freedom and rights may not infringe upon the interests of the State, of society and of the collective, or upon the lawful freedom and rights of other citizens.
It is the duty of citizens to safeguard the unity of the country and the unity of all its nationalities. It is also the duty of citizens to safeguard the security, honor and interests of the motherland.
A harmonious and stable society is the fundamental requirement to protect Chinese people's human rights.
I think it is necessary to remind the Nobel Committee's experts studying the Chinese Constitution that the People's Republic of China is a socialist state under the people's democratic leadership, led by the working class and based on the alliance of workers and farmers.
If the experts really care about the rights of workers, I suggest Jagland press the UN to pass a resolution criticizing all states in the West, including Norway, which haven't realized equal pay for equal work yet.
Putting one's own house in order is the basic prerequisite before commenting on the houses of others.
It is not strange that the Norwegian people, whose average GDP per capita amounts to nearly $80,000, express their sympathy with their counterparts' working and living conditions in China, as the average GDP per capita in China just climbed to $3,000.
The biggest human rights in China are the rights to live and to develop.
Chinese people have enough reason to be proud of the road they have chosen. China's development has not been dependent on wars, colonization or exploitation. Unlike the developed countries of the West, China's development is based on the right policies and hard labor.
The author is a Chinese student studying in the United Kingdom.

 

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China launches its own peace prize

China National News
Wednesday 8th December, 2010
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China will hand out its own, very first peace prize, one day before the imprisoned activist Liu Xiaobo is honoured in Oslo with the Nobel Prize. he first recipient of the prize will be Lien Chan, the former vice president of Taiwan.

The move by a group of Chinese professors to launch the Confucius Peace Prize comes amid continuing fury from Beijing at the decision by the Nobel committee to make Liu, 54, its first mainland Chinese laureate, The Telegraph reports.

According to the Confucius Prize web site, it is a greater honour than the Nobel, because China has more than one billion citizens, while Norway is tiny and its committee "could be inevitably biased and fallacious".

Beijing has continued to attack the Nobel Prize labelling the Nobel committee as "clowns" staging an anti-China farce.

At least 19 countries have pulled out of the Nobel ceremony after Chinese pressure and threats against them that there would be "consequences" if they took part. (ANI)

Comments on this story By Anonymous, 12-08-10, 02:22 PM China launches its own peace prize

No man-made system is perfect, but the nation that wants to learn from its own shortcomings as well as others nations' shortcomings wins. So, how about a peace prize that teaches rather than awards? By Hypocrisy, 12-08-10, 03:19 PM China launches its own peace prize

Norwegians are indeed clowns and the Swedish for arresting Julian Assange are hypocrites. The West is in a dilemma. The West rewards a Chinese prisoner because China is communist and disgrees with China on its political system. But arrest a courageous man who exposes Western double speak on trumped up charges of consensual sex because on after thought the girls thought condoms should have been used. The West supposedly champions honesty, justice and truth. But when these clashes with its own political system the courageous man will be imprisoned one way or the other. HYPOCRISY not much different from “bad” China By Questions?, 12-08-10, 05:35 PM Open Up the Competition

Competiton is good. Let hope there will be more peace prize competitions for individuals, organizations, and countries. Spreading good wills and peace around the world fits in with Confucius teachings. By fish, 12-08-10, 05:40 PM China' Peace Prize has many, many more winners

China’s Peace Prize is more significant not because of its size, but because the Confucius way of life is woven deep into the fabric of the 1.2 billion people in China, and in most of Asia creating stabilities especially within families, and family units are vital ingredients of a successful economy. When the spirit of peace & harmony are practiced by a majority of the population of a Confucius Peace Prize presenting country as a day-to-day matter instead of practiced by one individual winner of the Nobel, and Chinaâ��s responsible and non-aggressive track records are proven in history since China had not maliciously invaded other countries over its 5,000 years of history, China peace prize, backed by its solid track record, carries with it deep & far reaching meaning, more so than the achievement awards given out by Nobel to one successful individual. When China is giving this award out, it is inadvertently awarding it to the many who live in the spirit of Confucianism.

 

[china]

[SIZE=+1]New Chinese restaurant has robots as waitresses![/SIZE]

Friday 10th December, 2010
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A new restaurant has opened in Shandong province of China, and has robots as waitresses.

The Dalu Rebot Restaurant, in Jinan, has six robot waitresses and can cater for up to 100 diners.

The website Orange reported that the 21 tables in the restaurant are set in circles and the robots follow a fixed route to serve diners in rotation.

After serving, the robots return to the kitchen to refill their cart for the next round. Restaurant spokeswoman Wang Xianwei said that all of the waiting on tables was done by robots.

However, humans in the kitchen prepare the food, mainly the Chinese version of fondue and people are also employed to welcome customers and explain to them how the restaurant worked.

The Shandong Dalu Science and Technology Company developed the restaurant, which plans to further develop the concept. (ANI)

 

[Cliffy]

Re: China launches its own peace prize

"and China�s responsible and non-aggressive track records are proven in history since China had not maliciously invaded other countries over its 5,000 years of history,"
must have been written by a Chinese government PR person. Unadulterated BS. Tibet being the most glaring of omissions.

 

[earth_as_one]

Re: China launches its own peace prize

The last two Nobel peace prize recipients seem politically motivated. Obama got one just for not being George Bush.

Liu Xiaobo is a potential candidate, due to his efforts to non-violently reform China's political system. But he never accomplished that objective, nor his going to prison prevent a war or major upheaval. My problem with picking Xiaobo is that other people and organizations more deserving of the Nobel Peace Prize exist.

Liu Xiaobo choice was politically motivated. It would be like the Chinese awarding the Confucius Peace Prize to a jailed communist dissident.

"and China�s responsible and non-aggressive track records are proven in history since China had not maliciously invaded other countries over its 5,000 years of history,"
must have been written by a Chinese government PR person. Unadulterated BS. Tibet being the most glaring of omissions.

Cliffy, most Chinese people believe that Tibet is part of China and was a break away province, just like Taiwan is now. I disagree with that viewpoint, but I think Tibetans are better off (economic, health, security...) under Chinese control than being run by a Buddhist monks. But I also support the Tibetans right to choose. I disagree with China trying to assimilate Tibetans. Tibetan culture is unique and distinct and should be preserved.

 

[Cliffy]

[SIZE=+1]New Chinese restaurant has robots as waitresses![/SIZE]

Friday 10th December, 2010
(ANI)

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A new restaurant has opened in Shandong province of China, and has robots as waitresses.

The Dalu Rebot Restaurant, in Jinan, has six robot waitresses and can cater for up to 100 diners.

The website Orange reported that the 21 tables in the restaurant are set in circles and the robots follow a fixed route to serve diners in rotation.

After serving, the robots return to the kitchen to refill their cart for the next round. Restaurant spokeswoman Wang Xianwei said that all of the waiting on tables was done by robots.

However, humans in the kitchen prepare the food, mainly the Chinese version of fondue and people are also employed to welcome customers and explain to them how the restaurant worked.

The Shandong Dalu Science and Technology Company developed the restaurant, which plans to further develop the concept. (ANI)

Don't they have an unemployment problem in China? Robots seems counter productive (in any country).

 

[TenPenny]

Re: China launches its own peace prize

What's funny about China's peace prize is that the people nominated didn't know they were nominated, and the perso who won didn't know if he'd accept or not.

And it was merely a coincidence that it was timed to coincide with the Nobel prize. Of course.

 

[earth_as_one]

Re: China launches its own peace prize

What's funny about China's peace prize is that the people nominated didn't know they were nominated, and the perso who won didn't know if he'd accept or not.

And it was merely a coincidence that it was timed to coincide with the Nobel prize. Of course.

The Confucius Peace Prize is more of a statement than an award. We'll see if they award one next year.

 

[Avro]

Re: China launches its own peace prize

At the ceremony you'll get the prize then taken into another room and then shot in the back of the head for getting it.

 

[Unforgiven]

Re: China launches its own peace prize

Who is next Sargent slaughter followed by honourable leader?