Goodbye Conservatives and Hello Coalition, it's about time

Adriatik

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No, dividing the country is not needed now, nor is losing the confidence of the House. That is why this move by the Opposition is so clearly unnecessary......

Take a deep breath and look at the update. First of all, keep in mind it was a simple update........not a budget, which would be due in February. An update......

Now, what was so offensive in the update? As I see it, only one thing was offensive......removal of the right to strike is always offensive.......Otherwise?

Well, he didn't head immediately for deficit........as I remember, deficit spending was an issue in the campaign, which the CPC won by promising not to run one....as did Dion and Layton. Remember, our economy grew last quarter, our unemployment rate is low.........

But, Harper did not ignore the fact that there is a world-wide economic downturn. He doubled infrastructure spending, he moved to garauntee mortgages and pensions, and to lower interest rates. And he warned that further spending might be necessary, taking us to a small deficit, which might appear in the budget.

He was waiting for the new President in the USA to take office.......stimulus needs to be handled in concert with the Yanks in our integrated society.....especially in the auto sector.

All this is good. Prudent. Cautious. Good Government.

Don't kid yourself. The reason the poop hit the impeller is simple: All three opposition parties were outraged that Harper would end all subsidies to parties. They ignored the fact that the largest subsidy cut went to......the Conservative Party. This Act cost the Conservatives more money than anyone else.....and pulling the Political Parties....all of them....off the public teat was the right thing to do, even if done for the wrong reason.

So, if you don't like it, write the NDP a cheque.....I'm writing one for the Conservatives.

As far as I'm concerned, Dion, and Layton have lost their minds.......



If dividing the country is not needed, then why is Harper doing it since the beginning of the week?

I don't need a deep breath.

What outrages me is that a minority government thinks it can act as a majority and push its partisan agenda. Even though you may say so, we cannot afford to wait until January for economic stimuli. Yes we will need to work with the US but getting a head start will be necessary. Some industries just cannot wait until then. Jobs are going to disappear any week now. We can still work with the US once Obama gets into the picture. To tell you the truth, Obama will feel more inspired to work with a group of people with different ideologies than working with a party that loses the confidence of the house not even 2 months after the election.

All members of the opposition have the right to be outraged at the proposed public funding cuts because the Conservatives were deliberately trying to put their opponents out of business. This agenda could have waited until the end of the economic crisis or even until the Tories got a majority. Did they seriously think this was going to fly? Come on..

When you have a minority government, you cannot deliberately propose bills without compromising with the opposition.

He has lost the confidence of the House and is starting to lose the little confidence he had of Canadians. His speech was short and repeated what was debated in parliament the past week. No proposed plans, no pledge to work with the opposition, nothing. Just lies, lies, and more lies.

I already wrote the NDP a cheque and voted for them, it seems my donation and vote is paying off.

Harper is the one who has lost his mind, a long time ago.... He looked like a psycho tonight on TV with his stiff posture and shaky voice.
 

Kreskin

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I think Harper will get a reprieve from the GG and between now and January the separatist coalition falls apart.
 

Ron in Regina

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This may sound dumb, and maybe I'm just uninformed, but there are Two Lonely
Independent MP's in Parliament from this 40th General Election. Have they been
invited to the Coalition Party? Just curious, but has anyone heard about them???
 

Socrates the Greek

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I think Harper will get a reprieve from the GG and between now and January the separatist coalition falls apart.

Kreskin good evening to you,
pay close attention here you are about to go Mme...
Are you aware Kreskin that Harper by vowing not to do business with THE SEPARATISTS in Quebec, do you realize how much damage that did for the Cons in Quebec?
Do you know why Kreskin? Well, Harper was just exposed by Jell Duceppe that back in the late 90s Harper approached the Block and is on record asking the Block for a coalition to over through the Liberals......Wow just imagine how confirming is that, Harper is a hypocrite, not only Quebecor’s will boot the Cons out from Quebec like a bunch of snivelling vindictive losers.... In the eyes of the Quebeckers after that revelation today by Jell Duceppe Harper is a..... Trader.
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Kreskin

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Losing support in Quebec is hardly a news item. The rest of Canada means nothing in Quebec. Never has, never will. Time we got use to it and stopped worrying about what might appease them. The appeasement has cost the rest of us too much already.
 

JLM

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Nov 27, 2008
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Losing support in Quebec is hardly a news item. The rest of Canada means nothing in Quebec. Never has, never will. Time we got use to it and stopped worrying about what might appease them. The appeasement has cost the rest of us too much already.

My brother has lived for 30 years in an English speaking community on the west side of Montreal and there is a large population in Quebec that is not like the rest of them and they don't buy this Bloc b.s. at all. A good 30%-40% of the population of Montreal is English speaking & just like normal human beings.
 

Adriatik

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Oct 31, 2008
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My brother has lived for 30 years in an English speaking community on the west side of Montreal and there is a large population in Quebec that is not like the rest of them and they don't buy this Bloc b.s. at all. A good 30%-40% of the population of Montreal is English speaking & just like normal human beings.


What are you saying? French Quebecers are not normal human beings?? What kind of imbecile attitude is that? I'm sorry but you are clearly an idiot. You clearly have no logic. Quebecers who vote for the Bloc are in their every right to having representation in Ottawa. Quebecers pay the same federal income taxes as everyone else.

What do you think the Conservative party has become? A "West Bloc" party that only cares about the west. To deny it would be ignorant.

There are currenlty 163 MPs in parliament that have a say and their say is that Harper has to go. You have to respect that these 163 MPs were duly elected by Canadians of all regions, the Maritimes, Newfoundland, Quebec, Ontario, The Prairies, BC and the Territories. Belive it or not, even in Alberta there is an NDP MP that was elected.. Now face the facts, The coalition has support from 163 elected MPs from the 10 provinces and 2 territories. Also face that your leader is dividing the country deliberately simply to cling onto power.

This non-sense has to stop. It's OVER... Accept defeat, you Conservatives are only further embarrasing yourselves
 

CBC News

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**OPEN at 7 p.m. ET** : Prime Minister's address

The prime minister will address the country starting at 7 p.m. ET to rally support to prevent a Liberal-NDP coalition from taking power.

Do you think the political speeches will influence the course of the next two weeks? Share your thoughts.

**OPEN at 7 p.m. ET**



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JLM

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"What are you saying? French Quebecers are not normal human beings?? What kind of imbecile attitude is that? I'm sorry but you are clearly an idiot. You clearly have no logic. Quebecers who vote for the Bloc are in their every right to having representation in Ottawa. Quebecers pay the same federal income taxes as everyone else. "- NO those are your words.
"you Conservatives are only further embarrasing yourselves "
Where did I say I was Conservative?
At the end of my message I meant to add a smiley and forgot.
 

Inteligento

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The law is the law and all the speeches and titter tatter will not change that.

Only if they serve to influence decent within the coalition will they be effective.

What we need is some changes to the democratic process. I suggest that candidates that receive votes below the volume of a candidate that is first past the post with less than 50% plus 1 be allowed to endorse a candidate (within the same riding of course) and give them their votes to ensure a representative has a clear majority.
 

Kreskin

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By the way, where are the public opinion polls on this? When the US campaign was on they'd provide a poll about four minutes after Obama picked his nose.
 

scratch

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You know Kreskin that's a good question.

About a three minute walk from where I live is a convenience store and just as you walk in is the newspaper rack.
Yesterday afternoon I was looking at the headlines and front pages of The Montreal Gazette, The Ottawa Citizen, La Presse, The Globe and Mail, The Ottawa Sun and the Toronto Sun and there wasn't an opinion poll to be found anywhere.
Are we not in a crisis here, yet no-one seems to care about public opinion?

Makes you wonder.

regards,
scratch
 

Colpy

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You know Kreskin that's a good question.

About a three minute walk from where I live is a convenience store and just as you walk in is the newspaper rack.
Yesterday afternoon I was looking at the headlines and front pages of The Montreal Gazette, The Ottawa Citizen, La Presse, The Globe and Mail, The Ottawa Sun and the Toronto Sun and there wasn't an opinion poll to be found anywhere.
Are we not in a crisis here, yet no-one seems to care about public opinion?

Makes you wonder.

regards,
scratch

Only one opinion poll counts.....

An election.

Let's have one.