Two articles on Trudeau' real legacy.

Bar Sinister

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Damn - still haven't figured out how to quote from the middle of a post. Would someone help me with this otherwise I'll do what Sir Joseph Porter does and post multiple times.
 

countryboy

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Damn - still haven't figured out how to quote from the middle of a post. Would someone help me with this otherwise I'll do what Sir Joseph Porter does and post multiple times.

Hey Bar, do you mean you want to select a portion of a post and use that as a quote? Let me know...I'll stand by...I think I can help.
 

countryboy

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Damn - still haven't figured out how to quote from the middle of a post. Would someone help me with this otherwise I'll do what Sir Joseph Porter does and post multiple times.

Oops, just noticed the time of your post. OK, for the record, if you wish to quote a "piece" of a post (hope I'm right on that assumption), first hit "quote this."

When the window pops up, just highlight that part(s) that you don't want to appear in the quote. Hit the "delete" button and they should go away. When you have the quote where you want it, just go and type your post...after the [/quote] of course.

By the way, it's likely not news, but I've found that if you want things to go more smoothly when you're removing some of this stuff up against either the beginning or ending [quotes], just click between the word and the [ or ], and hit your space bar. That separates things and makes it easier to highlight and remove text without messing up the
pieces.

Hope that's helpful but if I missed the mark, just let me know...Cheers.

Here's an example...I'll quote below from the middle of your post:

Would someone help me with this otherwise I'll do

The whole key is to simply keep the desired text to be quoted between the intro. [quote Bar Sinister;1234362] and the end [/qote] and then it will all appear in the quote box. I had to modify the bracketed sections in this paragraph so they would appear as typed text...if they were shown in their original form, they would automatically appear as a quote box with the words "and the end" in the quote.

Jeez, I've probably confused you (and me) with this long-winded explanation, but I hope it helps!
 

CDNBear

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I have never considered Mulroney a conservative, and he sure didn't work hard to reduce the deficit, but I wonder if he could have if he tried. I remember when Joke Lark beat Turdeau and gave us a short hiatus of (red) Tory rule. As a deficit reduction strategy he increased gasoline taxes, quite a bit I might add. I know, I was pumping gas at the time. Joe fell on that budget and the writ was dropped. Pierre vehemently proclaimed that he would never, ever, raise taxes like that. Well, guess what? within months gas had gone from around $.60/gal (after the LIberals originally dropped the tax) to over $1/gal. Since the pump price only went to $.999, we has to halve the pump price and charge double what total read. But then we went metric and that made things simpler :lol:.

Anyway, that being said, Trudeau got the ball rolling on socialism. That is like rolling a small snowball down a big hill. By the time it reached Mulroney it would have taken a Herculean effort to stop it. The problem with Socialism is that it rewards sloth and makes a majority beholden to the government. Whether it comes incrimentally or as a revolution matters little, except that if it starts quickly it can be nipped in the bud early on if the political will exists. But ask anyone who has come from a failed socialist state what a world of hurt came with the demise of long tem collectivism. We cannot stop it politically now, and it is a monster of a beast to feed. Over 50% of taxpayers work either directly or indirectly for government. Many more rely on government just to exist. Though it is a major problem worldwide to varying extents, I blame Trudeau for bringing it to us.
Wow, well said.

Peace is easy, freedom and liberty require hard work and vigilance, but both come at a cost.
You're just a founatin of wisdom today!!

He allso had classy women who had a crush on him.
That's no classy lady, that Barbara Striesand. A meglomanical bitch! Oh wait, birds of a feather and all that...:lol:

It's kind of funny that Gliberal fans are adamant that Cons are no good whatsoever and Cons think the same is true about Gliberals, yet each faction have their good side and their bad side. It's like saying your right hand is no good and your left hand is nothing but good; kind of stupid in a way.
I think Turdeau could have done worse, but as I said before, he was definitely not the best. I think King and Pearson were better.
Pearson for me, funny how I'm pegged a Conservative and my favourite PM is a Liberal, lol.

Thanks for that last bit.
My pleasure, it's not often I find an opposing voice that uses reason, rational and critical thought, it's kind of refreshing.
I should know something; I taught this crap for more than 30 years.
Go figure, and dispite that I still think the same way of you, lol.

Damn - still haven't figured out how to quote from the middle of a post. Would someone help me with this otherwise I'll do what Sir Joseph Porter does and post multiple times.
Please don't post like SJP.
 

CDNBear

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Nope, nothing there about Trudeau and our Nation's flag...

1965 Jan 28Queen Elizabeth signs the flag proclamation (to become effective Feb 15) at 5:00 p.m. G.M.T. in the presence of P.M. Pearson.

1965 Feb 15
Maple Leaf Flag becomes the national flag and is raised across the county. It is raised on a special flag pole erected just to the east of the Peace Tower at noon. It was not raised on the Peace Tower itself at this time, for, while the Governor General (Vanier) was present, his flag flew there.
Nope, nothing there about Trudeau creating Canada's flag, but I did find these scary little tid bits...

he felt the NDP could not achieve power
That's a very troubling statement, and one I believe to be true. He was power hungry and quite righly so, felt the best way to grasp power, was to back burner his actual political stripe and join the Liberals, giving him a better chance at taking power and putting those socialist policies to work.

Trudeau expressed doubts about the centralizing policies of Canada's socialists (he favoured a more decentralized approach)
Yet he did the exact opposite. :lol:
 

Dixie Cup

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As a kid, I remember the flag debate and wanted it to be blue stripes instead of red - to represent Canada, sea to sea but was disappointed the red was chosen instead. I'm over the disappointment now tho' :)
 

YukonJack

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"As a kid, I remember the flag debate and wanted it to be blue stripes instead of red - to represent Canada, sea to sea but was disappointed the red was chosen instead. I'm over the disappointment now tho'"

I agree about the red stripes.

And I always wondered why those in power at the time chose a RED Maple Leaf?

A red maple leaf is a DEAD maple leaf, with the exception of a small number of red maples.

Was a Canada, symbolized by a dead maple leaf the message they tried to convey to the rest of the world?
 

AnnaG

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As a kid, I remember the flag debate and wanted it to be blue stripes instead of red - to represent Canada, sea to sea but was disappointed the red was chosen instead. I'm over the disappointment now tho' :)
I think blue for the seas, yellow for the grains, greens for the forests, etc. should have been included, too. Our present flag is just plain boring.
 

JLM

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"Pearson for me, funny how I'm pegged a Conservative and my favourite PM is a Liberal, lol."

That sh*t happens. Apparently I'm a Conservative too, although I never realized it until I was told what I am in the past day or so. And that didn't come out of the Charter of Rights either.