Yeah ... and it's not likely the "old boys' club" is going to make a law similar those for reserve military service or jury duty. Fair representation? There's a "most basics" movement....
Wolf
Wolf
Will the sheep re-elect McLiberals again?
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You talk like something was illegal. Elections are run according to the law of the land. Those laws are not yet changed. If the opposition wins a few large, populous ridings, they can easily have more of the popular vote. This shouldn't be a surprise....It's been happening for years.
Where you really notice it is here in the north where of 109 seats - we have 9 (but we have 90% of the landmass) Southern Ontario laws are enforced here too - and Southern Ontario conditions are expected to work up here.
Wolf
Wolf
Not at all. Simply stating it doesn't make sense to pretty much anyone outside of Toronto. The north as wolf mentioned is a prime example. The Prairies and maritimes too. Just because we've been doing something for years doesn't mean it deserves a look at possible change, nor does it mean that it's fair. Surely a better way to represent all the people can be discussed and maybe if found, implemented.
Didn't I read somewhere that there was going to be a plebiscite attached to the Ontario election about electoral reforms including a proportional vote scheme?
http://www.yourbigdecision.ca/en_ca/default.aspx
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontario_electoral_reform_referendum,_2007
Federal reform would make sense next in my opinion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontario_electoral_reform_referendum,_2007
Federal reform would make sense next in my opinion.
You got that right. I don't buy the argument that it is less democratic at all. I saw two guys debating this last night on some news channel. I'm all for the mixed member proportional system.
It can likely be disheartening to be in a rural area and feel that maybe your vote doesn't count because Toronto and Montreal have already spoken for you. Similar to announcing election results when B.C. could/is still be voting and the remaining votes there are wasted.
Particularly when B.C. always elects the wrong people. I always felt that B.C would be better off if they elected members of the winning party but no....If the Conservatives were elected, B.C. sent Liberals to Ottawa. If the Liberals were elected, we elected Conservatives. Not every time but almost....:roll:
I feel we have enough dead weight with appointed senators at the federal level.....without having appointed members at the provincial level.
First they start with 39 appointed members, 90 elected, that's almost one third of the house.......then should an office become vacant, won't it be simpler to just appoint someone instead of going to the trouble of a By-election??
Naah! I'm definitely voting against that:angry3:
First they start with 39 appointed members, 90 elected, that's almost one third of the house.......then should an office become vacant, won't it be simpler to just appoint someone instead of going to the trouble of a By-election??
Naah! I'm definitely voting against that:angry3:
From what I heard, all parties said if the system goes through, that those positions would have to be won in the same way that local ridings select their candidates.
Still elected by party members, still campaigning to win those votes, and you still get to elect your local member. Only difference is you could actually end up with two MPP's from one area, one being the local schmuck, the other making up the difference in popular vote province wide.
Still elected by party members, still campaigning to win those votes, and you still get to elect your local member. Only difference is you could actually end up with two MPP's from one area, one being the local schmuck, the other making up the difference in popular vote province wide.
I'm not a party fanatic........I vote for the local schmuck......He's the one representing the district and he's the one with the most to lose if he doesn't do it right;-)
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Informal, sure, but people still took the time to vote. There's still hope Anthony Perkins will get the boot. :lol:
Here's good link:
http://hubbers.ca/blog/ten-lies-about-mmp/
This should mitigate some concerns about List Members:
And note that it the old boys club who are most against electoral reform.
http://hubbers.ca/blog/ten-lies-about-mmp/
This should mitigate some concerns about List Members:
And note that it the old boys club who are most against electoral reform.
Sheep are dumber than a bag of rocks. :lol:
McGuilty is a smirking liar and tax thief.
Tory is unproven as a liar as yet. Howie can play hockey.
Vote Green, Howie or John. Take your pick.
