Time To Kick The USA When It's Down, End Hyphenated Americanism

[Cliffy]

There is much contention as to who and when America was first discovered. One
camp (the one I'm in) believes America has been discovered in successive waves
from several directions repeatedly.

The more we learn about the history of early America, the more we'll learn just how
little we know now, and how amazing that early history really was.

All the research I did for my Ghost Peoples book lead to that conclusion. Remains from African, European, Asian, Australian and Polynesian ancestors have been found in various parts of the Americas going back before the last Ice Age..

It is too bad we don't spend the time and money Egypt does on our history. On Sunday I am going to a working dig at Lemon Creek in the Slocan Valley. They have found a very large native village site that out dates anything found to date in western Canada. This village site is larger and older than the one I was caretaker of in '89 - 80 to a few hundred pit house sites. I'm stoked. I'm hoping to get new information to add to my book on the Sinixt people.

 

[lone wolf]

How else can one explain similarities between Asian and North American cultures?

 

[Cliffy]

How else can one explain similarities between Asian and North American cultures?

That is in the west. In the east their cultures were much closer to European. Their stone tools were more sophisticated but similar to early Europeans. DNA of Inuit people in the east are closer to Siberian than Alaskan Eskimos. Kennewick Man, a 9000 year old skull found in Washington State is thought to have originated in Europe or India.

 

[taxslave]

Columbus was a piss poor sailor. And our biggest mistake was permitting his crew in with out proper immigration papers.

 

[AnnaG]

That is in the west. In the east their cultures were much closer to European. Their stone tools were more sophisticated but similar to early Europeans. DNA of Inuit people in the east are closer to Siberian than Alaskan Eskimos. Kennewick Man, a 9000 year old skull found in Washington State is thought to have originated in Europe or India.

Right on the money, honey.
People should read Adovasio's "The First Americans". It's an enlightening bit of anthro.

 

[Cliffy]

Right on the money, honey.
People should read Adovasio's "The First Americans". It's an enlightening bit of anthro.

I'll look it up. What is the publishing date? Have you read 1491? Pretty up to date stuff in there.

 

[AnnaG]

hhmmm. brb. I'll go see.
June 2003 Th3e full title is "The First Americans: In Pursuit Of Archaeology's Greatest Mystery"
Yes, I read "1491". It's a bit similar to "The First Americans", in that it points out errors in customary thought about peoples of North America.
I read Adovasio's book after it, so I guess that's why I didn't think of it.

 

[gopher]

Columbus discovered America?

LOL! That's like someone seeing your home for the first time, barging into it, and claiming to have discovered it all of a sudden.

 

[darkbeaver]

RaceandHistory.com - BLACK CIVILIZATIONS OF ANCIENT AMERICA

Every surviving race of men has been in the Americas at one time or another and some that no longer exist.

 

[ironsides]

Sure looks like African's were here also.

 

[YukonJack]

Three things indicate a small mind:

1. Hang up on minor semantics. Such as what's "American".
2. Schadenfraude. Rejoicing in temporary misfortunes of others.
3. Re-write history. With "spoken history", which is not worth the paper it's written on.

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

Wrong, Columbus discovered the Bahamas (named it San Salvador), ., there was no America back then.

Excellent point. Columbus (1451-1506) died one year before the word America was written on a map. But the English language gives him this expression. The Vikings get nothing because they had no long term impact on the world.

It is not a scientific fact Columbus discovered America, Columbus believed he was in India or islands off it. Columbus is given credit for this discovery after his death. And to many Canadians there is no America today.

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

What are you on about????

The Americans being called Americans???

We are too, but so are they....I mean the nation is the United States of America.........what would you have them call themselves........Statese???Unitarians??????

They can call themselves Americans if they like....I take no offense.....

Canadians like to emphatically say, we are not Americans, and no one mentions hyphenated Latin Americans or South Americans here. The USA America is the only one we are concerned about.

It is not about being offended, or maybe it is. When something is confusing, as this can be, it requires more discussion than it gets. Why in most encyclopedias they give the entry "America" only a few lines. A huge discovery that changed the world rarely gets aired much in the media. Because to most, the issue is settled.

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

Three things indicate a small mind:

1. Hang up on minor semantics. Such as what's "American".
2. Schadenfraude. Rejoicing in temporary misfortunes of others.
3. Re-write history. With "spoken history", which is not worth the paper it's written on.

Semantics are a minor thing? Perhaps, being hung up on words I think is quite anal or English if you like. So are they bands, clans, tribes or nations? First or founding? Fussing about words is a big thing nowadays. Language is culture.

I don't think anyone should get credit for anything if they don't deserve it. Rewrite to me means to change the facts, yet Columbus is declared to be the first, but you can debate whether he "discovered" America. First and discovery are different words that mean different things.

 

[ironsides]

Excellent point. Columbus (1451-1506) died one year before the word America was written on a map. But the English language gives him this expression. The Vikings get nothing because they had no long term impact on the world.

It is not a scientific fact Columbus discovered America, Columbus believed he was in India or islands off it. Columbus is given credit for this discovery after his death. And to many Canadians there is no America today.

Ever wonder how this world would be today if one of the Viking colonies had survived?


Columbus was more like "wrong way Corrigan" in 1938 who thought he was flying to Long Beach California, and ended up in Ireland.

 

[AnnaG]

Nope. I have wondered what things would be like if aboriginals had been the dominant population and not succumbed to paleface nonsense, though. lol

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

Ever wonder how this world would be today if one of the Viking colonies had survived?


Columbus was more like "wrong way Corrigan" in 1938 who thought he was flying to Long Beach California, and ended up in Ireland.

The "Vikings" were basically Norse famers, they were the terror of Europe, they made it all the way to Constantinople. But in America, the New World, Canada (what do you call a land before it had a name in its entirely?) they were defeated by poorly armed Indians. We've sure built up these Norse to levels they hardly deserve with one minor hamlet.

 

[EagleSmack]

KICK THIS BOYEEEEE!

What are you thinking? Because we have a crappy economy people will band together and make us stop calling ourselves Americans?

:lol:

That is the way we roll baby!

 

[EagleSmack]

The "Vikings" were basically Norse famers, they were the terror of Europe, they made it all the way to Constantinople. But in America, the New World, Canada (what do you call a land before it had a name in its entirely?) they were defeated by poorly armed Indians. We've sure built up these Norse to levels they hardly deserve with one minor hamlet.

Norse farmers? Are you kidding? The Vikings dominated Europe for a time...especially England.

Do tell of the great battles between the First Nations, or Native Americans in which the later named Indians defeated the Vikings.

 

[Cannuck]

Just curious, what word is used to refer to people form the United Arab Emirates?

Emirati


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emirati_people