“Wokeness” in Canada and elsewhere…

[Serryah]

I don't recall hearing the word "woke" in this context until just a few years ago, and that was in a negative context, somebody using it to deride somebody else's views as being soft-headed whining pinko etc. Two things always come to mind when I think about this stuff. First is that there appears to be an idea floating around that people have a right not to be offended, which is nonsense, the only way never to give offense is to never say anything at all, so that one's not flying. No doubt there are people who'd take silence as offensive too, believing you should say something in support of them. That one's going nowhere too. Second, not all opinions are legitimate. There appear to me to be three kinds of opinion: informed opinion, uninformed opinion, and lunatic opinion. Somehow the idea's got around that they're all equally legitimate and deserve to be taken seriously. That's also obvious nonsense, only the first needs to be taken seriously, the others deserve no attention at all. It's not always easy to spot the uninformed and lunatic opinions, but usually people give themselves away eventually.

Same kind of discussions happen around questions like "How many genders are there?" You can't have a sensible conversation about that until you know what the questioner thinks gender means, and that's such a fluid and variable thing it's often hard to have a conversation even when you *do* know that. It might be a lunatic opinion, for instance. Political correctness is another such idea, a subject rife with uninformed and lunatic opinions about the right not to be offended. Nobody has a right not to be offended.

"Woke is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination".[1][2] Beginning in the 2010s, it came to encompass a broader awareness of social inequalities such as sexism. Woke has also been used as shorthand for some ideas of the American Left involving identity politics and social justice, such as white privilege and slavery reparations for African Americans.[3][4][5]

The phrase stay woke has been present in AAVE since the 1930s. In some contexts, it referred to an awareness of social and political issues affecting African Americans. The phrase was uttered in recordings from the mid-20th century by Lead Belly and, post-millennium, by Erykah Badu.

The term woke gained further popularity in the 2010s. Over time, it became increasingly connected to matters beyond race such as gender and other marginalized identities. During the 2014 Ferguson protests, the phrase was popularized by Black Lives Matter (BLM) activists seeking to raise awareness about police shootings of African Americans. After the term was used on Black Twitter, woke was increasingly used by white people, who often used it to signal their support for BLM; some commentators criticized this usage as cultural appropriation. The term became popular with millennials and members of Generation Z. As its use spread internationally, woke was added to the Oxford English Dictionary in 2017.

By 2020, many on the political right and some in the center in several Western countries began sarcastically using the term as a pejorative for various leftist and progressive movements and ideologies they perceived as overzealous, performative, or insincere. In turn, some commentators came to consider woke an offensive term that disparages persons who promote progressive ideas involving identity and race. Since then, derivative terms such as woke-washing and woke capitalism were coined to describe the conduct of persons or entities who signal support for progressive causes rather than working toward genuine change."

Woke - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

You mean like White slavery in America?

No such thing, but thanks for playing.

 

[pgs]

No such thing, but thanks for playing.

Really . Did your TRIBE not take slaves and children ?

 

[petros]

Really . Did your TRIBE not take slaves and children ?

My tribe was taken as slaves and invaded to the point the only survivors were those who hid in the highlands.

https://www.encyclopediaofukraine.com/display.asp?linkpath=pages%5CB%5CO%5CBoikos.htm

Not Ukrainian but Rusyn.

 

[Ron in Regina]

 

[Ron in Regina]

Here’s a different one (I think) with a different spin:

An activist University of British Columbia professor is under fire for claiming young children should be exposed to adult genitals — to prepare them for seeing naked trans people.

Journalism professor Katja Thieme made the comments on social media.

The comments were an apparent shot at swimmer Riley Gaines who has been at the forefront of the battle against trans athletes in general and controversial rival Lia Thomas in particular.

The professor took umbrage with a video Gaines appeared in.

In her response, the academic sniffed: “Hey, want to know one of my all-time excellent parenting ideas? Let. Little. Children. See. Penises. And. Vulvas. Of. Various. Ages. And. Sizes. In. A. Casual. Normalized. Totally. Safe. Way.”

She added: “The world will thank you for it. And so will those children when they grow up.”

Gaines has been at the forefront in the fight against including trans athletes in women’s sports.

The University of Pennsylvania’s Thomas had raced for the Ivy League’s school’s men’s team until 2019 when she moved to the women’s swim team.

Gaines noted: “I felt like I was going into the race with my hands tied behind my back.”

Not good enough for the academic, who slammed Gaines as a transphobe.

“Gaines gets tearful about the emotional effect it had on her that Thomas was holding the trophy which she had also won,” Thieme said in the July Twitter thread.

“That’s just whiny. What a sore not-even-loser.”

And Thieme doesn’t like it — not one bit — that some women feel uncomfortable sharing a change room with a biological male. That, she said, triggers “anti-trans activism”

“Teenage girl on the swim team sees or claims to have seen a trans person in the nude in the women’s changeroom. Her anti-trans parent or parents kick into high gear,” the academic wrote.

“They lean on coaches: Tell trans folk to change elsewhere. Coach says, no, we can’t, that’s discriminatory.

“They lean on the club admin: Send a warning message to all members that trans folk are using these facilities. Admin says, hell no, that’s crazy and would be very wrong.

“They contact Riley Gaines or other transphobes of their choice, they organize protests, events, meetings, hearings, and whatnot.”

Thieme has now locked down her Twitter profile.

No wonder. One person responding on Twitter called her the “definition of grooming”

UBC prof's top parenting tip: Let kids see penises, private parts — Toronto Sun

An activist University of British Columbia professor is under fire for claiming young children should be exposed to adult genitals — to prepare them for seeing naked trans people. Journalism professor Katja Thieme made the comments on social media. The comments were an apparent shot at swimmer...

apple.news

 

[Serryah]

Here’s a different one (I think) with a different spin:

An activist University of British Columbia professor is under fire for claiming young children should be exposed to adult genitals — to prepare them for seeing naked trans people.

Journalism professor Katja Thieme made the comments on social media.
View attachment 18877
The comments were an apparent shot at swimmer Riley Gaines who has been at the forefront of the battle against trans athletes in general and controversial rival Lia Thomas in particular.

The professor took umbrage with a video Gaines appeared in.

In her response, the academic sniffed: “Hey, want to know one of my all-time excellent parenting ideas? Let. Little. Children. See. Penises. And. Vulvas. Of. Various. Ages. And. Sizes. In. A. Casual. Normalized. Totally. Safe. Way.”
View attachment 18876
She added: “The world will thank you for it. And so will those children when they grow up.”

Gaines has been at the forefront in the fight against including trans athletes in women’s sports.

The University of Pennsylvania’s Thomas had raced for the Ivy League’s school’s men’s team until 2019 when she moved to the women’s swim team.

Gaines noted: “I felt like I was going into the race with my hands tied behind my back.”

Not good enough for the academic, who slammed Gaines as a transphobe.

“Gaines gets tearful about the emotional effect it had on her that Thomas was holding the trophy which she had also won,” Thieme said in the July Twitter thread.
View attachment 18878
“That’s just whiny. What a sore not-even-loser.”

And Thieme doesn’t like it — not one bit — that some women feel uncomfortable sharing a change room with a biological male. That, she said, triggers “anti-trans activism”

“Teenage girl on the swim team sees or claims to have seen a trans person in the nude in the women’s changeroom. Her anti-trans parent or parents kick into high gear,” the academic wrote.

“They lean on coaches: Tell trans folk to change elsewhere. Coach says, no, we can’t, that’s discriminatory.

“They lean on the club admin: Send a warning message to all members that trans folk are using these facilities. Admin says, hell no, that’s crazy and would be very wrong.

“They contact Riley Gaines or other transphobes of their choice, they organize protests, events, meetings, hearings, and whatnot.”

Thieme has now locked down her Twitter profile.

No wonder. One person responding on Twitter called her the “definition of grooming”

UBC prof's top parenting tip: Let kids see penises, private parts — Toronto Sun

An activist University of British Columbia professor is under fire for claiming young children should be exposed to adult genitals — to prepare them for seeing naked trans people. Journalism professor Katja Thieme made the comments on social media. The comments were an apparent shot at swimmer...

apple.news

Um... no.

And I don't know of any person - trans or otherwise - who would agree with this.

Of course when I was a kid, bathing with parents was still 'okay', but now it's a huge nono. Still, this prof is effin' nuts to suggest this. It's hard enough to get sex ed for kids, FFS...

As a side note, Lia Thomas isn't even swimming anymore; this snowflake needs to get over her obsession with Lia.

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

If woke needed a definition, this is it.

 

[Ron in Regina]

If woke needed a definition, this is it.

I was using it as an example to debate (as opposed to a definition) on this topic. Here is a different one as an example:

Residents living on John A. Macdonald Road got an opportunity to voice their concerns about the street's upcoming name change Tuesday.

A handful of residents attended the city's naming committee to tell councillors they felt blindsided by how the new name of miyo-wâhkôhtowin Road (meaning "good relationships" in Cree) was selected and communicated to residents.

"Most residents present desire to be included in the creation of the new name -- (we) wanted a choice," resident Charlotte Rode said to the committee.

"Consequently, the new name meaning 'good relations' has not prompted a good relationship with the residents of the road."

Council began its first-ever road renaming when it unanimously approved a name change in June 2021 when suspected unmarked grave sites were being discovered at former residential schools across the country. Macdonald was Canada's first Prime Minister and is regarded as a key architect in the residential school system.

The city spent the last two years consulting with Indigenous leaders, residential school survivors, elders and knowledge keepers to come up with the proposed name and broke the news to residents last week during a meeting at wâhkôhtowin School.

Residents were informed of the meeting a week prior with a letter left in their mailboxes.

"It's a shame you bypassed all of us residents in the renaming until the last hour," longtime resident Candice Luther said.

Luther said she was not in favour of renaming the street Reconciliation Road, like Saskatoon Tribal Council Chief Mark Arcand suggested in 2021 when a renaming was agreed upon. Luther said that name would "carry a shame" for future people living on the street.

Luther claims she was told "we had to learn English, so you can learn Cree." by a person facilitating the July 26 meeting when she complained many residents would have trouble saying it.

John A. Macdonald Road residents in Saskatoon vent frustrations about street name change process

Residents living on John A. Macdonald Road got an opportunity to voice their concerns about the street's upcoming name change Tuesday.

saskatoon.ctvnews.ca

"We can't pronounce it, it's too long and we can't spell it," Luther said.

Other names offered up during the meeting were Hope Road, Unity Road, Harmony Road and Arcand Road.

But the city's “director of Indigenous initiatives,” Melissa Cote, says an English language name wasn't the best option available.

"It was felt if it was an Indigenous language, it would be more meaningful for the survivors and the Indigenous people that were part of that, and anyone that's been harmed by the name" Cote said.

Cote said aligning wâhkôhtowin School with a similar street name was a driving force after the school was renamed from Confederation Park School in 2020.

"Residential schools resulted in a breakdown of communities," she said. "And good relationships will bring us together."

City administration says residents won't have to pay anything out of pocket for the renaming. Even changing land titles over will be taken care of by the city.

Some were worried about how long the name is, to which Ward 7 Coun. Mairin Loewen had an easy response.

"This is a good, meaningful name, and frankly only one letter longer than the existing name," she said.

Fabian Genaille endorsed the name, and says he would like to see more things in the city renamed to honour the area's Indigenous past like his Saulteaux roots.

"A lot of people here may live on the street and like the name, but at the same time, it offends a lot of people," he said.

Even though nearly everyone at the meeting was supportive of a name change and referenced the pain Macdonald's name can cause, they didn't like the way the city went about it and they wanted a decision to be held off until more consultation was done with the roughly 150 homes on the street.

However, it's a request that's unlikely to be granted. Council is expected to formally approve the name change at its Sept. 27 meeting, three days before the National Day for Truth and Reconciliation.

 

[petros]

I just woke. Where's my eye drops.

 

[Ron in Regina]

….Or this, as an example to debate. It was reported several weeks ago that parents and staff are pressuring the Toronto District School Board to stop allowing parents to opt their children out of drag queen events. The argument put forward is no longer that it should be permissible to have drag queen shows in schools, but that parents should be “barred” from opting out their own children if they are uncomfortable with such performances.

Drag queen story hour — in which performers embody the most pernicious stereotypical conceptualization of feminine dress, makeup and behaviour while reading stories to children — is a ritual that’s become common at libraries and other public venues. Most drag story hours are not sexually explicit, though there have been incidents where sexualized behaviour has occurred.

Proponents of drag storytime suggest it captures the gender fluidity of childhood and gives kids glamorous, positive and unabashedly queer role models. That might be convincing, except that drag queens are not ideal queer role models, in any respect. In fact, they are quite the opposite. Nevertheless, some are now pushing to make such events “mandatory” in the name of safeguarding gender identity and expression.

Julia Malott: Drag queen story hour is not the way to teach children about diversity — National Post

Presenting kids with caricatures that embody regressive exaggerations of femininity does them a disservice

apple.news

Most parents and educators support teaching children about, and immersing them in, diversity, including cultural diversity, racial diversity and diverse socioeconomic realities. Children will encounter these forms of human diversity in our society and a basic understanding of each lays an important foundation for them. A similar argument could be made for gender diversity education, when presented in an age-appropriate fashion.

Barring parents from opting out of conversations about gender identity in the classroom, however, is a matter that should not be taken lightly. Overstepping parental consent is hardly justifiable, even when the objective is to foster inclusivity and acceptance. Moreover, mandating drag queen story hour is absurd, because being a drag queen is not a gender identity and does nothing to foster inclusive environments.

Anyway, the rest of the above link.

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

I was using it as an example to debate (as opposed to a definition) on this topic. Here is a different one as an example:

Residents living on John A. Macdonald Road got an opportunity to voice their concerns about the street's upcoming name change Tuesday.

A handful of residents attended the city's naming committee to tell councillors they felt blindsided by how the new name of miyo-wâhkôhtowin Road (meaning "good relationships" in Cree) was selected and communicated to residents.

"Most residents present desire to be included in the creation of the new name -- (we) wanted a choice," resident Charlotte Rode said to the committee.

"Consequently, the new name meaning 'good relations' has not prompted a good relationship with the residents of the road."

Council began its first-ever road renaming when it unanimously approved a name change in June 2021 when suspected unmarked grave sites were being discovered at former residential schools across the country. Macdonald was Canada's first Prime Minister and is regarded as a key architect in the residential school system.

The city spent the last two years consulting with Indigenous leaders, residential school survivors, elders and knowledge keepers to come up with the proposed name and broke the news to residents last week during a meeting at wâhkôhtowin School.

Residents were informed of the meeting a week prior with a letter left in their mailboxes.

"It's a shame you bypassed all of us residents in the renaming until the last hour," longtime resident Candice Luther said.

Luther said she was not in favour of renaming the street Reconciliation Road, like Saskatoon Tribal Council Chief Mark Arcand suggested in 2021 when a renaming was agreed upon. Luther said that name would "carry a shame" for future people living on the street.

Luther claims she was told "we had to learn English, so you can learn Cree." by a person facilitating the July 26 meeting when she complained many residents would have trouble saying it.

John A. Macdonald Road residents in Saskatoon vent frustrations about street name change process

Residents living on John A. Macdonald Road got an opportunity to voice their concerns about the street's upcoming name change Tuesday.

saskatoon.ctvnews.ca

"We can't pronounce it, it's too long and we can't spell it," Luther said.

Other names offered up during the meeting were Hope Road, Unity Road, Harmony Road and Arcand Road.

But the city's “director of Indigenous initiatives,” Melissa Cote, says an English language name wasn't the best option available.

"It was felt if it was an Indigenous language, it would be more meaningful for the survivors and the Indigenous people that were part of that, and anyone that's been harmed by the name" Cote said.

Cote said aligning wâhkôhtowin School with a similar street name was a driving force after the school was renamed from Confederation Park School in 2020.

"Residential schools resulted in a breakdown of communities," she said. "And good relationships will bring us together."

City administration says residents won't have to pay anything out of pocket for the renaming. Even changing land titles over will be taken care of by the city.

Some were worried about how long the name is, to which Ward 7 Coun. Mairin Loewen had an easy response.

"This is a good, meaningful name, and frankly only one letter longer than the existing name," she said.

Fabian Genaille endorsed the name, and says he would like to see more things in the city renamed to honour the area's Indigenous past like his Saulteaux roots.

"A lot of people here may live on the street and like the name, but at the same time, it offends a lot of people," he said.

Even though nearly everyone at the meeting was supportive of a name change and referenced the pain Macdonald's name can cause, they didn't like the way the city went about it and they wanted a decision to be held off until more consultation was done with the roughly 150 homes on the street.

However, it's a request that's unlikely to be granted. Council is expected to formally approve the name change at its Sept. 27 meeting, three days before the National Day for Truth and Reconciliation.

More wokeness. Definition by example.

I suspect John A MacDonald road would still be acceptable to the post office as no federal law has passed changing the postal address.

 

[petros]

In my day the library played films for kids loaded with healthy violence.

 

[Dixie Cup]

Here’s a different one (I think) with a different spin:

An activist University of British Columbia professor is under fire for claiming young children should be exposed to adult genitals — to prepare them for seeing naked trans people.

Journalism professor Katja Thieme made the comments on social media.
View attachment 18877
The comments were an apparent shot at swimmer Riley Gaines who has been at the forefront of the battle against trans athletes in general and controversial rival Lia Thomas in particular.

The professor took umbrage with a video Gaines appeared in.

In her response, the academic sniffed: “Hey, want to know one of my all-time excellent parenting ideas? Let. Little. Children. See. Penises. And. Vulvas. Of. Various. Ages. And. Sizes. In. A. Casual. Normalized. Totally. Safe. Way.”
View attachment 18876
She added: “The world will thank you for it. And so will those children when they grow up.”

Gaines has been at the forefront in the fight against including trans athletes in women’s sports.

The University of Pennsylvania’s Thomas had raced for the Ivy League’s school’s men’s team until 2019 when she moved to the women’s swim team.

Gaines noted: “I felt like I was going into the race with my hands tied behind my back.”

Not good enough for the academic, who slammed Gaines as a transphobe.

“Gaines gets tearful about the emotional effect it had on her that Thomas was holding the trophy which she had also won,” Thieme said in the July Twitter thread.
View attachment 18878
“That’s just whiny. What a sore not-even-loser.”

And Thieme doesn’t like it — not one bit — that some women feel uncomfortable sharing a change room with a biological male. That, she said, triggers “anti-trans activism”

“Teenage girl on the swim team sees or claims to have seen a trans person in the nude in the women’s changeroom. Her anti-trans parent or parents kick into high gear,” the academic wrote.

“They lean on coaches: Tell trans folk to change elsewhere. Coach says, no, we can’t, that’s discriminatory.

“They lean on the club admin: Send a warning message to all members that trans folk are using these facilities. Admin says, hell no, that’s crazy and would be very wrong.

“They contact Riley Gaines or other transphobes of their choice, they organize protests, events, meetings, hearings, and whatnot.”

Thieme has now locked down her Twitter profile.

No wonder. One person responding on Twitter called her the “definition of grooming”

UBC prof's top parenting tip: Let kids see penises, private parts — Toronto Sun

An activist University of British Columbia professor is under fire for claiming young children should be exposed to adult genitals — to prepare them for seeing naked trans people. Journalism professor Katja Thieme made the comments on social media. The comments were an apparent shot at swimmer...

apple.news

seriously!

 

[pgs]

seriously!

Government funded and protected .

 

[harrylee]

Government funded and protected .

Time for the voters to woke up.

 

[Ron in Regina]

?????????????

 

[petros]

?????????????

Your ESG Score is at risk.

 

[Ron in Regina]

Your ESG Score is at risk.

“I am a Canadian, free to speak without fear, free to worship in my own way, free to stand for what I think right, free to oppose what I believe wrong, or free to choose those who shall govern my country. This heritage of freedom I pledge to uphold for myself and all mankind ” ― John G. Diefenbaker (13th Prime Minister of Canada)

 

[pgs]

“I am a Canadian, free to speak without fear, free to worship in my own way, free to stand for what I think right, free to oppose what I believe wrong, or free to choose those who shall govern my country. This heritage of freedom I pledge to uphold for myself and all mankind ” ― John G. Diefenbaker (13th Prime Minister of Canada)

Honk honk .