B.P.'s Gulf of Mexico Oil Spill Thread (it's all here).....

Liberalman

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Re: Did Bush neglect strict laws on oil drilling due to favouritism?

people looked the other way because of the black gold, Texas tea
 
Kreskin

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Re: Did Bush neglect strict laws on oil drilling due to favouritism?

I choose not to blame any politicians and put this squarely on the shoulders of BP. A company like that knows the responsibility they have and the consequences of a disaster.
 
Socrates the Greek

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Re: Did Bush neglect strict laws on oil drilling due to favouritism?

Are you inferring that GW would actually bend regulations to favour an oil company? Let's think that over. Members of the Bush family favouring big oil. Plausible.
 
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AnnaG

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Re: Did Bush neglect strict laws on oil drilling due to favouritism?

Well according to Kakato, he's developing a secret revolutionary way of reclaiming tailings, so maybe that can be used to clean up the mess that BP is failing to handle.
 
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Re: Did Bush neglect strict laws on oil drilling due to favouritism?

Kreskin said:
I choose not to blame any politicians and put this squarely on the shoulders of BP. A company like that knows the responsibility they have and the consequences of a disaster.
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BP is to blame and should be held financially accountable for ALL costs associated with this spill, however the US gov't owns a portion of the blame. The gov't, through its regulatory bodies should have made sure there adequate Emergency Response Plans in place for dealing with failures, and should have conducted inspections to ensure all the appropriate safety equipment was in place and operational.

What really blows me away though, is you have idiots like Rand Paul (among others) who is trying to politicize this and critiicizing Obama for his condemnation of BP: at the end of the day, absent gov't regulation and inspection, BP was left to act as they saw fit so who else is more to blame?
 
ironsides

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Re: Did Bush neglect strict laws on oil drilling due to favouritism?

Socrates the Greek said:
Was BP in Bushes back pocket?, for the Bush administration not to insure safe oil drilling. BP is on record not taking appropriate steps on safeguards to insure this would have not happened.



Later during the 2000 election, BP exerted significant influence over politics through its campaign contributions. That is not too surprising when you consider that in the late 1990s BP had acquired Amoco and Atlantic Richfield, two companies which had been players on the U.S. electoral scene and which had made political contributions. According to the Center for Responsive Politics, BP ranked fourth amongst oil and gas company contributors in the 2000 elections, with donations totaling $1.1 million. Two thirds of that amount went to the GOP
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BP paid into everyone's pocket.
BP employees donated at least $160,000 to congressional candidates and their parties so far this election cycle. When campaign donations from BP's lobbying corps of roughly three-dozen people and their firms' political action committees, or PACs, are added to BP employees' total, the political giving since January 2009 tops $1 million, according to an analysis by The Associated Press. The firms lobby for multiple clients, not just BP.

President Barack Obama's campaign was the top recipient of BP employees' money in the 2008 election: $71,000.

Asked about the donations, White House spokesman Ben LaBolt said Mr. Obama "didn't accept a dime from corporate PACs or federal lobbyists."
Will BP's D.C. Connections Help It Now? - CBS News

There will be plenty of time later to find out who or what is to blame, right now, lets just get the leak plugged up and the mess cleaned up. Those idiots who want to form a commission, for what, must be that they have no idea what to do.
 
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Re: Did Bush neglect strict laws on oil drilling due to favouritism?

wulfie68 said:
BP is to blame and should be held financially accountable for ALL costs associated with this spill, however the US gov't owns a portion of the blame. The gov't, through its regulatory bodies should have made sure there adequate Emergency Response Plans in place for dealing with failures, and should have conducted inspections to ensure all the appropriate safety equipment was in place and operational.

What really blows me away though, is you have idiots like Rand Paul (among others) who is trying to politicize this and critiicizing Obama for his condemnation of BP: at the end of the day, absent gov't regulation and inspection, BP was left to act as they saw fit so who else is more to blame?
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Someone kills another person. You see it happening but don't attempt to prevent it because your mind was occupied on something else quite important. Person dies. Blame you because the person died or blame the person who killed the other?
I think there's a little blame to hand to the gov't but how far can the gov't nanny its citizens and all the companies within its mandate?
 
TenPenny

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Re: Rigs operating in the Gulf of Mexico

We've supplied lots of replacement equipment to the Henry Goodrich, owned by Transocean, as well as lots of stuff to the Hibernia platforms, it's all pretty run-of-the-mill.
 
jjaycee98

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Re: Rigs operating in the Gulf of Mexico

TenPenny said:
We've supplied lots of replacement equipment to the Henry Goodrich, owned by Transocean, as well as lots of stuff to the Hibernia platforms, it's all pretty run-of-the-mill.
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So why do most people seem to think BP and their operation is the only thing going on down there. The comments all over the Internet seem to think this is "new" technology-no clue that it has been heavily used for over 50 years.

The map showing over 3800 rigs operating in the Gulf of Mexico in 2006 says that this can and is done safely in most cases.
 
TenPenny

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jjaycee98 said:
So why do most people seem to think BP and their operation is the only thing going on down there. The comments all over the Internet seem to think this is "new" technology-no clue that it has been heavily used for over 50 years.

The map showing over 3800 rigs operating in the Gulf of Mexico in 2006 says that this can and is done safely in most cases.
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Apparently, 'most people' don't have a clue what they are talking about. How many land-based oil wells operate in California? How about in the Los Angeles area? Do you see them on TV?
 
JLM

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Re: Rigs operating in the Gulf of Mexico

jjaycee98 said:
So why do most people seem to think BP and their operation is the only thing going on down there. The comments all over the Internet seem to think this is "new" technology-no clue that it has been heavily used for over 50 years.

The map showing over 3800 rigs operating in the Gulf of Mexico in 2006 says that this can and is done safely in most cases.
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"Most cases" don't cut it when the results can be so disastrous.
 
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