Tea Party Protests: 'Ni**er,' 'Fa**ot' Shouted At Members Of Congress

[ironsides]

Curiosity: Just one little correction, you do not have to belong to either party to vote in general elections, just cannot vote in a democratic or Republican primary unless someone is running as a Independent and is on the primary ballot as such. Other than that, good questions and answers.

 

[Curiosity]

Thanks Ironsides

I meant that when I first registered to vote in my precinct (I had just become a citizen and the last election was my "first".....I had to fill in a registration card
with the Clerk of the County in which I reside - two card choices only: Democrat
or Republican. I selected Republican and was restricted in my voting choices but when the General Election came up my ballot was fully eligible for cross party voting.... Sorry I still goof up on many of the correct names for things...

I have since realized I am a cross-party "voter" haha.... depending upon the issue - I am a fiscal Republican or Conservative but when it comes to many public issues I am Liberal or Democrat or Libertarian..... I have no doubt I will change
as I become more in tune with how things actually work. Also I place too much weight on candidates who can change very little unless the party is willing....

The last election was confusing at best....

 

[SirJosephPorter]

SJP, I understand that you believe your literary skills are vastly superior to everyone else, but you contradict yourself. Either he 'as much as' called them the names, or he actually did call them names. One or the other, not both.

I know, you'll respond with some comment about nitpicking or being pedantic, but if you're going to accuse someone of something, you have to be accurate in what you're accusing them of.

There is hardly any difference between 'as much as called them names' and 'called them names'. You are the one being pedantic. One may be 100%, the other may be 95%.

He did not utter those words himself, but he said that others were right in uttering those words, that those words were justified. I fail to see how that is different from calling the names himself.

 

[lone wolf]

Naw ... I vote you slandered

 

[SirJosephPorter]

SirJoseph

That is what makes me question you - I see you on other topics and you have a wide range of opinion and are up and ready for debate on other subjects but the
Conservative party in the U.S. seems to trigger a part of your personality which
made me "curious" thinking perhaps you had lived there and had a bad experience or something.

I did live in USA from 1971 to 1977. But I was a student there, I did not get involved in politics. I did however, watch the Nixon impeachment proceedings on television. I was living in Utah at that time, and by a strange coincidence, one Utah Representative (Utah has only four) was on the House Judiciary Committee.

He was a Democrat, Wayne Owens. He was youthful, energetic and very popular on the University of Utah campus. He was one of the main reason I watched the impeachment proceedings. Nixon's shenanigans (Tuesday massacre, 18 minute crucial gap in an important tape and many more) used to make the news every day and I got a real taste of US politics at that time.

But other than that, I really was not involved in politics.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Curiosity: Just one little correction, you do not have to belong to either party to vote in general elections, just cannot vote in a democratic or Republican primary unless someone is running as a Independent and is on the primary ballot as such. Other than that, good questions and answers.

I don't think that is right, ironsides. Some primaries are open primaries and anybody can vote in them, not just party members.

Do you remember Rush Limbaugh's 'Operation Chaos'?. In that he was telling Republicans to vote in the open Democratic primaries, vote for Hillary and thereby make life difficult for Obama.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Wrong.

Same Ol' blabber.

No substance. Just joey trolling.

Ran out of arguments, I see. That is what conservatives typically do here. When they have lost an argument, when they have nothing left to say, they resort to school yard tactics.

However, I must congratulate you for not resorting to name calling, personal abuse as many conservatives do here. You show remarkable self control, for a conservative.

 

[Curiosity]

Thanks for your reply SirJoseph

I appreciate you writing about your time spent in the U.S. at least you lived within the nation to have a first hand view other than what is reported on networks and the internet. Collecting what turns out to be the real truth often takes days of monitoring long after the "press" has become tired of their earlier "leading story" which is reported much too soon for valid publication far more than I like to think about.

About the first voter registration I had to make: I literally had to choose my representative party in order to receive a ballot for the Primary in California.
I questioned the County Clerk about this and was informed the Republican Party
wished to remain a singular identity on the ballot but I could "move back and forth when the General Election came up." I think the Republicans hoped to get a better head count by insistence on one ballot only - even for people like me who are cross-voters.

When the General Election ballots were mailed out later, I received mine as a Registered Republican but could vote across party lines. As it was my first as a voter I have no idea if that occurs each election - perhaps it does unless a person changes their affiliation. For now I'll leave it because after the last go around I don't feel much like getting involved for a while. I am very conservative regarding
fiscal spending and handling monies and both parties are at fault here pinning the
average working people with the debits far into the future.

My opinion of politics has gone down considerably, as it has of the media, and I wonder where honesty and sincerity decided to hop off the bus and leave the people who vote with their heart and intellect and devotion to a cause swinging in the dust. I think the public are kept around for one reason - to pay for the people who campaign for themselves, or their cause.

I am disappointed but continue to hope one day.....honor will prevail again among people.

 

[TenPenny]

I must congratulate you for not resorting to name calling, personal abuse as many conservatives do here. You show remarkable self control, for a conservative.

That's funny, I always get a good laugh with my morning coffee.

 

[Cliffy]

Thanks for your reply SirJoseph

I appreciate you writing about your time spent in the U.S. at least you lived within the nation to have a first hand view other than what is reported on networks and the internet. Collecting what turns out to be the real truth often takes days of monitoring long after the "press" has become tired of their earlier "leading story" which is reported much too soon for valid publication far more than I like to think about.

About the first voter registration I had to make: I literally had to choose my representative party in order to receive a ballot for the Primary in California.
I questioned the County Clerk about this and was informed the Republican Party
wished to remain a singular identity on the ballot but I could "move back and forth when the General Election came up." I think the Republicans hoped to get a better head count by insistence on one ballot only - even for people like me who are cross-voters.

When the General Election ballots were mailed out later, I received mine as a Registered Republican but could vote across party lines. As it was my first as a voter I have no idea if that occurs each election - perhaps it does unless a person changes their affiliation. For now I'll leave it because after the last go around I don't feel much like getting involved for a while. I am very conservative regarding
fiscal spending and handling monies and both parties are at fault here pinning the
average working people with the debits far into the future.

My opinion of politics has gone down considerably, as it has of the media, and I wonder where honesty and sincerity decided to hop off the bus and leave the people who vote with their heart and intellect and devotion to a cause swinging in the dust. I think the public are kept around for one reason - to pay for the people who campaign for themselves, or their cause.

I am disappointed but continue to hope one day.....honor will prevail again among people.

The chances of honesty or integrity from politicians or the media are pretty slim. I lived in hope that one day... but one cannot live on hope alone. One day I woke up and realized that there was none and that i was wasting my time. There are many positive things going on in the world that are affecting change for the better, but you won't find them in politics or media. I prefer to focus my energy on constructive activities.

 

[ironsides]

I don't think that is right, ironsides. Some primaries are open primaries and anybody can vote in them, not just party members.

Do you remember Rush Limbaugh's 'Operation Chaos'?. In that he was telling Republicans to vote in the open Democratic primaries, vote for Hillary and thereby make life difficult for Obama.

Primaries are run by political parties. The states, run the state primaries by what ever rules the parties set. In some states Republicans will allow Independents to vote in their primary, while in the same state the Democrats will not allow anyone but democrat to vote, or the other way around up to them.

 

[EagleSmack]

Ran out of arguments, I see. That is what conservatives typically do here. When they have lost an argument, when they have nothing left to say, they resort to school yard tactics.

However, I must congratulate you for not resorting to name calling, personal abuse as many conservatives do here. You show remarkable self control, for a conservative.

More blather.

You were proven wrong by your own words. I gave up when you said

"The Tea Party is not new" then following up with "The Tea Party is new" in the same post.

Mindless dribble.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

More blather.

You were proven wrong by your own words. I gave up when you said

"The Tea Party is not new" then following up with "The Tea Party is new" in the same post.

Mindless dribble.

I explained that, EagleSmack. The name is new, the members are the same right wing extremist Republican base. The bottle is new, the wine is the same stale wine. If you don't like my explanation, that is hardly my problem, is it?

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Primaries are run by political parties. The states, run the state primaries by what ever rules the parties set. In some states Republicans will allow Independents to vote in their primary, while in the same state the Democrats will not allow anyone but democrat to vote, or the other way around up to them.

That is my understanding. Some primaries are closed primaries where only the party members can vote. Some others are open to independents or to everybody, including members of the other party.

 

[Praxius]

Just to jump in here, and I'm sure it's probably been said already, but I think the most disgraceful thing of all of this Christian Militia / Tea Party garbage, is that the Republican Party isn't shunning and trying to quell the violence, rage, anger, racism, and to push people back into a more democratic process of debate..... instead, they're basically promoting it and egging it on.

Now if this sort of thing was done during the Bush era over what he was doing, they'd be branded Evil Do'ers and tossed away as terrorists/enemies of the state.

Instead, they're just "isolated incidences" and continually egged on with people such as Palin saying things like "Don't Retreat, Instead Reload" or something along those lines.

Pretty sad that this is supposed to be the country that "Leads the Free World"

No offense Eagle.

 

[EagleSmack]

I explained that, EagleSmack. The name is new, the members are the same right wing extremist Republican base. The bottle is new, the wine is the same stale wine. If you don't like my explanation, that is hardly my problem, is it?

Same Ol' Joey Troll. The Ol' Broken Record.

 

[EagleSmack]

Pretty sad that this is supposed to be the country that "Leads the Free World"

No offense Eagle.

None taken Prax. Are you around for awhile? or just decided to visit the old stomping grounds?

In reference to the Tea Party, if you read my other stuff the "threats of violence" are mostly whinning. The only person that I know that got a bullet through the window was the GOP Minority Whip and recently the Feds busted a lib for death threats.

But hey...what do I know.

 

[Praxius]

None taken Prax. Are you around for awhile? or just decided to visit the old stomping grounds?

Yeah I should be kicking around for some time...

 

[ironsides]

Thanks Ironsides

I meant that when I first registered to vote in my precinct (I had just become a citizen and the last election was my "first".....I had to fill in a registration card
with the Clerk of the County in which I reside - two card choices only: Democrat
or Republican. I selected Republican and was restricted in my voting choices but when the General Election came up my ballot was fully eligible for cross party voting.... Sorry I still goof up on many of the correct names for things...

I have since realized I am a cross-party "voter" haha.... depending upon the issue - I am a fiscal Republican or Conservative but when it comes to many public issues I am Liberal or Democrat or Libertarian..... I have no doubt I will change
as I become more in tune with how things actually work. Also I place too much weight on candidates who can change very little unless the party is willing....

The last election was confusing at best....

Between my wife and I, one is registered Republican and the other a Democrat. That way we get all the information and vote accordingly to the way we think. I think we all were confused by the way that election process unfolded.

 

[Curiosity]

Ironsides

Consider yourselves fortunate (you and your wife) - you have the desire to research both sides of issues - I was totally stumbling around the day I voted
but I hope to increase my knowledge before my next trial by smooth talkers!

I hope not all elections are going to be that impossible!