Women's Hockey Team Booz-Up

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I, as most others on this board, was proud of the women's gold-medal vicory. However, there are at least six reasons why it was patently stupid of the leadership of the women's hockey team to have allowed that form of on-ice post-game celebration.
1. There is an Olympic code that in its breach could lead to disquailification. Others have been disqualified for behaviour disrespectful of the Games.
2. Women's hockey is on the cusp of losing its status as an Olympic sport- as did women's ski jumping- because of lack of competition. This result would be regretable if poor behaviour gave women's hockey's detractors ammunition.
3. To convince women in other nations to participate in hockey, the sport has to be seen as a legitimate activity for women. Emulating testosterone-dumbed-down teenage boys does not boost the sport's international image.
4. It is bad form to rub the loss in your opponents' faces. It makes those who do appear boorish.
5. Surely women's hockey is more than an attempt at a weak imitation of a male-dominated sport.
6. It's bad karma!
 
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talloola

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Formula One has their champagne on the podium...

that's right, it's a bit of a ritual too, part of the
presentation of first place, but I don't they they stay
around that area, and start up a drinking party, I'm sure
they leave that area and have their private party in a
private place.
 

JLM

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"There are many doctors who think that one drink a day (red wine or something similar) is good for you. "- yep I used to do that, drink a glass of red wine a day. One day I was telling my doctor about it, thinking it would meet with his approval- he just smiled and said "yep and drinking Welsh's grape juice will give you exactly the same benefit"
Sorry to blow a hole in that argument, S.J.
 

talloola

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Yeah, the mistake they made was bringing it all back out onto the ice, not the right place, and had they stayed in
the dressing room, none of this would have even started,
it's a waste of time, and they put themselves in a position that caught the attention of the wrong people.

I'm looking forward to seeing the figure skaters coming
on the ice with their beers and cigars, that would be a
site for sore eyes.

lol
 

CDNBear

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I can't even be bothered to reply directly to the bulk of the posts in this thread, they border on absurd.

To those of you using commonsense and level headed reason, congrats, you're leaps and bounds a head of the chattering class that see the Womens Hockey team in a bad light.

That said, for those that just don't get it, they were not in public. They were in a closed to the public arena. You required security passes to be in the arena at that time. They had been celebrating in their locker room, which evidently, and as anyone who has been in a locker room in an arena of that size will know, is not the Ritz Carlton.

Given that, and that very real fact that it was teaming with reporters, friends and staff. They sought o get out and get a little space.

THEY WERE NOT partying in a public venue!!!

This can't be made anymore clear, and if you fail to grasp that at this point, I feel it futile to discuss the matter with you further.

Was it a poor choice? IMHO, no. Had they known the IOC and the morons of the world would have reacted in such a juvenile and childish way? Yes, I believe they would have opted to stay in their locker room with the teaming masses and suffered the small inconveniences of it.

Should there be such an up roar?

ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!

Some of you, including the IOC need to get a life or stop being such a "Eroweenie" or "Euroweenie" wannabe.

And again, if you take such offence to underage drinking, I suggest you avoid Europe altogether! Where a sip or two or three of a beer, is a stage the majority of 5 years olds have passed,
 
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wulfie68

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Any other country would have been happier than a pig in doodoo.(look at Finland and their bronze) The yanks are just too arrogant.

Like every hockey fan the country won't be massively disappointed if Team Canada loses to the US in the mern's gold medal game...

Athletes play to win. At that level they go into every game thinking they can, or they don't get there, and when they lose its a blow. Yeah you can shake the other person's hand and try to put on a good front but you still feel like you failed. With the Women's Hockey teams its a very close and bitter rivalry between Canada and the US... and its not like the men where many of them play with their opponents and they can say " so-and-so is/was my teammate and he's a good guy so I can feel good for him, even though it sucks to lose".

As for the celebration, I can see some people shaking their heads at the assumption the girls were all lighting up from the way its been reported, but this is still a farce. Hell if the girls did it in a nightclub in downtown Vancouver the media would still be there in their faces about it. They're young, they're on top of thew world, they're not hurting anyone or breaking any laws (oh, excuse me, a stupid law that says an 18 year old is legally responsible for everything else in life, including choosing the freaking gov't, but not mature enough to handle a beer).
 

CDNBear

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Like every hockey fan the country won't be massively disappointed if Team Canada loses to the US in the mern's gold medal game...

Athletes play to win. At that level they go into every game thinking they can, or they don't get there, and when they lose its a blow. Yeah you can shake the other person's hand and try to put on a good front but you still feel like you failed. With the Women's Hockey teams its a very close and bitter rivalry between Canada and the US... and its not like the men where many of them play with their opponents and they can say " so-and-so is/was my teammate and he's a good guy so I can feel good for him, even though it sucks to lose".

As for the celebration, I can see some people shaking their heads at the assumption the girls were all lighting up from the way its been reported, but this is still a farce. Hell if the girls did it in a nightclub in downtown Vancouver the media would still be there in their faces about it. They're young, they're on top of thew world, they're not hurting anyone or breaking any laws (oh, excuse me, a stupid law that says an 18 year old is legally responsible for everything else in life, including choosing the freaking gov't, but not mature enough to handle a beer).
Well said wulfie
 

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I can't even be bothered to reply directly to the bulk of the posts in this thread, they border on absurd.

To those of you using commonsense and level headed reason, congrats, you're leaps and bounds a head of the chattering class that see the Womens Hockey team in a bad light.

That said, for those that just don't get it, they were not in public. They were in a closed to the public arena. You required security passes to be in the arena at that time. They had been celebrating in their locker room, which evidently, and as anyone who has been in a locker room in an arena of that size will know, is not the Ritz Carlton.

Given that, and that very real fact that it was teaming with reporters, friends and staff. They sought o get out and get a little space.

THEY WERE NOT partying in a public venue!!!

This can't be made anymore clear, and if you fail to grasp that at this point, I feel it futile to discuss the matter with you further.

Was it a poor choice? IMHO, no. Had they known the IOC and the morons of the world would have reacted in such a juvenile and childish way? Yes, I believe they would have opted to stay in their locker room with the teaming masses and suffered the small inconveniences of it.

Should there be such an up roar?

ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!

Some of you, including the IOC need to get a life or stop being such a "Eroweenie" or "Euroweenie" wannabe.

And again, if you take such offence to underage drinking, I suggest you avoid Europe altogether! Where a sip or two or three of a beer, is a stage the majority of 5 years olds have passed,

I agree 100%. However I'm sure your comments will fall on deaf ears of some of the prudes here.
 

mt_pockets1000

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Celebrations aside, the Canadian women's hockey team are the most beautiful, prettiest and sexiest team out there on the ice. You ladies rock my puck! Thanks for bringing home the gold. I'm having a beer and cigar in your honor.
 

earth_as_one

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The police have no plans to investigate. Case closed...

Everyone including gold medal athletes, have a right to privacy. The Media should respect this. Instead they exploit people and violate their privacy.
 

#juan

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I think this article says it best:



Members of Canada's women's hockey team have come under fire in some quarters for celebrating on the ice Thursday with drinks and a cigar after defeating the U.S. in the gold medal final. The Canadian Olympic Committee even apologized to anyone who might have been offended. But is an apology even necessary?

Photograph by: Jean Levac, Canwest News Service, Vancouver Sun




Call it a tempest in a beer cup. Or the dumbest story of the day. Take your pick.
It started when a reporter went to an International Olympic Committee official and reported that, shock and horror, the Canadian women's hockey team were celebrating their gold medal victory by drinking beer and champagne and passing around a cigar while still in their uniforms in the ice rink in full view of some photographers.
One of those team members was underage. Marie-Philip Poulin is the youngest member of the Canadian team, and, coincidentally, one of the biggest heroes. She just finished scoring the winning goal, both of them, in fact, all of the offence needed in the 2-0 victory over the U.S.
She doesn't turn 19, the legal drinking age in B.C., until later next month.
The IOC official said "tut tut" or words to that effect. If true, it's not the kind of behaviour we expect from Olympians, he said. We'll look into it.
Then out of an abundance of caution, the Canadian Olympic Committee apologized to anyone who was offended by the celebration and said the women should have done their partying in the dressing room.
It's hard to know what part of this is more ridiculous. First, no one said anything when the pride of Russell, Man., Jon Montgomery walked through the streets of Whistler drinking from a pitcher of beer after winning a gold medal for Canada in skeleton. Nor should they have.
One of the things we have enjoyed most about these Olympics is not just watching Canadians athletes win, but sharing in their joy as they celebrate their victories.
So our women had nothing to apologize for.
Sure, there are serious issues around the public consumption of alcohol and underage drinking.
Vancouver police have spent a busy two weeks pouring out liquor and issuing tickets to people caught enjoying a drink while joining in the unprecedented street party that has been going on ever since the Games began. They've closed downtown liquor stores early to keep a lid on public drunkenness.
Moreover, this story came out on the same morning that the provincial government issued a press release announcing the start of the B.C. Liquor stores annual fundraising campaign for Dry Grad, the worthwhile effort to keep teenagers from poisoning themselves with booze as part of their ritualized exit from high school.
So go ahead and ask: What kind of example are these women setting for Canada's youth? I hope that sounds as ridiculous as it is. It's hard to imagine better role models than the women who made us all so proud Thursday night.
Yes, they were getting high in public. Over the moon in fact, as they had every right to be after thrilling Canadians and realizing their own dream of becoming Olympic champions.
So they have nothing for which to apologize and plenty to celebrate. While the Olympics is all about overcoming adversity, women hockey players have an even steeper hill to climb than most of our athletes.
On the day they finally won, they had to answer questions raised by IOC president Jacques Rogge and some commentators about whether their sport even deserved to be part of these Games.
Is it too easy to win hockey gold?
Just ask the American women, who won the last two world championships and did everything Thursday except score goals; just ask them how hard it is to get a chance to celebrate, with or without beer and champagne, at the Olympics.
And it's not just the lack of respect. Unlike the men who play hockey, women don't have a lucrative professional career to go back to when the Olympics are over.
So the Canadians got to celebrate, with a couple of brews, while the Americans wept. Beer on ice. It's the hoser way. No apologies necessary.
cmcinnes@vancouversun.com
 

JLM

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I agree 100%. However I'm sure your comments will fall on deaf ears of some of the prudes here.

Yes we simply can not stand for this terrible smoking where teen age girls could see it give them the wrong ideas and ruin their health..............:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

White Owl no doubt will be making a fortune off of this terrible event........... :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
 

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The lady in question probably didn't even know she was underage.....by a couple of weeks, fer cryin' out loud!!!!:roll::roll: You see, she IS of legal age in her home province of Quebec.......where the legal age is merely a suggestion anyway.... :)

You really do need to get out more.......

I was truely happy the Captain's statement was more 'Kiss My arse" than contrite.