Another Tamil ship on its way to our shores

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They will all be housed in prisons when they arrive in Victoria.

VANCOUVER - RCMP and the Canada Border Services Agency are expected to board a ship that may be carrying Tamil Tigers sometime this week, says the spokesman for a B.C. municipality.
John Leeburn with the District of Maple Ridge, 45 kilometres east of Vancouver, said Tuesday that two local prisons will be used to house those on board the MV Sun Sea.
The Thai cargo ship is reported to be carrying about 200 Sri Lankans.
Ottawa has expressed concern about members of the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Elam — a banned terrorist organization in Canada — being on board the vessel.
Leeburn said district officials were briefed about the plan late last week by wardens at the Fraser Regional Correctional Centre and the Alouette Correctional Centre for women.
"What we were told was that mid-week this week, the RCMP and Canada Border Services would be boarding the vessel off-shore and that ultimately the vessel would dock in Victoria," he said in an interview.
Leeburn said about 100 men and 80 women would then be transported to the two provincial prisons. He couldn't say where any children would be housed if they were found on board.
RCMP declined comment on the matter Tuesday. Foreign Affairs could not immediately be reached.
Public Safety Minister Vic Toews said Monday the federal government is monitoring the situation closely. He declined to comment on the specifics of the government's plan.
Toews did say that while the government is committed to protecting genuine refugees, it will thwart those who try to abuse Canada's immigration policies.
The ship heading to British Columbia contains both members of the Tamil Tigers, the military arm of the Tamil separatist movement, and Sri Lankan Tamils who paid them huge sums for safe passage, said Professor Rohan Gunaratna, at Nanyang Technological University in Singapore.
Gunaratna, who's studied the organization for more than 20 years, said the MV Sun Sea was initially bound for Australia but changed course when its crew realized the country has toughened up its refugee laws.
"The Tamil Tigers currently are laughing at Canada, how naive the Canadians are, and I believe that Canada should take a stand that it will not permit anyone who has engaged in terrorism ... to enter Canada," he said.
Two more ships are set to deploy from Thailand or Indonesia in coming months based on Canada's response to the MV Sun Sea, he said.

Whatever it is they do with these illegal immigrants when they land here just isn't working- surely amongst the powers that be there is one "bright candle" who can figure that out. :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
 

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Heheh..If it wasn't for a bit of levity and ...yes...a bit of trolling....once in a while...this place would die of boredom:lol:

you can discuss religion, politics and global warming only for so long and after a while, reading seems to be a rerun of the same old arguments.....something like the movie Groundhog Day:lol::roll:

You got that right, that god damned warming and cooling is getting to be like last Xmas' turkey. :lol::lol::lol:
 

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The goodness of Canadians is well known in the internetional world....

But often goodness is interpreted as weakness.

Can you guarantee work for all - will they be able to sustain themselves by providing for self through work and contribution to the health plan and social security and insurance?

Once this door has opened and this group are accepted without having to enter as all other immigrants do, you will pave the way for many others.

It happens regularly just south of the border.
 
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JLM

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The goodness of Canadians is well known in the internetional world....

But often goodness is interpreted as weakness.

Can you guarantee work for all - will they be able to sustain themselves by providing for self through work and contribution to the health plan and social security and insurance?

Once this door has opened and this group are accepted without having to enter as all other immigrants do, you will pave the way for many others.

It happens regularly just south of the border.

I think you've pretty much identified the problem. How many immigrants can a country of 30 million absorb? Right now the census procedure up here is a big issue. I think one really useful piece of information they should obtain is how many of our convicts in prison for drug and gang activity are immigrants. That just might prove that the system should be changed.
 

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About a previous Tamil ship landing - I hope someone knows - I certainly don't but I'll go snoop....

Well Google and Wiki have quite a few essays on the history of Tamils in Canada

Here's one link I captured for you to review but there are many from varying sources:
CANADA TO SPEED UP TAMIL FAMILY IMMIGRATION - Cutting the wait might ease some of the anxiety of those in the Tamil-Canadian community, estimated at 250,000 to 300,000,- Does HE know that most TAMILS are Selfish, RACISTS and PUPPETS.. - Sri Lanka
 

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About a previous Tamil ship landing - I hope someone knows - I certainly don't but I'll go snoop....

Well Google and Wiki have quite a few essays on the history of Tamils in Canada

Here's one link I captured for you to review but there are many from varying sources:
CANADA TO SPEED UP TAMIL FAMILY IMMIGRATION - Cutting the wait might ease some of the anxiety of those in the Tamil-Canadian community, estimated at 250,000 to 300,000,- Does HE know that most TAMILS are Selfish, RACISTS and PUPPETS.. - Sri Lanka
Yes, a Tamil Ship landed in Canada earlier in the year, they were detained for approx 3 months before they were allowed to move along to Scarborough, where the majority of Tamil-Canadian's live. I believe it was the star.com that had the story, but approx 85% of them are still on welfare while they try to obtain work permits and the necessary English skills.
 

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Simple....

Board the ship at sea.

Arrest her officers and transport them to shore for trial on charges of human smuggling.

Take a medical team on board to do check-ups on the cargo........transport the seriously ill to shore.

Put aboard fuel, food, water, a small navy contingent to sail her.

Send her back to Sri Lanka.

National Post editorial board: Turn back the Tamil ship | Full Comment | National Post


Why can't the powers that be have that kind of common sense?
 

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The goodness of Canadians is well known in the internetional world....

But often goodness is interpreted as weakness.

Can you guarantee work for all - will they be able to sustain themselves by providing for self through work and contribution to the health plan and social security and insurance?

Once this door has opened and this group are accepted without having to enter as all other immigrants do, you will pave the way for many others.

It happens regularly just south of the border.
I wouldn't interpret doing the right thing as weak. Sometimes it takes strength.

These people will create problems. Housing for one is already being addressed. English or French language training, career training, day care...

Poopalapillai, the spokesman for the Canadian Tamil Congress, said the "information that we have from the Canadian government officials, from the other media sources is, clearly they think the ship is very close to Canada."
He said: "We were told that they are men, women and children on board and they are all from Sri Lanka, mostly Tamils."
He accused the Sri Lankan government of regularly spreading allegations that refugees aboard ships fleeing Sri Lanka belong to the Tamil Tigers.
None of the 76 Tamils who arrived in Canada last year was proven to be a member of the outlawed group, he said.
"They were detained based on these allegations. Our government officials went through case by case and they are free now," he said, adding they were now being considered for refugee status in Canada.
He complained the media focused on "criminality," including trafficking in persons, when it should focus on the human reasons for people fleeing Sri Lanka.
"Why are these people fleeing? Look at the root cause," he said. "It's is very terrible things, extremely hostile conditions in their home country."
AFP: US, Canada monitor ship said full of Sri Lankan refugees

I expect Canada's Tamil community will play a leading role regarding their integration into Canada.

Simple....

Board the ship at sea.

Arrest her officers and transport them to shore for trial on charges of human smuggling.

Take a medical team on board to do check-ups on the cargo........transport the seriously ill to shore.

Put aboard fuel, food, water, a small navy contingent to sail her.

Send her back to Sri Lanka.

National Post editorial board: Turn back the Tamil ship | Full Comment | National Post

The result would be a slaughter. Even though Canada wouldn't be butchering these men, women and children, we would be an accessory to the crime.
 

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I wouldn't interpret doing the right thing as weak. Sometimes it takes strength.

These people will create problems. Housing for one is already being addressed. English or French language training, career training, day care...

AFP: US, Canada monitor ship said full of Sri Lankan refugees

I expect Canada's Tamil community will play a leading role regarding their integration into Canada.

OK Donkey.



We spend Billions on Illegal immigrants that can take decades to deport. The system is fuked.
Please recall the gentleman from India - Sikhs in BC stated they would pay the medical costs - Then they disappeared. It cost over 600, 000 $ to deport this fellow.

Start educating yourself on the Immigration / Ethnic Industry started by the Liberals.
 

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Given the situation, the Canadian thing to do is absorb our share of the legitimate refugees. Isolate and identify them. Sort criminals from civilians. We grant refugee status to the civilians. Each criminal will have to be dealt with individually based on what they did, who wants them and what services can they offer Canada.

Amnesty International 2010 Annual report - Sri Lankan
Some 300,000 Tamil civilians were displaced by
armed conflict, and subsequently detained in
government camps. Those suspected of ties with the
Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) – more than
12,000 – were detained separately. Many were held
incommunicado and sometimes in facilities not
designed to hold prisoners or in secret places of
detention. Civilians were trapped for months prior to
the conflict’s end in May without adequate food,
shelter, sanitation and medical care, or access to
humanitarian aid. The LTTE used civilians as human
shields and used threats and violence to prevent
them from fleeing the conflict zone. Government
artillery killed and wounded civilians, including
patients in hospitals and medical workers. The
government failed to address impunity for past
human rights violations, and continued to carry out
enforced disappearances and torture. Hundreds of
Tamils continued to be detained in the south for
lengthy periods without charge under special
security legislation. Human rights defenders and
journalists were killed, assaulted, threatened and
jailed. Police killings of criminal suspects
intensified.
http://thereport.amnesty.org/sites/default/files/AIR2010_AZ_EN.pdf#page=248

Most of these men, women and children will be killed or persecuted if we return them to Sri Lanka. Their old lives are over. Canada is their hope for a new life.
 
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Simple....

Board the ship at sea.

Arrest her officers and transport them to shore for trial on charges of human smuggling.

Take a medical team on board to do check-ups on the cargo........transport the seriously ill to shore.

Put aboard fuel, food, water, a small navy contingent to sail her.

Send her back to Sri Lanka.

National Post editorial board: Turn back the Tamil ship | Full Comment | National Post

Thats what should happen, but it will never happen. As others have said, it makes too much sense.
 

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Some 300,000 Tamil civilians were displaced by
armed conflict, and subsequently detained in
government camps. Those suspected of ties with the
Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) – more than
12,000 – were detained separately. Many were held
incommunicado and sometimes in facilities not
designed to hold prisoners or in secret places of
detention. Civilians were trapped for months prior to
the conflict’s end in May without adequate food,
shelter, sanitation and medical care, or access to
humanitarian aid. The LTTE used civilians as human
shields and used threats and violence to prevent
them from fleeing the conflict zone. Government
artillery killed and wounded civilians, including
patients in hospitals and medical workers. The
government failed to address impunity for past
human rights violations, and continued to carry out
enforced disappearances and torture. Hundreds of
Tamils continued to be detained in the south for
lengthy periods without charge under special
security legislation. Human rights defenders and
journalists were killed, assaulted, threatened and
jailed. Police killings of criminal suspects
intensified.
http://thereport.amnesty.org/sites/default/files/AIR2010_AZ_EN.pdf#page=248

Yes I am more than well aware of that - Please post the stats for the Child Suicide bombers, the Indoctrination of children to sacrifice their lives
Also the number of atrocities the Tamils committed - Balance is both sides of an situation such as this.

Simon - I am sure they named a game after you
 

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The result would be a slaughter. Even though Canada wouldn't be butchering these men, women and children, we would be an accessory to the crime.
Just out of curiosity, if they're so vulnerable and helpless, how the heck did they get the means and resources to get a ship, equip it, stock it, fuel it, and sail half-way round the world?

And why didn't they go to Brazil? Brazil has a climate closer to what they'd be used to, and Brazil is one of those nations classified as still having a frontier.
 

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Just out of curiosity, if they're so vulnerable and helpless, how the heck did they get the means and resources to get a ship, equip it, stock it, fuel it, and sail half-way round the world?

And why didn't they go to Brazil? Brazil has a climate closer to what they'd be used to, and Brazil is one of those nations classified as still having a frontier.
Canada is the easiest Country in the world to gain refugee asylum - Why we even have a convicted Palestinian Terrorist that the govt has been trying to deport for nearly 20 years. As I mentioned earlier - The system is Fuked and we can lay that at the feet of the Liberals.