Tea Party Protests: 'Ni**er,' 'Fa**ot' Shouted At Members Of Congress

[SirJosephPorter]

"The Tea Party is new, it is still picking up steam. Give them time. They will peak. When they support only Republican candidates in the election, they will be exposed as the far right Republican base. Then it won't be a novelty any more, it will be just one more far right group (like Moral Majority or Christian Coalition)."

SirJosephPorter, in his previous re-incarnation must have been a confidential advisor (i.e. the Court Jester) to King George. Picture it:

"Don't worry about the rabble rousers in Boston, your Majesty! They will never be able to live without the sunshine of your face. Or without British tea".

Closer to the present he seems to forget that the Moral Majority and the Christian Coalition got rid of the peanut farmer and resulted in the Presidency of Ronald Reagan.

You mean the Reagan who started USA on the conservative tradition of borrow and spend, of racking up huge deficits? Yes, that worked out well for USA.

Anyway, where is Moral Majority today? It doesn’t exist. How about Christian Coalition? Totally ineffective. The same will happen to teabaggers. Teabaggers are the far right Republican base, Democrats don’t have anything to worry about from the teabaggers. No teabagger was going to vote Democratic anyway, probably never voted Democratic in his life.

in fact, overdependence upon teabaggers may even hurt Republicans in the election, if by then teabaggers are recognized for what they are, right wing extremists.

 

[YukonJack]

"No matter how you try to twist, you cannot get out of it. You called them nigg*r and f*g and that is all there is to it. You said they are what they were called"

And no matter how you twist it, you still have not proved that anyone, let alone I called them those names.

This is my last response to you on this subject.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

"No matter how you try to twist, you cannot get out of it. You called them nigg*r and f*g and that is all there is to it. You said they are what they were called"

And no matter how you twist it, you still have not proved that anyone, let alone I called them those names.

This is my last response to you on this subject.

This may be your last response, or you may post 100 more responses, it changes nothing. Let me recap.

You said that they are what they have been called. They were called nigg*r and f*g. Hence, you said that they are nigg*r and f*g. Simple logic.

 

[YukonJack]

TenPenny, in 1957 the United States had a quota on the number of immigrants from every country of the world, which was established sometimes in the 1920-30's.

When I was a seventeen year old kid, all by myself and knew little about the world, what little I did know was about America. Heck, even today, lots of Europeans, when they think about America, it's the United States they think about.

At any rate, most refugees from Hungary went to the States and filled that quota; I happened to be out of "luck". At that time I thought it was the end of the world, but I soon learned to love my "second" choice, became a citizen as soon as I could, got married here, raised my family, and in spite of the fact that I had a chance to move to the States (I actually lived and worked there for six years) I never had the desire to move there.

I am Canadian, but not a blind pseudo-patriot. To me being a Canadian does not mean that I have to be anti-American and deny undeniable facts.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

I remember reading that a teabagger confirmed that Barney Franks indeed was called ‘f*g’. I didn’t remember where I read it. Well, I was reading TownHall just now and was surprised to see it confirmed there. Town Hall is a far right website, largely infested by teabaggers, and I wouldn’t think they would say anything against Tea Party.

But here it is.

Only the Frank story is confirmed by any contemporaneous outside source. A Politico reporter claims to have heard the word. Such slurs are obviously despicable and were immediately condemned as such by leading Republicans.

This is the second independent confirmation. The one I read was by a teabagger, she said that she saw a man approach Franks and call him a ‘fagg*t’.

Mona Charen : Dems Lose Argument -- Win Dirty - Townhall.com

The spiting incidence (one Democratic representative was spat upon) was captured on video.

As for Cleaver's incident, it was captured on video. He passed a man who had cupped his hands and was shouting as Cleaver passed by. Some spittle seems to have sprayed. It could not have been pleasant, but it's a world away from being intentionally spat upon.

That is of course, TownHall’s interpretation of the incidence, they will try to show the teabaggers in the best light possible. But the point is, they do confirm that there is video evidence of the spitting incidence.

Only ‘nigg*r’ incidence was not confirmed independently. But Representative Lewis is a well respected, highly reputable member of the black community, he was active in civil rights movement in Selma, Alabama and I will believe him any day over the hate filled teabaggers. So does evidently all of the press (including FOX), the Republicans, and even some teabaggers (some of them apologized for the incidence).

 

[EagleSmack]

Tea Party is not new. The name may be new. But it is the same far right conservative Republican base. It is the same stale, spoiled wine in a new bottle.

Brand new and and the libs and Dems are flabbergasted at the development of the Tea Party and being on the other side of the yellow tape.

It upsets them greatly.

The Tea Party is new, it is still picking up steam. Give them time. They will peak. When they support only Republican candidates in the election, they will be exposed as the far right Republican base. Then it won't be a novelty any more, it will be just one more far right group (like Moral Majority or Christian Coalition).

"The Tea Party is not new" - Joey
"The Tea Party is new"- Joey

Both in the same post. You outdid yourself! :lol:

At one time the religious right juggernaut appeared unstoppable. For a while it looked like they may succeed in establishing a Fundamentalist Christian Theocracy in USA. But their wings are clipped, now it is just another extreme right wing group. The same thing will happen to the Tea Party.

YAAAAAWN.

Same Ol' Joey. Lots of blabber and no substance.

 

[Curiosity]

SirJoseph

You have an excellent intellect, I hope I can ask you a question which I often think of when I read threads in which you are an active participant....

Why is it so important for you to disparage the U.S.A. How does it affect you personally in any significant way to demean and insult the whole nation and the
people of the nation?

What is the purpose of your deeply felt resentment and why is it so important you
feel you need to get the message out? Have you made a life study of the development of the United States or an expert in the field of U.S. in some capacity?

What does the U.S. of A. represent to you in terms of the operation within the group of nations which have a fairly advanced economic, industrial, financial,
military, and other beneficial accessories?

As does Canada.

It appears to me you are fixated and I find it a waste when you no doubt have other interests to share and debate.

 

[DaSleeper]

Same Ol' Joey. Lots of blabber and no substance.

In proper King's English the term is "Blather":lol:

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Brand new and and the libs and Dems are flabbergasted at the development of the Tea Party and being on the other side of the yellow tape.

It upsets them greatly.



"The Tea Party is not new" - Joey
"The Tea Party is new"- Joey

Both in the same post. You outdid yourself! :lol:



YAAAAAWN.

Same Ol' Joey. Lots of blabber and no substance.

Only the name Tea Party is new, it is composed of the same far right crowd which form the Republican base. Some Republican politicians are already expressing concern. If Republican Party becomes too closely associated with Tea Party, that may hurt them in the election.

It could be the repeat of Goldwater all over again, when the Republican Party let itself be hijacked by the extremists.

 

[lone wolf]

Only the name Tea Party is new, it is composed of the same far right crowd which form the Republican base. Some Republican politicians are already expressing concern. If Republican Party becomes too closely associated with Tea Party, that may hurt them in the election.

It could be the repeat of Goldwater all over again, when the Republican Party let itself be hijacked by the extremists.

If the Tea Party as big a segment of Republicans and become an official party, they'll hurt Republicans anyhow. Vote-splitting isn't a uniquely Canadian phenomenon

 

[EagleSmack]

Only the name Tea Party is new, it is composed of the same far right crowd which form the Republican base. Some Republican politicians are already expressing concern. If Republican Party becomes too closely associated with Tea Party, that may hurt them in the election.

It could be the repeat of Goldwater all over again, when the Republican Party let itself be hijacked by the extremists.

YAAAAWN

Same Ol' joey, same ol' blabber...or blather for you UK types.

 

[EagleSmack]

If the Tea Party as big a segment of Republicans and become an official party, they'll hurt Republicans anyhow. Vote-splitting isn't a uniquely Canadian phenomenon

He'll move the goal post when that happens as it already is with Tea Party Candidates. He was always a little slow to the point to begin with.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

SirJoseph

You have an excellent intellect, I hope I can ask you a question which I often think of when I read threads in which you are an active participant....

Why is it so important for you to disparage the U.S.A. How does it affect you personally in any significant way to demean and insult the whole nation and the
people of the nation?

What is the purpose of your deeply felt resentment and why is it so important you
feel you need to get the message out? Have you made a life study of the development of the United States or an expert in the field of U.S. in some capacity?

What does the U.S. of A. represent to you in terms of the operation within the group of nations which have a fairly advanced economic, industrial, financial,
military, and other beneficial accessories?

As does Canada.

It appears to me you are fixated and I find it a waste when you no doubt have other interests to share and debate.

It is nothing against USA, Curiosity. I am a liberal and so tend to identify with the Democrats in USA (though they are too conservative for my tastes). That is why I supported the recent health care reform. I applauded Obama for showing uncommon courage for a politician and accomplishing something that has eluded past presidents (Democratic and Republican) for 100 years.

I have a problem with the Republican Party. And Tea Party is the extreme version of Republican Party, there is no room for moderates there. So it is easy for me to criticize Tea Party.

But it is not right to say that I trash USA, I trash Republicans, conservatives. I have nothing but respect for Clinton for getting rid of the deficit and managing the economy in a sound, responsible, typically liberal way.


And I do have other interests. You may have noticed, I debate on a wide variety of topics here, politics, religion, finance, science, literature (I am a sci fi fan), even mathematics.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

YAAAAWN

Same Ol' joey, same ol' blabber...or blather for you UK types.

It is called truth, for the Canadian types. You cannot get away from the fact that it is essentially the right wing base of the Republican Party which forms the Tea Party movement.

 

[lone wolf]

He'll move the goal post when that happens as it already is with Tea Party Candidates. He was always a little slow to the point to begin with.

It's all about effective trolling and post count anyhow.

That is known in technical jargon as exaggeration. It is an accepted and effective way of getting one's point across.

That about sums him up....

 

[TenPenny]

They were not called black and homosexual, YJ. They were called ‘nigg*r’ and ‘f*g’. You said they are what they were called. so you as much as said that they are nigg*r and ‘f*g.

No matter how you try to twist, you cannot get out of it. You called them nigg*r and f*g and that is all there is to it. You said they are what they were called.

SJP, I understand that you believe your literary skills are vastly superior to everyone else, but you contradict yourself. Either he 'as much as' called them the names, or he actually did call them names. One or the other, not both.

I know, you'll respond with some comment about nitpicking or being pedantic, but if you're going to accuse someone of something, you have to be accurate in what you're accusing them of.

 

[EagleSmack]

It is called truth, for the Canadian types. You cannot get away from the fact that it is essentially the right wing base of the Republican Party which forms the Tea Party movement.

Wrong.

Same Ol' blabber.

No substance. Just joey trolling.

 

[EagleSmack]

SJP, I understand that you believe your literary skills are vastly superior to everyone else, but you contradict yourself. Either he 'as much as' called them the names, or he actually did call them names. One or the other, not both.

I know, you'll respond with some comment about nitpicking or being pedantic, but if you're going to accuse someone of something, you have to be accurate in what you're accusing them of.

He'll outpost you.

He must have all the household chores done and has a bit of free time before he has to get dinner on.

 

[DaSleeper]

Wrong.

Same Ol' blabber.

No substance. Just joey trolling.

He's just a top water jigger...trying to catch lake Trout:roll:

 

[Curiosity]

It is nothing against USA, Curiosity. I am a liberal and so tend to identify with the Democrats in USA (though they are too conservative for my tastes). That is why I supported the recent health care reform. I applauded Obama for showing uncommon courage for a politician and accomplishing something that has eluded past presidents (Democratic and Republican) for 100 years.

I have a problem with the Republican Party. And Tea Party is the extreme version of Republican Party, there is no room for moderates there. So it is easy for me to criticize Tea Party.

But it is not right to say that I trash USA, I trash Republicans, conservatives. I have nothing but respect for Clinton for getting rid of the deficit and managing the economy in a sound, responsible, typically liberal way.


And I do have other interests. You may have noticed, I debate on a wide variety of topics here, politics, religion, finance, science, literature (I am a sci fi fan), even mathematics.

SirJoseph

That is what makes me question you - I see you on other topics and you have a wide range of opinion and are up and ready for debate on other subjects but the
Conservative party in the U.S. seems to trigger a part of your personality which
made me "curious" thinking perhaps you had lived there and had a bad experience or something.

It's a nosey question and yet I couldn't resist asking it - some people have had terrible experiences with the U.S. and I wondered if you had experienced some too.

I have had to back off from being "this or that" because the choices are far too limited in "party affiliation" even though you must sign on to one or the other in order to vote - but I am all over the spectrum of preferences and were I limited to voting strictly party affiliation - now that would send me packing. Neither of the recognized parties are 100% perfect in my eyes nor of many others' eyes.

Thanks for your response.