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petros

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The mid august rains on the plains are nothing new there is no extra causing floods, they are right on time and as refreshingly cool as always. In two/three weeks it will happen again and there will be near misses on frost as always too.
 

L Gilbert

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What the **** is your point?
That you don't have one.

The mid august rains on the plains are nothing new there is no extra causing floods, they are right on time and as refreshingly cool as always.
So? We got two widely different winters in a row the last two years. We've also had a spring/summer that does not resemble anything like last year's. Does that indicate anything about global climate? No.
In two/three weeks it will happen again and there will be near misses on frost as always too.
Yeah. Weather happens.
 

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Did global warming stop in 1998?


To claim global warming stopped in 1998 overlooks one simple physical reality - the land and atmosphere are just a small fraction of the Earth's climate (albeit the part we inhabit). The entire planet is accumulating heat due to an energy imbalance. The atmosphere is warming. Oceans are accumulating energy. Land absorbs energy and ice absorbs heat to melt. To get the full picture on global warming, you need to view the Earth's entire heat content.
This analysis is performed in An observationally based energy balance for the Earth since 1950 (Murphy 2009) which adds up heat content from the ocean, atmosphere, land and ice. To calculate the Earth's total heat content, the authors used data of ocean heat content from the upper 700 metres. They included heat content from deeper waters down to 3000 metres depth. They computed atmospheric heat content using the surface temperature record and the heat capacity of the troposphere. Land and ice heat content (the energy required to melt ice) were also included.

Figure 1: Total Earth Heat Content anomaly from 1950 (Murphy 2009). Ocean data taken from Domingues et al 2008. Land + Atmosphere includes the heat absorbed to melt ice.
A look at the Earth's total heat content clearly shows global warming has continued past 1998. The planet is still accumulating heat. So why do surface temperature records show 1998 as the hottest year on record? We see in Figure 1 that the heat capacity of the land and atmosphere is small compared to the ocean. Hence, relatively small exchanges of heat between the atmosphere and ocean can cause significant changes in surface temperature.
In 1998, an abnormally strong El Nino caused heat transfer from the Pacific Ocean to the atmosphere. Consequently, we experienced above average surface temperatures. Conversely, the last few years have seen moderate La Nina conditions which had a cooling effect on global temperatures. And the last few months have swung back to warmer El Nino conditions. This has coincided with the warmest June-August sea surface temperatures on record. This internal variation where heat is shuffled around our climate is the reason why surface temperature is such a noisy signal.
Using moving averages to discern the long-term trend

With so much internal variability, scientists employ statistical methods to discern long-term trends in surface temperature. The easiest way to remove short-term variations, revealing any underlying trend, is to plot a moving average, performed in Waiting for Cooling (Fawcett & Jones 2008) . Figure 2 displays the 11-year moving average - an average calculated over the year itself and five years either side. They've used three different data-sets - NCDC, NASA GISS and the British HadCRUT3. In all three data-sets, the moving average shows no sign that the warming trend has reversed.

Figure 2: Globally-averaged annual mean temperature anomalies in degrees Celsius, together with 11-year unweighted moving averages (solid lines). Blue circles from the Hadley Centre (British). Red diamonds from NASA GISS. Green squares from NOAA NCDC. NASA GISS and NOAA NCDC are offset in vertical direction by increments of 0.5°C for visual clarity.
The linear trend from 1998 to 2007

Next, Fawcett and Jones look for a cooling trend in the 10 years since 1998. They find the linear trend over 1998 to 2007 is a warming trend in all three data-sets. Note that HadCRUT3 displays less warming than NASA GISS and NCDC. This is most likely due to the fact that HadCRUT data doesn't cover parts of the Arctic where there has been strong warming in recent years.

Figure 3: Linear trends (solid lines) in the three global annual mean temperature anomaly time series over the decade 1998-2007.
Removing the El Niño signal from the temperature record


The reason that 1998 was such an anomalously warm year was due to a strong El Niño that year. Fawcett and Jones remove the El Niño Southern Oscillation (ENSO) signal by calculating a linear regression of global temperatures against the Southern Oscillation Index. A detailed description of the process is found in Fawcett 2007. The result is shown in Figure 4.

Figure 4: Three time series of globally-averaged annual mean temperature anomalies (circles) in degrees Celsius, together with ENSO-adjusted versions (lines), for the period 1910-2007.
All 3 data sets demonstrate that the anomalously hot 1998 was due to the strong El Niño of 1997/98. When ENSO-adjusted, 1998 looks much less remarkable than it does in the original data. In all 3 ENSO-adjusted data-sets, 2006 is the hottest year on record and the trend from 1998 to 2007 is that of warming.
Is 1998 actually the hottest year on record?

Of the 3 temperature records HadCRUT3, NASA GISS and NCDC, only HadCRUT3 actually shows 1998 as the hottest year on record. For NASA GISS and NCDC, the hottest year on record is 2005. A new independent analysis of the HadCRUT record sheds light on this discrepancy. The analysis is by the European Centre for Medium-Range Weather Forecasts (ECMWF) who calculated global temperature, utilizing a range of sources including surface temperature measurements, satellites, radiosondes, ships and buoys. They found warming has been higher than that shown by HadCRUT. This is because HadCRUT is sampling regions that have exhibited less change, on average, than the entire globe.
Figure 5 shows the regions that HadCRUT have sampled compared to the regions ECMWF included in their dataset. The ECMWF analysis shows that in data-sparse regions such as Russia, Africa and Canada, there is strong warming over land that is not included in the HadCRUT's sampling data. This leads the ECMWF to infer with high confidence that the HadCRUT record is at the lower end of likely warming.

Figure 5: Increase in mean near-surface temperature (°C) from (1989-98) to (1999-2008). Top figure shows HadCRUT sampling regions, lower figure shows ECMWF analysis (ECMWF 2009).
This result is not unexpected. NASA GISS find a major contributor to the record hot 2005 is the extreme warming in the Arctic (Hansen 2006). As there are few meteorological stations in the Arctic, NASA extrapolated temperature anomalies from the nearest measurement stations. They found the estimated strong Arctic warmth was consistent with infrared satellite measurements and record low sea ice concentrations.

Figure 6: Surface temperature anomaly for the first half-decade of the 21st century (Hansen 2006).

But but but....I just don't know.:lol:
 

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How can you find a consistent and constant on "climate"? It isn't an exact science.

For modelling experiments you hold factors constant. There will be wiggles in the output, but the output from the model is essentially what you compare against other forcing ensembles.

Why wouldn't it cause ocean acidification. If I leave a glass of saline solution in the sun, it gets saltier as the water evaporates.

Because the ratio of H+ and OH- ions won't change when water evaporates from the ocean. And as the water warms, the solubility of gases in the ocean decreases, so the oceans would actually lose carbon dioxide.

I hate stats. I like things I can touch and feel. I'm rudimentary like that.

After taking courses in it, you can touch and get a feel for it. I have no feel for welding stainless steel.

Isn't that sort of contradicting what you said about the fringe of the bell curve model?

No. I'm about to head out the door, but I'll explain this in better detail later if you like.

So where do we go from here?

How to mitigate and adapt to the changes we see already, and the changes which we have yet to face.
 

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I have one last message to convey on this stupid thread. I've got no idea whether we're into global warming or global cooling but the reason it's a stupid thread is because the world is +/- 2 billion years old and in that span 1000 years could hardly be considered a trend let alone 10 or 20 years. All I know for sure is parts of the world are warming and parts are cooling which I would interpret as being normal and that's all I have to say about that. :lol:
Fruit flies have been around for some few hundred thousand years yet the trend is that they only live for a few hours.
Get the drift?
 

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Friends of Science lose Global Cooling and the Issue

http://friendsofginandtonic.org/files/category-mp3.html

The concreteheads of the Friends of Science (FoS) publish their global cooling trend for the decade monthly. Their decade starts on the cherry picked 1st of January 2002 and ends at the end of each consecutive month. So, their cooling trend is shrinking while their decade is expanding. It will be a true decade after December 2011.

FoS’ cooling cooling trend [measurement error is 0.05 C]:
  • 1st Jan 2002 to end of February 2010: 0.12C
  • 1st Jan 2002 to end of April 2010: 0.06C
  • 1st Jan 2002 to end of July 2010: 0.01C (see below)
  • 1st Jan 2002 to end of August 2010: FoS have retreated to a golf course monastery to pray that their cherry trend will not be a positive one.
Chief denier Patrick Michaels, at the Heartland 2008 Conference on Climate Change, had a more realistic idea [Audio; 1:49; 1.7 MB] of whether global warming has stopped - or rather not: “If you lose credibility on the issue you lose the issue.” ...“And if you make that argument now [that global warming has stopped], you’re gonna have a very very difficult time defending the future“. Again, no worries here that the deniers are consistent.

 

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Unusually low...meaning, unlike the climatology...meaning...not evidence that the globe is cooling.
 

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It's cold in dem der hills.
Cold empties Bolivian rivers of fish : Nature News
The comments are particularly good.

2 of the comments are especially telling:

Climate Change is the rubber band of explanations. It is stretched to fit any and all occurrences. Last year it meant Global Warming and unprecedented hurricanes. When that didn't happen it now means unusual cold snaps. We need to get over it. The climate has always changed, it will always change. The earths climate has been inhospitably cold for the majority of the last few billion years. We are lucky to live in a warm interglacial period. We should be worrying about how to survive when the ice returns.

Climate Change Dictionary

  1. PEER REVIEW: The act of banding together a group of like-minded academics with a funding conflict of interest, for the purpose of squeezing out any research voices that threaten the multi-million dollar government grant gravy train.
  2. SETTLED SCIENCE: Betrayal of the scientific method for politics or money or both.
  3. DENIER: Anyone who suspects the truth.
  4. CLIMATE CHANGE: What has been happening for billions of years, but should now be flogged to produce 'panic for profit.'
  5. NOBEL PEACE PRIZE: Leftist Nutcase Prize, unrelated to "Peace" in any meaningful way.
  6. DATA, EVIDENCE: Unnecessary details. If anyone asks for this, see "DENIER," above.
  7. CLIMATE SCIENTIST: A person skilled in spouting obscure, scientific-sounding jargon that has the effect of deflecting requests for "DATA" by "DENIERS." Also skilled at affecting an aura of "Smartest Person in the Room" to buffalo gullible legislators and journalists.
  8. JUNK SCIENCE: The use of invalid scientific evidence resulting in findings of causation which simply cannot be justified or understood from the standpoint of the current state of credible scientific or medical knowledge.
 

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Until 2009, the Arctic pack ice prevented regular marine shipping throughout most of the year, but climate change has reduced the pack ice, and this Arctic shrinkage made the waterways more navigable
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Passage

Interesting.. I wonder why the current Canadian government is all of a sudden making their stake in the arctic? Seems kind of .. oh.. coincidental that the passage has opened up due to climate change while Canada has been the most lax in reducing carbon emissions now more than ever... I wonder if there is any correlation between this suddenly apparent economic opportunity and the avoidance to reduce any emissions targets..

Hmm...
 
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petros

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The trip started in 1903. It took multiple winters to get through, the passage was likely never entirely open in any single season.
Could they travel at 15 knots back then?

In 1903 as it is today those who avoided frost bite ran to the outhouse the fastest.