Liberal phobia and the cause….
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Sorry Soc, but we are animals with giant egos who think we are more important than all other living things, which has lead us to crap in our own nest.
Nobody is going here wrong way on a one way street, JLM. If lowering the minimum wage is so beneficial to the poor, so beneficial to the economy, then why didn’t the poor prosper under Republican rule of 12 years? Why didn’t the economy prosper mightily?
Republicans did not increase minimum wage for 12 years, they froze it. Considering the inflation for 12 years, they in effect lowered it substantially. Why didn’t then Utopia appear in USA? Why the worst economic meltdown since depression?
If minimum wage is the evil that plagues the society, then we should invariably get undreamed of economic prosperity under conservatives. Why then does economy invariably tank under conservatives?
Incidentally how is lowering the minimum wage is any different from abolishing it? As prices go on increasing you want to lower the minimum wage. In Ontario it is currently around 10 $ an hour. If you lower it slowly every year and make it 1 $ per hour in 10 years time how is that different form abolishing it? Then why do you and other conservatives insist that they are not advocating abolition of minimum wage? That is precisely what you are advocating.
The reason prices wouldn't drop is because all those places you like "investing heavily" in, have more concern for profit than they have for people.
Sorry Anna, but I know of no business that is not in it for "profits".. And to be honest, the more the better.. So anyone who can lower the cost of anything, including wages, would happily jump on the bandwagon..
I and a friend ran our own business for 13 years profitably, but we never once put our interests of profit over the interests of people. I am sure we weren't the only ones, either.
Debating Minimum wage is like discussing the Death Penalty, Abortion or Gay marriage..
Both sides are heavily entrenched and have views that will not change..
Both sides are heavily entrenched and have views that will not change..
Did you run in the red those 13 years ?
How many employees did you have ?
Where did you find profit.. It had to come at some expense ?
Most very small companies don't require it.. Smart big companies stay away from it..
Minimum wage was brought in for a reason..
Minimum wage was brought in for a reason..
Nope. The last year we were open it looked like we would be going to dip into the red, so we closed. Neither of us were willing to take a loss.
At one time we had 3. And we paid them more than minimum wage.
Customers. But as I said, we did not value profits over people. Our code was that the customer is always right and that if we had no customers, we'd have no business.
Generalizing again I see. Economies have "tanked" under Liberal or like rule as well. There are what are called economic cycles which have highs and lows, and are as inevitable as the sun rise, just not as predictable. Perhaps you lived through a couple while Trudeau was in power, but I don't doubt you will blame that on that US. The chances that a two term leader will be in power during one of these downturns is quite high regardless of their political stripe. How they handle it though can make quite a difference. The spending which created the deficit now blamed on Harper came at the behest of the opposition parties.
By the way, I know of no Harper "acolytes" besides Laureen and the kids, certainly none like Trudeau had. Harper is mostly tolerated, (a selective thing with liberals) and considered the best choice given who we have to choose from.
