Wildrose Leader Says No More Money For Quebec.
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They already have studies that look into this, but an independent board would make the system even more equitable.
The view that I take as an Ontarian, is that even if I got screwed in the past, there's no point in getting bitter or belligerent about it like Albertans do now. It's more important to change the process for the better.
I have no issues against equalization IF it goes to create lasting jobs and post-secondary education leading to self-sustainability for the receiving Province.
Before Ont- Que had the seats - 1 had the money Ontario- the west had money and less seats and no say.
Now they still have less seats a lot more money and little say.
Equalization is broken -
YUP! Going to be interesting,been boring here in Alberta since Ralph left.lol!
I was being a little sarcastic there, but it's to make a point that unelss you're prepared to do something about whatever you're complainging about, then it cannot legitimately be considered part of your party platform but rather simply and expression of your own personal opinion.
The 'system' exists solely as a flowery ideal with no checks and balances in place... There is no real 'system' per se other than bureaucracy that redistributes the monies.
Things were so much more interesting when there was rye whiskey as part of the equation.
Maybe Albertans can take the lead in legislating that drinks must be served at all times when the house is in session.
Equalization is in the constitution. The only choice Alberta has is to separate if they don't like it. They certainly don't get to pick which provinces get equalization funds from Ottawa. And let's be clear, it's not Alberta's money that Quebec receives.
Or renegotiate the Constitution.
But either way, if she's going to complain about it, she should also propsoe a solution. Even if she mrely said she plans to bring up renegotiating the constitution, that would be a plan.
Bear in mind though the Conservatives campaigned on not reopening the Cosntitution... but then again, there was also the fixed term law too I suppose.
One province doesn't get to change the Constitution in a way that affects all the other provinces. It would need to be more than Alberta who wants to change the Constitution, 2/3rds of the Provincial legislatures representing at least 50% of the National population.
Equalization may be in the constitution but we can fix how it is equalized or not. This is just one more part of the constitution that needs to be fixed.
Well you can vote for a party that vows changes to the formula, Harper's government was the last to 'fix' the formula...point is Alberta doesn't get to pick and choose. It's not the Province's money. It's tax money collected by Ottawa.
There's an easier and far more profitable solution to this.... The AB gvt needs to simply collect all of the federal taxes from it's citizens and remit what they believe to be reasonable.. Invoke the Notwithstanding Clause and hang the suit up in the SCC for 10 or 20 years... Even if the SCC rules against the province, the money can be already spent and no longer available.
Kind of a scorched Earth strategy
Notwithstanding Clause
Charter is not the same thing as the Constitution... and as I've told you before the notwithstanding clause only applies to certain sections (Fundamental rights) of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Equalization isn't even in the Charter, it's not a fundamental right either.
Durp. Learn some civics...
Not applicable. :roll:
It's fully applicable.. AB is a Distinct Society and depriving that Distinct Society of the funds required to celebrate and promote said sociaty is a direct contravention of Albertan's rights.
The path from A to B doesn't always take a straight line 2-Packs
The path from A to B doesn't always take a straight line 2-Packs
Delusional. It's taxes paid to Ottawa you dolt. Ottawa could just keep it, and spend it on programs, like DFO, DND, EC, TC, etc.