Without a Safety Net: What kind of country do Canadians want?

[JLM]

Well, some of it for sure, Cliffy!

 

[BaalsTears]

Canada wants to be Mexico. Canadians will get their wish.

 

[Cannuck]

Blown all you AISH yet?

Apparently I know SFA.

What more can one say?

 

[Nuggler]

You putting on a spelling seminar, Walter?

Good thing if he is. Someone should

Bang on, Cliffy.:-(

 

[DaSleeper]

What I see is a lot of people paying lip service to the idea.....as long as it comes out of the other person's pocket........

 

[JLM]

Good thing if he is. Someone should



:-(

I'm inclined to agree, when I was in school it was drummed into us that correct spelling is very important and some even went as far as to say spelling defined us, of course one could also argue that as times change priorities change, but good spelling does contribute to improved communication I guess.

What I see is a lot of people paying lip service to the idea.....as long as it comes out of the other person's pocket........

Nothing new here, Das, it's an old N.D.P. philosophy!

 

[taxslave]

Canada wants to be Mexico. Canadians will get their wish.

No snow? I could live with that.

I'm inclined to agree, when I was in school it was drummed into us that correct spelling is very important and some even went as far as to say spelling defined us, of course one could also argue that as times change priorities change, but good spelling does contribute to improved communication I guess.




Nothing new here, Das, it's an old N.D.P. philosophy!

DEfine correct spelling. We had a mix of english and US textbooks and there are many words that are spelt differently. WHo is right? Maybe even more important is should not language evolve? Like instead of night, which really requites a mouth full of marbles to pronounce what is wrong with nite?

 

[Walter]

No snow? I could live with that.



DEfine correct spelling. We had a mix of english and US textbooks and there are many words that are spelt differently. WHo is right? Maybe even more important is should not language evolve? Like instead of night, which really requites a mouth full of marbles to pronounce what is wrong with nite?

Lots o' snow in Mexico. Depends where you are.

 

[JLM]

No snow? I could live with that.



DEfine correct spelling. We had a mix of english and US textbooks and there are many words that are spelt differently. WHo is right? Maybe even more important is should not language evolve? Like instead of night, which really requites a mouth full of marbles to pronounce what is wrong with nite?

I have to agree. English is one of the most screwed up languages with more exceptions than rules..............."I before e except after c except when sounding like "ay" as in neighbour and weigh".

Lots o' snow in Mexico. Depends where you are.

Yep, I would expect Mexico City at over 7000' gets its share from time to time!

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

Call me cynical but I don't believe this. There are lowlife scum which I cannot value as human beings. For example, Paul Bernardo and his lovely ex-wife. I don't think that is necessarly wrong.

 

[Twila]

I have to agree. English is one of the most screwed up languages with more exceptions than rules..............."I before e except after c except when sounding like "ay" as in neighbour and weigh".

here's the up to date version of the I before E rule:

I before e except when you run a feisty heist on a weird beige foreign neighbour.

That should surely help to clear up any confusion surrounding the i before e rule...right?

 

[JLM]

here's the up to date version of the I before E rule:

I before e except when you run a feisty heist on a weird beige foreign neighbour.

That should surely help to clear up any confusion surrounding the i before e rule...right?

You're a card, Twila......................I love ya

 

[taxslave]

Lots o' snow in Mexico. Depends where you are.

Mexico extends beyond sight of the ocean?

 

[Twila]

here's the up to date version of the I before E rule:

I before e except when you run a feisty heist on a weird beige foreign neighbour.

That should surely help to clear up any confusion surrounding the i before e rule...right?

I should have given credit to Mr. Simon Taylor, who is the one who ACTUALLY came up with this wording.

 

[Cannuck]

here's the up to date version of the I before E rule:

I before e except when you run a feisty heist on a weird beige foreign neighbour.

That should surely help to clear up any confusion surrounding the i before e rule...right?

I distinctly remember my grade 3 teacher saying that no words in the English language end in the C. She must not have been a fan of magic or music and was probably never on a picnic. I don't recall if she was able to teach me much it arithmetic that year

 

[Sal]

What it amounts to is that society deems that folks accept personal responsibility for the choices that are made... It surprises me that you equate society's distaste in assuming the consequences of what amounts to an individual responsibility as punishment

No, no that's not at all what it amounts to. This is not about society's distaste in assuming anything, this is about a group of people within society that have zero understanding of or tolerance for mistakes made by others or those weaker than themselves.

Their attitude is live and let die. They would like to see, no safety nets, no abortion, no health care.

When a hand up is given it in no way discounts individual responsibility, it merely assists with that responsibility until such a time as the responsibility is completely assumed.

In some cases that will never happen. Average people that give birth to severally handicapped or disabled will never be able to fully assume the financial responsibility for the care of those children. That is just one example of where a compassionate and enlightened society, step in and help.

A society may be judged by how they treat their weakest members.

Or we could treat each other like they do in the second or third world. How will we have it? It's up to us. In the end we do not take our money with us but we do take our spirit such as it has become.

 

[taxslave]

I distinctly remember my grade 3 teacher saying that no words in the English language end in the C. She must not have been a fan of magic or music and was probably never on a picnic. I don't recall if she was able to teach me much it arithmetic that year

I once had a teacher like that. When we called BS she said those words were not english but borrowed from some other language.

 

[captain morgan]

No, no that's not at all what it amounts to. This is not about society's distaste in assuming anything, this is about a group of people within society that have zero understanding of or tolerance for mistakes made by others or those weaker than themselves.

Yes Sal, that is what it amounts to. The word distaste is the PC expression that the general public is no longer as supportive of providing carte blanche, unlimited care without having an understanding of what is going on.

PS - Everyone, without exception, is weaker than someone else... If you want top rely on cliche statements, expect them to be challenged

Their attitude is live and let die. They would like to see, no safety nets, no abortion, no health care.

Exactly who are these people. I for one have never, ever heard of people/groups wishing for no social safety nets or healthcare (universal)... The abortion issue notwithstanding

When a hand up is given it in no way discounts individual responsibility, it merely assists with that responsibility until such a time as the responsibility is completely assumed.

That assistance ceases to be a hand-up when it morphs into a full-on dependency scenario... Hell, it's not even a hand-out any longer as some people use it as the sole means of subsistence.

If that is what is needed, then fine, but the expectation is that this person should be expected to contribute in some fashion... Whenever that has been suggested (workfare vs welfare), all the bleeding hearts demand that their rights have been violated.

Read the writing on the wall Sal, the former carte blanche arrangement is slowly being constricted as each year passes and it has everything to do with available funds.... The more folks that expect to lean on that system will simply result in the same amount of money being spent on far more people.... Fewer dollars per person

In some cases that will never happen. Average people that give birth to severally handicapped or disabled will never be able to fully assume the financial responsibility for the care of those children. That is just one example of where a compassionate and enlightened society, step in and help.

You know damn well that the vast majority of those receiving social assistance are not in a position of supporting a severely disabled or handicapped individual

A society may be judged by how they treat their weakest members.

All members within a society have an expectation to contribute... You can't have an entire society of weakest members and a handful of others

Or we could treat each other like they do in the second or third world. How will we have it? It's up to us. In the end we do not take our money with us but we do take our spirit such as it has become.

Interesting analogy... How does those people in the 3rd world ever manage to live without the gubmint providing for their every need?... Might it have something to do with resiliency and understanding that they have a personal responsibility for their choices?

 

[darkbeaver]

Of course I'm one hundred and twenty-seven percent in favour of mandated self reliance. Why should the taxpayer (productee) be burdened with dragging the listless ignorant rabble along in its wake? What we need is sterilization to make sure this dosn't happen in the next generation. I'm firmly forsquare behind the proposed carbon means test.

 

[JLM]

No, no that's not at all what it amounts to. This is not about society's distaste in assuming anything, this is about a group of people within society that have zero understanding of or tolerance for mistakes made by others or those weaker than themselves.

Their attitude is live and let die. They would like to see, no safety nets, no abortion, no health care.

When a hand up is given it in no way discounts individual responsibility, it merely assists with that responsibility until such a time as the responsibility is completely assumed.

In some cases that will never happen. Average people that give birth to severally handicapped or disabled will never be able to fully assume the financial responsibility for the care of those children. That is just one example of where a compassionate and enlightened society, step in and help.

A society may be judged by how they treat their weakest members.

Or we could treat each other like they do in the second or third world. How will we have it? It's up to us. In the end we do not take our money with us but we do take our spirit such as it has become.

Right on Sal!!!! Sometimes when I'm in a charitable mood and hand over a couple of bucks, I think it's a cheap price to pay for not having the problems the recipients have!

Of course I'm one hundred and twenty-seven percent in favour of mandated self reliance. Why should the taxpayer (productee) be burdened with dragging the listless ignorant rabble along in its wake? What we need is sterilization to make sure this dosn't happen in the next generation. I'm firmly forsquare behind the proposed carbon means test.

There are differing opinions about that.