Wildrose Alliance Party is it a new fad ?

[Kakato]

Quite so. When PC party self destructed under Mulroney, the right wing of the party (blue Tories) formed the Reform party, the moderate wing of the party (Red Tories) formed Bloc Quebecois.

The right and far right tried valiantly to soldier on at the federal level. They even tried changing the name of the party twice, once to Alliance and then to Conservative party. Nothing worked. It is only when they moved away from the extreme, towards the center that they were able to win a minority government.

While right and far right philosophies may play well in Alberta, they do not play well in Ontario and Québec, who really decide who is going to win.

It was mainly seperatists that broke away that formed the reform party in Alberta,it had nothing to do with blue tories.
I dont understand where you get your info from but the old grassroots movement is still alive minus the members that left to form reform.

 

[Walter]

Democracy is a rare concept in AB

What an uninformed thing to say.

 

[Walter]

Sounds like they might do what the Saskatchewan Party did.

 

[Kakato]

Cory Morgan had a lot to do with the reform party getting started.

The Alberta Independence Party, led by Cory Morgan, promoted independence for the province of Alberta either on its own, or in union with the other western provinces. It is now defunct, never having achieved party status. Cory Morgan was certainly a separatist at the time, stating that "It's time to cut off the lifeline [with Canada]" and that "An independent nation looks better to me than what we're looking at right now." Since that time, Morgan has gone back against his own ideals at one time, presently stating that supporting separatism is like "pissing in the wind."

FreeAlberta.com: For An Independent Alberta

 

[Avro]

What an uninformed thing to say.

Now you know what it's like reading your posts.

 

[Avro]

This is how Alberta reacts when their nest egg gets cracked....they freak out.:lol:

Don't worry Alberta, I'm sure the feds will still subsidize your dirty oil extraction like they have been doing for decades.:roll:

 

[Kakato]

This is how Alberta reacts when their nest egg gets cracked....they freak out.:lol:

Don't worry Alberta, I'm sure the feds will still subsidize your dirty oil extraction like they have been doing for decades.:roll:

Dont worry,we'll give back more then we get through transfer payments,someone has to fund those poorer provinces.
Just think of it as a subsidy.;-)

 

[Spade]

What an uninformed thing to say.

Only 41% of Albertans voted in the last provincial election, reflecting a steady decline.
Municipal elections seldom break the 30% range
The Alberta legislature sat, on average less than 40 days per year during the Klein era - lowest in Canada.
Need I go on?
http://pubs.pembina.org/reports/33.Voter Participation.pdf

 

[countryboy]

Only 41% of Albertans voted in the last provincial election, reflecting a steady decline.
Municipal elections seldom break the 30% range
The Alberta legislature sat, on average less than 40 days per year during the Klein era - lowest in Canada.
Need I go on?
http://pubs.pembina.org/reports/33.Voter Participation.pdf

On the other hand, one could interpret the information this way:
1. Majority of Albertans were happy enough with the government to simply not be bothered going to the polls (If it ain't broken, why fix it?)
2. In the Klein era, the MLAs might have been smarter and quicker than those of other provinces, thus requiring less time to sit in the legislature to get things done, and allow more time to be out there with the people (which would lead right back to my point no. 1)

Just offering an alternative way to look at things.

I did live in Alberta for about 5 years - my job took me to all parts of the province on a regular basis - and I was always impressed with the clarity and purpose with which most of the "common people" I knew looked at politics. They tended to look for common ground rather than seek out problems and fight about them. Just a casual observation on my part...

I always thought it was a very "together" province in many different ways.

And their highways and roads were, and probably still are, the best in the country. :lol:

 

[Kakato]

On the other hand, one could interpret the information this way:
1. Majority of Albertans were happy enough with the government to simply not be bothered going to the polls (If it ain't broken, why fix it?)
2. In the Klein era, the MLAs might have been smarter and quicker than those of other provinces, thus requiring less time to sit in the legislature to get things done, and allow more time to be out there with the people (which would lead right back to my point no. 1)

Just offering an alternative way to look at things.

I did live in Alberta for about 5 years - my job took me to all parts of the province on a regular basis - and I was always impressed with the clarity and purpose with which most of the "common people" I knew looked at politics. They tended to look for common ground rather than seek out problems and fight about them. Just a casual observation on my part...

I always thought it was a very "together" province in many different ways.

And their highways and roads were, and probably still are, the best in the country. :lol:

Bang on!

The roads are Gettys legacy,he promised to pave every secondary road in Alberta and allmost did.:lol:
You can sometimes drive for hours without seeing another vehicle in the foothills.

 

[countryboy]

Bang on!

The roads are Gettys legacy,he promised to pave every secondary road in Alberta and allmost did.:lol:
You can sometimes drive for hours without seeing another vehicle in the foothills.

The first time my Dad - who was a foreman with the Manitoba Dept. of Highways for many years - came to Alberta for a visit, he was amazed at the number of paved roads and the quality of them. As we stopped to observe a paving crew at work one day, he continued to tell me how thick the pavement was going on, and how thinly Manitoba would have applied it.

No wonder the citizens of Alberta have voted the way they have in the past...the provincial govt. has done a lot for the "common good" there.

 

[Avro]

Dont worry,we'll give back more then we get through transfer payments,someone has to fund those poorer provinces.
Just think of it as a subsidy.;-)

When?

 

[Avro]

Only 41% of Albertans voted in the last provincial election, reflecting a steady decline.
Municipal elections seldom break the 30% range
The Alberta legislature sat, on average less than 40 days per year during the Klein era - lowest in Canada.
Need I go on?
http://pubs.pembina.org/reports/33.Voter Participation.pdf

:lol: Pwnd again Walt.:lol:

 

[SirJosephPorter]

It was mainly seperatists that broke away that formed the reform party in Alberta,it had nothing to do with blue tories.
I dont understand where you get your info from but the old grassroots movement is still alive minus the members that left to form reform.

That is how Reform may have started. However when PC party disintegrated, most of the blue Tories joined the Reform Party, most of the red Tories formed the Bloc (under the leadership of Bouchard). A few diehards of course remained with the PC party.

But in essence, Reform (and later Alliance) really represented the far right rump of the old PC party.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

No wonder the citizens of Alberta have voted the way they have in the past...the provincial govt. has done a lot for the "common good" there.

I seriously doubt that provincial government has been doing common good decade after decade, for several decades. That is possible only if most Albertans think pretty much alike (which is possible I suppose, but if so is very unlike any other province). If that is not he case, then Albertans come across as sheep, voting for the same party again and again decade after decade, whether they do a good job or a bad job.

I just can’t believe that one party is capable of doing an excellent job, a perfect job decade after decade.

 

[Francis2004]

Only 41% of Albertans voted in the last provincial election, reflecting a steady decline.
Municipal elections seldom break the 30% range
The Alberta legislature sat, on average less than 40 days per year during the Klein era - lowest in Canada.
Need I go on?
http://pubs.pembina.org/reports/33.Voter Participation.pdf

Never mess with Cousin Spade.. :lol:

 

[countryboy]

I seriously doubt that provincial government has been doing common good decade after decade, for several decades. That is possible only if most Albertans think pretty much alike (which is possible I suppose, but if so is very unlike any other province). If that is not he case, then Albertans come across as sheep, voting for the same party again and again decade after decade, whether they do a good job or a bad job.

I just can’t believe that one party is capable of doing an excellent job, a perfect job decade after decade.

Perhaps you've been with the wrong party or ideology for too long!

 

[Francis2004]

Perhaps you've been with the wrong party or ideology for too long!

Nope, I think he is with the correct party..

Notice I did not say "right"..

 

[AnnaG]

I seriously doubt that provincial government has been doing common good decade after decade, for several decades. That is possible only if most Albertans think pretty much alike (which is possible I suppose, but if so is very unlike any other province). If that is not he case, then Albertans come across as sheep, voting for the same party again and again decade after decade, whether they do a good job or a bad job.

I just can’t believe that one party is capable of doing an excellent job, a perfect job decade after decade.

So, Pompas..... (ooops) sir joke, have you voted for any party other than Gliberal "again and again decade after decade, whether they do a good job or a bad job"?

 

[Walter]

The Alberta legislature sat, on average less than 40 days per year during the Klein era - lowest in Canada.

Wish my provincial government was so bad that they didn't charge me any Provincial Sales Tax.