Israel 'attacks' Gaza aid fleet

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It is not uncommon for children who experience abuse to grow up to be abusers.
The Jews were abused.
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You are correct about the abused can grow up to be abusers, not all but many do - Same goes with any negative physical action or emotional -
Those that are raised to hate - Hate -

One major problem is the average Palestinian has been Fuked over for generations by everyone including their leadership - their Fellow co-religionists - each other.

I really wonder if we should put some average 10-14 year olds in charge of the Peace Process. And make it enforceable -
 

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Did The IDF Execute Mavi Marmara Victims?

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Did The IDF Execute Mavi Marmara Victims? (Is The Sky Blue And Do Bears Crap In The Woods?)
It is so amazing how the Media in the United States is completely controlled by Israeli Interest. It is also confounding how most people in the United States (and Canada as well) are still totally unaware of the massacre of Humanitarian Aid workers on the Gaza Freedom Flotilla bound for the concentration camp called Gaza on the morning of May 31st, 2010.
"According to this new report from Counterpunch at www.counterpunch.org, it seems that the passengers on the Mavi Marmara were killed execution style by being shot in the back by the Commandos!"
 

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Did The IDF Execute Mavi Marmara Victims?

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Did The IDF Execute Mavi Marmara Victims? (Is The Sky Blue And Do Bears Crap In The Woods?)
It is so amazing how the Media in the United States is completely controlled by Israeli Interest. It is also confounding how most people in the United States (and Canada as well) are still totally unaware of the massacre of Humanitarian Aid workers on the Gaza Freedom Flotilla bound for the concentration camp called Gaza on the morning of May 31st, 2010.
"According to this new report from Counterpunch at www.counterpunch.org, it seems that the passengers on the Mavi Marmara were killed execution style by being shot in the back by the Commandos!"

Guess you never watched the videos eh - Are you on a different channel
 

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heavy weapons found in the cargo of the m/s. Mavi marmara flotilla vessel.

http://www.flix.co.il/tapuz/showVideo.asp?m=3423928

Hard to believe they would be that blatant........I would like to believe this one, but I am left with some real doubts......it just doesn't smell quite right.

Of course, they don't have to convince me the blockade is necessary.....that is only common sense.....a rare thing nowadays. if this ship did not contain weapons, and the blockade was dropped.....the next ship would be full of missiles.

And if the navys of Iran and Turkey wish to escort vessels to Gaza, I would fully support a re-occupation of Gaza....leaving the vessels nowhere to land their cargo. If they want to play chess.........don't play the game on their terms.
 

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Hard to believe they would be that blatant........I would like to believe this one, but I am left with some real doubts......it just doesn't smell quite right.

Of course, they don't have to convince me the blockade is necessary.....that is only common sense.....a rare thing nowadays. if this ship did not contain weapons, and the blockade was dropped.....the next ship would be full of missiles.

And if the navys of Iran and Turkey wish to escort vessels to Gaza, I would fully support a re-occupation of Gaza....leaving the vessels nowhere to land their cargo. If they want to play chess.........don't play the game on their terms.
Good for you.

There is no talk of stopping inspections, they just want it to be done on the seas without being diverted. If it is hard to inspect containers then get something certified by somebody who witnessed the packing of the container. Put a seal on it and when inspected at sea the seals could be checked for tampering. Soft items could go straight to Gaza and hardware through Egypt's new mobile port just below the border. As long as the goods were to get through protective warships would be happy to see it off loaded in either port. As it there are intentional delays and the sent goods (the good stuff) gets lost. (Stolen by Israel is how some would put it)

Kind of stupid of them to show how much Iranian hardware they have in storage. Makes those false-flag rockets square within the possibility it is Israel launching them being as they just showed them to the world.

It doesn't stop at food either, I want them to be able to chat with you directly and without restriction. Wouldn't that be fun for both of you?

The game is already over, Egypt will not be closing that passageway. All Israel has to do is decide who they want patrolling the beaches cause they won't get close enough to kill people while they are in the water. Be smart and say under the current conditions Hamas (with back-up being supplied via some Blue Helmets) is the best choice, then get your handlers to say the same.
 
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Hard to believe they would be that blatant........I would like to believe this one, but I am left with some real doubts......it just doesn't smell quite right.

Of course, they don't have to convince me the blockade is necessary.....that is only common sense.....a rare thing nowadays. if this ship did not contain weapons, and the blockade was dropped.....the next ship would be full of missiles.

And if the navys of Iran and Turkey wish to escort vessels to Gaza, I would fully support a re-occupation of Gaza....leaving the vessels nowhere to land their cargo. If they want to play chess.........don't play the game on their terms.
It did look a little obvious, haven't seen it anyplace else (reliable).
 

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It did look a little obvious, haven't seen it anyplace else (reliable).
Kind of stupid of them to show how much Iranian hardware they have in storage. Makes those false-flag rockets square within the possibility it is Israel launching them being as they just showed them to the world.
 

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Good for you.

There is no talk of stopping inspections, they just want it to be done on the seas without being diverted. If it is hard to inspect containers then get something certified by somebody who witnessed the packing of the container. Put a seal on it and when inspected at sea the seals could be checked for tampering. Soft items could go straight to Gaza and hardware through Egypt's new mobile port just below the border. As long as the goods were to get through protective warships would be happy to see it off loaded in either port. As it there are intentional delays and the sent goods (the good stuff) gets lost. (Stolen by Israel is how some would put it)

Kind of stupid of them to show how much Iranian hardware they have in storage. Makes those false-flag rockets square within the possibility it is Israel launching them being as they just showed them to the world.

It doesn't stop at food either, I want them to be able to chat with you directly and without restriction. Wouldn't that be fun for both of you?

The game is already over, Egypt will not be closing that passageway. All Israel has to do is decide who they want patrolling the beaches cause they won't get close enough to kill people while they are in the water. Be smart and say under the current conditions Hamas (with back-up being supplied via some Blue Helmets) is the best choice, then get your handlers to say the same.

Have the ships dock at Israeli ports - under UN Inspection and controlled by UN fro transit - UN to co-inpsect the containers along with Israeli Officials.
 

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Almost none of the cargo of the Mavi Marmara will make it into Gaza according to Israeli blockade rules.

Dyer: How to break the Gaza blockade? Try again

By Gwynne Dyer
Syndicated Columnist

Updated: 06/09/2010 05:14:48 PM MDT




United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki-moon has called for an end to the Israeli blockade of the Gaza Strip. Britain, France, Germany and Russia have done the same. After Israeli commandos killed nine peace activists aboard a ship that was trying to deliver humanitarian aid to Gaza, even U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton called the blockade "unsustainable and unacceptable." But how can it be ended?


Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu, predictably, is brazening it out. He blames the victims for their own deaths. They were "violent Turkish terror extremists" on a "ship of hate": people so violent and Turkish and terroristic and extremist that the poor Israeli commandos had no choice but to fire 30 bullets into the nine who were killed, and wound 30-odd others for good measure.


Anybody with the slightest experience of the real world knows what must have happened on the deck of Mavi Marmara, the aid ship in question. A bunch of over-confident, under-trained Israeli commandos ran into unexpected resistance from activists, a few of whom had improvised but serious weapons like iron bars. Maybe one or two had knives. And one or two of the commandos panicked and opened fire.


Then the rest of the commandos joined in, presumably thinking that the shooters were responding to a real threat. They all blasted away for 20 or 30 seconds, and when their magazines were empty there were 40 bodies on the deck, some writhing in pain and others lying very still. After that, there was nothing the commandos could do but come up with a story that excused their actions.

This atrocious event has put the Israeli policy of blocking supplies to the Gaza Strip in the spotlight and raises two questions. Does it really give Israel added security at a reasonable cost to Palestinians? And if it is doesn't, then how can it be ended?


The blockade of Gaza began in 2007, after Hamas, which does not recognize the legitimacy of the Israeli state, won a brief civil war and took control of the densely populated territory. It launched thousands of crude, home-made rockets against towns in southern Israel, killing 10 Israelis, so in early 2009 Israel attacked the Gaza Strip.


At least 1,300 Palestinians died, and only 13 Israelis. Since then Hamas has observed a cease-fire. Other Palestinian militants still launch sporadic rocket attacks from the Gaza Strip, but only one person in Israel has been killed in the past 18 months. Yet the blockade continues unabated.


Only one-quarter of the normal volume of supplies makes it through the sole Israeli checkpoint.


As a result, the 1.5 million people in the Strip have been reduced to abject poverty, and Israel seems determined to keep up the pressure until they reject Hamas (which they backed in free elections in 2007) and overthrow it. Just how they are to do that, however, is not clear.
Israel has the right to prevent weapons from entering the Gaza Strip, but it is hard to see how cement, macaroni, soccer balls, tomato paste and fruit juices (all banned) fit that description. In any case, the materials to make the rockets has always come in through tunnels under the frontier with Egypt, and is unaffected by Israel's blockade.
The blockade is simply collective punishment, which is illegal under international law. It has not overthrown Hamas, but instead has strengthened its control over the population. It should be ended, but how?


The Israeli government is now on the defensive on this issue, and a cheap and effective tactic would be to send another aid ship or flotilla to run the blockade every week or so. The cargo should be inspected and certified as weapons-free by the port authorities in Greece, Italy, France or wherever they sail from.


The blockade-runners should not agree to go to an Israeli port, because then their cargo would fall victim to Israel's blockade rules. (Almost all of Mavi Marmara's 10,000 tons of cargo was construction materials, and would have been blocked by the Israelis.) The ships should not surrender at the first challenge, but sail on towards Gaza and compel the Israelis to conduct hostile boarding operations against them.


The crews should not physically resist the Israeli troops, but some of them would probably be hurt. Would some be killed? Possibly, though Israel will try to avoid another public relations disaster. Might they end up serving jail sentences in Israel? Maybe, if Netanyahu's government is in a particularly self-destructive mood.


Volunteers can easily be found for these aid missions, and so can the money to pay for them. Carry out one operation a week for the next couple of months, and the blockade would almost certainly crumble. Netanyahu's government would either change its policy or fall. Either outcome would be greeted with pleasure in almost every capital in the world, including Washington.



Dyer: How to break the Gaza blockade? Try again - Salt Lake Tribune
 

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I used to like Dyer, been to one of his lectures.......but he is way off base here.

when you are attacked, of COURSE you open fire. Gee willikers, Batman!

You, and he, and much of the rest of the world will not stop until Israel has re-occupied Gaza.

It is simply silly.

And THIS time they might act like a REAL occupying force....you know, curfews, shoot first ask questions later, live ammo on stone throwers.....

no more Mr. Nice Guy.

Oh, and BTW, the aid never got there because Hamas REFUSED it! On a matter of "principle" (there is a laugh!)

Nothing like using your own people as a political football.
 

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My point exactly EF.

If Israel were to allow a large contingent set up along the border, while they pull back, and allow complete freedom of movement and commerce.

Then the world will see who the real aggressors are.

Following me?

The world has already seen who the real aggressors are and they don't care. It's shaping up to be Holocaust II and all blame will always be laid at the feet of the Joooos. You're dealing with that attitude right here on this thread and it won't be any different in the rest of the world.

Sort of making them something called 'the inhabitants in a land called Palestine', that makes them citizens. If nobody can remember wher they came from how can the be deported if you don;t know where to deport them to? Jews didn't like being moved about, it doesn't suddenly become alright just because the shoe is on the other foot.
They remembered where they came from. They were still there.


Actually Israel was taken apart by God using Neb 500 years before the Romans even came on the scene. God meant that Temple and the return as a temporary thing as in Daniel 9. The Jews were only given the city and the Temple. Christian Jews exiled themselves from their to avoid persecution and death at the hands of the Jews.
Never heard of the Roman diaspora?

I'm not going to bother with the rest of your post. I don't have time for a long drawn out debate with someone who won't accept reality.

Extrafire;1288004] Are you accusing me of planning mass murder? post #1206 forbids personal attacks including despicable accusations of support and planning mass murder, therefore you will retract and apologize or I will press the moderators to have you tossed. Unless of course you want to swap bread recipes. You better have recipes.
When you post a statement that reads like an advocation for a second holocaust you should expect people to understand it that way.

I will neither retract nor apologize. Go ahead and whine to the mods. I stand by my post.

You obviously don't understand ordinary Colonization.
European Jews never set foot in Israel till very late in the 19th century when they began the systematic displacement of the Sephardim, their own kin, supposedly.
Colonization? Do you even understand the meaning of that word?

Exactly what race do you think the Jews are?
Jewish.

Nobody has more religious fanatics than the Israelis and you can't count the kills attributed to them.
Osama bin Laden has been a patsy a scape goat a near total bull**** story Al Quada never existed except as a Mossad/CIA/MI5 terrorist operation.
Wow! You really do live in a fantasy land.

Almost none of the cargo of the Mavi Marmara will make it into Gaza according to Israeli blockade rules.

Dyer: How to break the Gaza blockade? Try again

By Gwynne Dyer
Syndicated Columnist
Having read his article I can best describe my reaction to it as "Gwunne Dyer is a bald faced lier".
 

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Never heard of the Roman diaspora?
Yeah it is what God did after giving Isreael a city and a temple so the Messiah could come to do the things associated with being the High Priest to all of mankind, then He put them back into exile until after Christ has killed all the sinners in the world.

Let Martha or Lazarus write your next post if you think this gathering has Christ at the reigns.

Joh:11:23:
Jesus saith unto her,
Thy brother shall rise again.
Joh:11:24:
Martha saith unto him,
I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.

How about Job, is he around?? Anybody from back then????
 

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heavy weapons found in the cargo of the m/s. Mavi marmara flotilla vessel.

http://www.flix.co.il/tapuz/showVideo.asp?m=3423928
That's completely absurd. The Mavi Marmara wasn't a container ship. It's hold was haphazardly loaded with pallets and bails.

Kind of stupid of them to show how much Iranian hardware they have in storage. Makes those false-flag rockets square within the possibility it is Israel launching them being as they just showed them to the world.
Kind of stupid to think that this was some Israeli footage of what they have stored up.

Okkums Razor would dictate that this is simply footage from a load being inspected from a container ship.

Almost none of the cargo of the Mavi Marmara will make it into Gaza according to Israeli blockade rules.
Thanks to Hamas...

United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki-moon has called for an end to the Israeli blockade of the Gaza Strip. Britain, France, Germany and Russia have done the same. After Israeli commandos killed nine peace activists aboard a ship that was trying to deliver humanitarian aid to Gaza, even U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton called the blockade "unsustainable and unacceptable".
Peace activists don't chant war songs and prepare for battle, as has already been reported, by other activists, that you supplied the evidence of.

Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu, predictably, is brazening it out. He blames the victims for their own deaths. They were "violent Turkish terror extremists" on a "ship of hate": people so violent and Turkish and terroristic and extremist that the poor Israeli commandos had no choice but to fire 30 bullets into the nine who were killed, and wound 30-odd others for good measure.
Supercilious sarcasm aside, that's true.

Anybody with the slightest experience of the real world knows what must have happened on the deck of Mavi Marmara, the aid ship in question.
Absolutely, a legal boarding party was met with extremist violence, and were forced to use lethal force to protect themselves and complete their mission.

Then the rest of the commandos joined in, presumably thinking that the shooters were responding to a real threat. They all blasted away for 20 or 30 seconds, and when their magazines were empty there were 40 bodies on the deck, some writhing in pain and others lying very still. After that, there was nothing the commandos could do but come up with a story that excused their actions.
Conjecture, pure and simple. Reality and all evidence has prove this to be complete bullsh!t.

At least 1,300 Palestinians died, and only 13 Israelis. Since then Hamas has observed a cease-fire. Other Palestinian militants still launch sporadic rocket attacks from the Gaza Strip, but only one person in Israel has been killed in the past 18 months. Yet the blockade continues unabated.
Right, because obviously the blockade works, lol.

As a result, the 1.5 million people in the Strip have been reduced to abject poverty, and Israel seems determined to keep up the pressure until they reject Hamas (which they backed in free elections in 2007) and overthrow it.
Gaza, as the sun goes down...



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But hey, don't let reality get in the of you propaganda war eao, lmao.

Israel has the right to prevent weapons from entering the Gaza Strip, but it is hard to see how cement, macaroni, soccer balls, tomato paste and fruit juices (all banned) fit that description.
You keep saying this, you keep posting other people saying this, but still you haven't provided a shred of proof.

The rest of your article is simply more BS.

The world has already seen who the real aggressors are and they don't care. It's shaping up to be Holocaust II and all blame will always be laid at the feet of the Joooos. You're dealing with that attitude right here on this thread and it won't be any different in the rest of the world.
I won't argue that. But I like experiments. Especially when I get to use deductive reasoning to predict the outcome. I've always found it a fun exercise.

Wow! You really do live in a fantasy land.
Yes she does.
Having read his article I can best describe my reaction to it as "Gwunne Dyer is a bald faced lier".
Something else I can agree with.
 

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As Israel Kills and Maims, Outrage is Directed at Helen Thomas

By Alison Weir June 9, 2010

Whenever Israel commits yet another atrocity, its defenders are quick to redirect public attention away from the grisly crime scene.


Currently, there are headlines about allegedly anti-Semitic comments made by senior White House correspondent Helen Thomas. Pundits across the land evince outrage at her off-the-cuff 25-second statement made to a man who appears to be holding a camera right in her face.


Thomas issued a public apology for her words, but this was insufficient to assuage the wounded feelings of powerful antagonists, and she has now retired from a long and distinguished career.


Before we examine her comments and evaluate their possible validity, let’s look at other recent events having to do with Israel.


On May 31st Israeli commandos killed at least nine unarmed volunteers attempting to take humanitarian supplies to Gaza.


According to eyewitness reports and forensic evidence, many of these aid volunteers were shot at close range, including a 19-year-old American citizen killed by four bullets to the head and one to the chest fired from 18 inches away.


Israel immediately imprisoned eyewitnesses and hundreds of other aid participants, confiscated their cameras, laptops, and other possessions, and prevented them from speaking to the press for days. Among the incarcerated were decorated U.S. veterans and an 80-year-old former ambassador who had been deputy director of Reagan’s Cabinet Task Force on Terrorism.


When they finally emerged and were able to tell their stories, many described horrific scenes of Israeli commandos shooting people in the head, of those tending the injured being shot in the stomach, of people bleeding to death while flotilla participants waved white flags and pled for help.


They also described being beaten brutally by Israeli forces, again and again – including those on ships that, in the U.S. media’s judgment, experienced "no violence." A 64-year-old piano tuner from California, Paul Larudee, described hundreds of Israeli commandos boarding his ship. When he refused to cooperate with them, soldiers then beat him numerous times both on board the ship and after he was imprisoned on land.


Eventually he was taken by ambulance to an Israeli hospital. He wasn’t treated, however, and Larudee believes he was taken there because Israel didn’t want media to see his black eye, pronated joints, bruised jaw and body contusions.


Marine veteran Ken O’Keefe described similar beatings while in Israeli custody. In his case, the public was able to see his bloodied, battered face in video clips and still images – but only on the Internet, since American mainstream media failed to report on his press conference or to publish the many still photos of his injuries.


Other gruesome photos available to the American public only on the Internet are of Emily Henochowicz, a 21-year-old American student whose eye and eye socket were recently shattered by Israeli forces. She has since had her eyeball removed, three metal plates inserted in her face, and her jaw wired shut.


Henochowicz was not on the flotilla; she was taking part in a nonviolent demonstration against the Israeli assault when an Israeli soldier shot a high-velocity teargas canister into her face.


A Swedish citizen standing with Henochowicz said, "They clearly saw us. They clearly saw that we were internationals and it really looked as though they were trying to hit us. They fired many canisters at us in rapid succession. One landed on either side of Emily, then the third one hit her in the face."


Henochowicz is not the first to have been shot by such a canister.


Thirty-year-old Basem Ibrahim Abu Rahmeh died when an Israeli soldier shot one at him at close range while Abu Rahmeh participated in a demonstration against Israeli confiscation of Palestinian farmland. A video of this is also available on You Tube; U.S. networks have also chosen not to broadcast this.


Californian Tristan Anderson was shot in the head by a similar canister while he was taking photographs following another demonstration. Part of Anderson’s brain was removed and he was in a "minimally responsive state" for 6-7 months.


He is now in a wheelchair, has almost no movement in his left arm and leg, is blind in one eye, and his mental functioning is significantly reduced. Photos of the shooting are also available on the Internet.


Since at least 2006 Israeli forces have closed off Gaza to the outside world, essentially imprisoning 1.5 million men, women, and children, and denying them foodstuffs, medicines, and building materials, as documented by such agencies as Amnesty International, Oxfam, and Christian Aid, which said that Israel was using food and medicine as weapons.


One of the multitudinous victims of this illegal siege is five-year-old Taysir Al Burai, who suffers from an acute neurological disorder and requires round-the-clock care. According to the UK Guardian, he could be cured if Israel would allow him to leave Gaza, but to date his parents’ repeated requests have been denied.


Another victim is 7-month-old Mohammad Khader, whose swelling in the brain required specialized treatment unavailable in Gazan hospitals depleted by the Israeli siege. His distraught parents’ applications asking Israel to allow them to travel abroad were similarly denied. Their tiny son died a few days ago.


Such stories go on and on.


Thomas’s "outrageous" statement


Yet, the rage we see in the U.S. media is directed against none of this. People shot in the head, eyes and brain parts destroyed, the elderly beaten, small children and infants caused to suffer and die, parents to grieve – none of this has caused a hint of anger. In fact, most of it has been considered of too little importance even to report.


Instead, media reports are filled with outrage at "anti-Israel" words spoken by 89-year-old Helen Thomas.


In Thomas’s lifetime Israel has ethnically cleansed over a million people, replaced them with colonists from around the world, committed dozens of massacres, tortured thousands of people, killed and maimed untold numbers of children, mangled limbs, and committed outrages on women, old people, the weak, and the infirm.


It has assassinated people throughout the world, invaded numerous countries, spied on the U.S., killed and injured 200 American servicemen (the anniversary is this week), and tortured and imprisoned Americans. All while receiving more American money than any other country on earth.


For years, long before her recent words, Thomas has been the target of Israel’s vicious American volunteers, the Zionist blogosphere abounding with nasty slurs on her looks and her Lebanese ancestry, this latter also consistently emphasized by the media, despite her Kentucky birth and upbringing.


One of the reasons for the ferocious animosity toward her is the fact that Thomas is one of the very few mainstream reporters to challenge the neocon engendered lies that led the U.S. into wars that have caused massive death, destruction, and tragedy and to continue to expose ongoing policies of violence and cruelty.


As the same groups and individuals who pushed the US into attacking Iraq have in recent years been escalating their efforts to push the U.S. to now similarly decimate Iranians under the pretext that Iran might be developing nuclear weapons, Thomas’s questioning attempted to elicit from Obama the fact that Israel already posses nuclear weapons. While the rest of the press corps has conspired in the cover-up of this fact and others, Thomas worked to expose them.

Not surprisingly, the many people complicit in these manipulations, such as former Bush spokesperson Ari Fleischer, have led the charge against her.


It is useful to examine the video and context of Thomas’s allegedly "anti-Semitic" comment.


A man, apparently holding a camera right in her face, asks for her comments about Israel. She says, "Tell them to get the hell out of Palestine. Remember, these people are occupied. And it’s their land…" He interrupts her and asks where they should go. She responds, "They should go home. To Germany, Poland, America, and everywhere else."


While Thomas has since apologized for her hasty words and said many Israelis have the right to continue living where they are, the reality is that Israeli settlers did, indeed, come from elsewhere; they are, in fact, illegally occupying Palestinian land (a fact acknowledged even by the U.S. State Department); and international law does require that they leave.


Many commentators evince particular anger at Thomas’s inclusion of Germany and Poland as places to which Israeli colonists should return, suggesting that Hitler is still in control and waiting to pounce.


The happy fact is, however, that World War II and the Nazi Holocaust ended well over half a century ago. In Poland today there is a vibrant Jewish revival with a 10-foot tall Menorah being lit in the center of Warsaw during Hanukah, and Germany has become, according to the New York Times, "a country where Jews want to live." In fact, in recent years more Jews have chosen to immigrate to Germany than to Israel.


Thomas’s call for colonists to return to America (this destination was left out of many articles) is far from outrageous given that a great many West Bank settlers are from the U.S.


Overall, reporting on the incident has largely departed from the standard journalistic practice of quoting people from both sides of an issue. Quotes from Thomas supporters are missing, even though the YouTube page featuring the infamous video contains a large number of comments supporting her. In contrast, quotes from Thomas’s detractors, almost all of them Zionists, are ubiquitous, but generally fail to divulge the speakers’ frequent conflicts of interest.


For example, the Washington Post’s Howard Kurtz quotes Jeffrey Goldberg without mentioning that Goldberg is an Israeli citizen who served as a prison guard at an Israeli prison that held hundreds of Palestinians without charge, some killed in cold blood by the prison commander.


Mainstream media organizations do not seem to have investigated reports that the man who videotaped Thomas, Rabbi David Nesenoff, also made an offensive video featuring himself and another man impersonating a buffoonish Catholic priest and Mexican immigrant.


Similarly, news reports that a high school had disinvited Thomas as a graduation speaker almost never inform readers that many of the school’s parents and students wished Thomas to remain, even though this unreferenced group may represent a majority of the school. Members of this group have created a Facebook page, "Helen Thomas should have been our graduation speaker," that states:

  • "The purpose of this group is to quietly but firmly protest the ability of a small minority to impose its will on the larger group through engaging or threatening to engage in disruptive discourse. This group affirms a belief in reasonable discussion and feel that in this scenario, a clear minority was able to override a larger majority by distorting the issues and discussion."
Replacing Thomas at the upcoming graduation ceremony will be CBS’s Bob Schiefer, who has close family ties to George W. Bush and has rarely, if ever, challenged administration falsehoods that sent the nation to war and that keep it there still.


Regarding his reporting on Israel-Palestine, media watchdog Fairness and Accurate In Reporting (FAIR) issued an alert in 2006 objecting to Schiefer’s "shallow, dismissive coverage of complicated and tragic events."


It is not known who will take over Thomas’s front-row seat at White House briefings. Given the record of the current press corps, it is likely that Israel partisans are breathing a sign of relief.


One more obstacle to the Zionist juggernaut has just been removed.
 

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**** just keeps getting crazier.
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By JPOST.COM STAFF
06/07/2010 15:55






Israel must send Turkey a clear message that if Turkish warships are sent to accompany the next flotilla trying to break the embargo on Gaza, these will be considered acts of war by Israel , Uzi Dayan, former deputy Chief of General Staff, told Army Radio Monday morning.

"If the Turkish prime minister joins such a flotilla,” Dayan said, “we should make clear beforehand this would be an act of war, and we would not try to take over the ship he was on, but would sink it.”

“If Israel doesn't make this clear beforehand, the Turks will grow increasingly self-assured, and we may indeed find ourselves facing such a scenario, which could have been averted.”
 

petros

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I know Bear. I know.

Free speech is one thing but I'd really appreciate it if they only quoted sane people.

Media really needs a swift kick in the nuts and should take responsibility for the inciting more fear or hatred.