Thank a Vet?

damngrumpy

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Some people on this board are right Jerryh has class, sometimes we agree and sometimes
we don't but at least he has class and a point for his position.
Why would we contribute to a sick planet, well the idea is to use our discussion skills in life to
make the world a better place where possible. We contribute to a world full of contradictions
because it is the only world there is at the moment. Have you gazed out in space lately? How
many other planets do you see teaming with life.
For your information I am not crazy about war either, over the last century we lost a hell of a lot
of relatives sometimes however, there is no choice when and where it is time to defend even the
concept of democracy. Below I would like to relate something on an old postcard sent to my late
mother many years ago. It came from her aunt, this is before I was born.
The front is a seashore scene of a little fishing village Whitehead Nova Scotia. On the back it is
written on Sept 23 1943 It is from Auntie. She lists four letters she got during the week including
one from my dad who was overseas. At one point she says Bob is missing, we all feel very bad
about this, we are hoping and praying he will turn up.
Well Bob did turn up, at least his dog tags did. Bob was dead. When you look at this, you
realize, these missing in action things are becoming common place with families who have to
wait and sometimes people waited until their time on earth ended without an answer.
I can understand, those who don't believe in war or killing, I firmly believe every possible alternative
should be found, but at some point, you can't allow the Nazis, fascists, and Taliban to simply
run rough sh awed over the earth. There is a time to say enough is enough.
 

Ariadne

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The idea seems to have a flaw in the initial premise that: "this is a sick world" because soldiers give their lives for their country.

That is flawed, so there's little point in debating whether we should contribute to "a sick planet". Clearly, the answer is no. The planet is only sick in the sense that resources and environment are exploited, but otherwise not.
 

Dexter Sinister

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Who the Hell is Laurence M. Vance and why should I care what he thinks? It staggers me that a man so obviously intelligent and articulate can suffer from such vast ignorance and incomprehension. He sleeps peacefully in his bed at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on his behalf. That's a paraphrase of a statement I've seen attributed variously to George Orwell, Winston Churchill, and Rudyard Kipling, probably erroneously in all three cases according the historical record, but it's a good thought.

Last year's news coverage of Remembrance Day comes to mind. Prince Charles and Camilla were in Canada at the time, and took part in ceremonies at the HQ of the Black Watch Regiment, one of our more storied military units, in Montreal. Anti-monarchist sentiment is pretty strong in Quebec, needless to say, though I'm cynical enough to think that if there were a French monarch who could visit Quebec people would turn out in cheering throngs, as they did for that old fool De Gaulle. There were demonstrations and egg throwing by assorted Quebec nationalist groups, but the best thing about it was an audio tape the CBC played on the radio several times that morning. The Colonel of the regiment--the real one, not Chuck the honourary one--walked calmly out into the crowd of demonstrators, in full dress uniform, and argued with them. The audio tape recorded a demonstrator bitching at the Colonel about Anglais imperialism and colonialism towards Quebecers (the usual ill-informed emotional song and dance), and the Colonel simply said, "I disagree entirely, but this is a free and democratic state and my job is to fight for your right to say that."

That's the bottom line, folks. The Colonel is one of those rough men who stand ready. Mr. Vance can promote his ignorant and ill-informed opinions freely because there are people like the Colonel who stand ready to defend his right to do so. And for that we should all be grateful.
 
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ironsides

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[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif][FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]by [/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Laurence M. Vance[/FONT]​





[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]We’ve all seen the bumper stickers: "My son is in the Air Force," "If You Can Read This in English, Thank a Marine," "Proud Vietnam Veteran," "Fly Navy," and of course, "Thank a Vet."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Why should we?[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]November 11, 2010[/FONT]

And yet they all would not be here plying their trades if it were not for the Veteran. See it falls back upon the veteran again. It is more likely that the doctors, writers, electricians, lawyers and politicians were the ones who started the wars in the first place, veterans sure didn't. They just fought them so those to lazy or of the cowardly persuasion could live their humdrum lives.
 

Ron in Regina

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I wish I could "Greenie" the above post more than once....but I can't. My sentiments exactly.
Thank you for that well thought out & elegantly spoken (typed) post Mr. Sinister.
 

gerryh

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And yet they all would not be here plying their trades if it were not for the Veteran. See it falls back upon the veteran again. It is more likely that the doctors, writers, electricians, lawyers and politicians were the ones who started the wars in the first place, veterans sure didn't. They just fought them so those to lazy or of the cowardly persuasion could live their humdrum lives.


only a complete f^cking dick would make the above statements. As bad as jbee.

Typical war mongering piece of shyte attitude. If you don't agree with murder, and you don't support the murderous bloody waste called war.... then you're a coward. F^ck you, you useless piece of crap.
 
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JLM

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Another hateful thread from the usual suspect.

Again this morning, I agree with you. A lot of Bullsh*t in Vance's diatribe. :smile:

only a complete f^cking dick would make the above statements. As bad as jbee.

Typical war mongering piece of shyte attitude. If you don't agree with murder, and you don't support the murderous bloody waste called war.... then you're a coward. F^ck you, you useless piece of crap.

Sounds like you are "decided" on this issue. :smile:
 

ironsides

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only a complete f^cking dick would make the above statements. As bad as jbee.

Typical war mongering piece of shyte attitude. If you don't agree with murder, and you don't support the murderous bloody waste called war.... then you're a coward. F^ck you, you useless piece of crap.

Where exactly did I take away your right to oppose a conflict, not supporting it and outwardly opposing your country's decisions are two different things. If your country sends troops to put their lives on the line for you, you should at least respect what they are doing. Any other reaction and my previous statements hold true. It is time for all of us to stand on the wall.
 

gerryh

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Where exactly did I take away your right to oppose a conflict, not supporting it and outwardly opposing your country's decisions are two different things. If your country sends troops to put their lives on the line for you, you should at least respect what they are doing. Any other reaction and my previous statements hold true. It is time for all of us to stand on the wall.


and my reply stands true..... a f*cking warmongering murderer. So f*cking "brave" to stand behind the gun.
 

ironsides

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What I am saying is that you (not you personally) create the wars, then expect others to go fight them for you. Maybe conscript should be brought back for everyone, might slow down the frequency or wars. By the way typical liberal answer. Funny it always shows itself.
 

Unforgiven

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What I am saying is that you (not you personally) create the wars, then expect others to go fight them for you. Maybe conscript should be brought back for everyone, might slow down the frequency or wars. By the way typical liberal answer. Funny it always shows itself.

I guess anything you don't agree with must be a typical liberal answer.
A hand full of very rich people create war. Nations suffer them. The poor fight them.
I think if you asked Gerry he would tell you that he didn't want you to go fight any war, that those who have answered the call, are due the honour of remembrance day.

I agree with conscription though. Everyone should be forced to serve in war time bar none. Those children of those rich people who start wars should be fighting them along side the children of the poor while the rest of us should spend every waking hour building and providing the devastating tools to end war as soon as possible. Until then no tv, night clubs, golf or vacations.
 

Unforgiven

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The really sad part is that many vets gave their lives so the ignorant can post comments like that.

Name one Vet that gave their life so that the ignorant can can post comments you don't like. Just one.
This is such bull****. There isn't a soldier alive that says they're in the military and looking to kill or be killed for all the assholes in the country.

All this leads to is the support our troops crap that really means you're not allowed to voice an opinion unless I agree with it. You want to support a Vet go help on pay their bills, rehab and get on with their life instead of wanking on a message board about who can post what.
 

ironsides

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I guess anything you don't agree with must be a typical liberal answer.
A hand full of very rich people create war. Nations suffer them. The poor fight them.
I think if you asked Gerry he would tell you that he didn't want you to go fight any war, that those who have answered the call, are due the honour of remembrance day.

I agree with conscription though. Everyone should be forced to serve in war time bar none. Those children of those rich people who start wars should be fighting them along side the children of the poor while the rest of us should spend every waking hour building and providing the devastating tools to end war as soon as possible. Until then no tv, night clubs, golf or vacations.

Typical liberal answer "f*cking" or some term like that like that, they lose it. not the substance of his reply. No one asked Gerry, his country went to war, he did not like it. If you oppose something strong enough, you sacrifice your freedom to stop it. Many a countries direction has been changed by that method throughout history.
 

taxslave

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Name one Vet that gave their life so that the ignorant can can post comments you don't like. Just one.
This is such bull****. There isn't a soldier alive that says they're in the military and looking to kill or be killed for all the assholes in the country.

All this leads to is the support our troops crap that really means you're not allowed to voice an opinion unless I agree with it. You want to support a Vet go help on pay their bills, rehab and get on with their life instead of wanking on a message board about who can post what.

Probably the only reason you are even alive is because some soldier gave his life.
 

shadowshiv

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All this `daring to speak one`s mind` must really irk you pretty little flowers, huh?

But the thing is, you don't speak your mind. All you do is C&P an article and then feed off the comments that are made to your latest C&P project.
 

Goober

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Name one Vet that gave their life so that the ignorant can can post comments you don't like. Just one.
This is such bull****. There isn't a soldier alive that says they're in the military and looking to kill or be killed for all the assholes in the country.

All this leads to is the support our troops crap that really means you're not allowed to voice an opinion unless I agree with it. You want to support a Vet go help on pay their bills, rehab and get on with their life instead of wanking on a message board about who can post what.

That is the Govts responsibility - Write your MP, it is free, no postage required and let him/her know what you think of the disgusting creature called "The New veterans Charter" passed by a Liberal/Conservative agreement in 1 week to save costs for treating Soldiers they ordered into battle.


As to the thoughts of a Soldier - We are all well aware that some look upon us with utter disgust. Soldiers live with reality. And that is the reality when Wars are fought.

Just my personal opinion is all.